Lower 60mm or not??

1. SaxoKim Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2006 Warwickshire Posts: 225 2002 Silver Furio

   #1 5th February 2007, 21:23

   Right booked in to have car lowered on sunday....
   
   At first i bought 40mm springs but then seen a few pictures and decided it wasn't low enough so then swaped and had 60mm springs.
   I'm in two minds what to go for....
   
   What do you lot think??
   And plus any pics of 40mm and 60mm on vtr alloys.
2. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

   #2 5th February 2007, 21:25

   40mm best.
   
   remeber the lower you go the more wear you will create on the suspension components.
   
   and the shocks if you have not changed them wont be doing the job properly as they are not designed to be running that low all the time.
3. vtcarl Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2006 telford, shropshire Posts: 968 E86 Z4 3.0 si coupe

   #3 5th February 2007, 21:25

   40 is good for handling. 60 good for looks. depends on what you are after.
4. SaxoKim Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2006 Warwickshire Posts: 225 2002 Silver Furio

   #4 5th February 2007, 21:28

   I want it to look good .... however i dont want my car wrecking by bumper scraping etc ... i don't know how low a saxo drops at 60mm
5. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

   #5 5th February 2007, 21:31

   60mm wont look good.
   it looks like a limpet IMO.. daft and chavvy..
   
   40mm is a great set up to have.. if you want it sitting lower but not screwing everything up.
6. vtcarl Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2006 telford, shropshire Posts: 968 E86 Z4 3.0 si coupe

   #6 5th February 2007, 21:33

   i think 50mm will be a good compromise. my vtr is 30mm at the front and 40 at the rear. you can tell if it's next to a standard vtr but if it's not next to anything then you can't tell. try looking at some of the members car pics to get an idea.
7. Colin Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2006 Banbury Posts: 4623 Saxo Rally Car Evo 6

   #7 5th February 2007, 21:35

   Please dont lower 60mm at the front. Its looks chavvy as stated, handles utter crap and whats more its dangerous as the car just slides everywhere!
   
   But if you are going to then buy a full kit and not just springs.
   
   IMO 40mm front about 50mm / 40mm rear looks best and handles awesome, on springs too.
8. SaxoKim Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2006 Warwickshire Posts: 225 2002 Silver Furio

   #8 5th February 2007, 21:35

   You can't get 50mm springs can you??
9. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

   #9 5th February 2007, 21:35

   remeber the springs should also be matched to shocks as i stated before.
   and also the choice shouldnt just be about lowering by X mm.. also the stiffness of the springs etc.. as this will drastically effect day to day driving and comfort.
10. TU-Tuning Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2006 Bristol Posts: 16575 JP4urio, 306 DTurbo SportShed

    #10 5th February 2007, 21:36

    Im havin the same dilemma lol. But ive pretty much decided to go for the compromise, 50mm on an APEX kit.
    
    Dont go 60 on springs though if your goin 60 get a kit or your ride will be uber shit and your shocks wont handle it too well.
11. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #11 5th February 2007, 21:36

    gmc sell 50mm springs irc.. although theyre uber soft from what most people like. as you can get them with the grpN ax dampers, which most ppl sell the springs from,.
12. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #12 5th February 2007, 21:37

    i honestly dont get why ppl think that a SLAMMMMMMMED car is proper cool init....
    
    it looks totally shite and chavvy to hell.
13. Roper Established Member Joined: Feb 2006 Derbyshire Posts: 1815 Black 106 GTi Turbo

    #13 5th February 2007, 21:40

    i will use forum as it suits my question. i've got 17" dezent wheels and want 2 lower my as it looks like a fooo*kin jeep, lol.
    
    as you lads and lasses know alot about saxo's, what would suit it best?
    
    lowered 60mm? all round?
    lowered 40mm? all round?
    
    thanks in advance lee.
    
    p.s. would apreciate pics of 40mm drop and 60mm drops cheers.
14. SaxoKim Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2006 Warwickshire Posts: 225 2002 Silver Furio

    #14 5th February 2007, 21:41

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Itsafastworld85 i honestly dont get why ppl think that a SLAMMMMMMMED car is proper cool init.... it looks totally shite and chavvy to hell.

    
    I'm only asking for opinions
15. vtcarl Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2006 telford, shropshire Posts: 968 E86 Z4 3.0 si coupe

    #15 5th February 2007, 21:41

    im not a fan of cars that are lowered too far and scrapping their undersides on the floor. but each to their own. hope you enjoy it when you get it done and get some pics up.
16. SaxoKim Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2006 Warwickshire Posts: 225 2002 Silver Furio

    #16 5th February 2007, 21:43

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by vtcarl im not a fan of cars that are lowered too far and scrapping their undersides on the floor. but each to their own. hope you enjoy it when you get it done and get some pics up.

    Thankyou
    Think im going to go for 40mm now from the response on here
17. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #17 5th February 2007, 22:10

    grrr site crashed when i was replying.
    
    it wasnt aimed at you, just the slammed warriors who will no doubt add to the thread
18. Cupra-Craig Established Member Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 1979

    #18 5th February 2007, 22:22

    MInes lowered 60mm an handles well an looks good
19. Predator_R32p Super Moderator Joined: Mar 2003 Durham (England) Posts: 37932 1. AX 2. Mk2 Saxo VTR 3. MK4 R32 DBP

    #19 5th February 2007, 22:24

    why dont i photoshop your car
20. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #20 5th February 2007, 22:26

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by GOD106GTI MInes lowered 60mm an handles well an looks good

    would handle better on a proper set up though
21. jk47 Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2007 Northwich Posts: 350 VTR

    #21 5th February 2007, 22:28

    go for 50mm?
    
    40 isnt low enough all the time for some reason and 60 to low.
22. PugDan Established Member Joined: Nov 2006 Leicestershire Posts: 2391 Seat Leon Cupra

    #22 5th February 2007, 22:34

    This is her car...
    
    
    
    
    
    
23. Cupra-Craig Established Member Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 1979

    #23 5th February 2007, 22:34

    well if u can drive wats it matter but yeah i do agree mate but i still think 40mm isnt low enough
24. Predator_R32p Super Moderator Joined: Mar 2003 Durham (England) Posts: 37932 1. AX 2. Mk2 Saxo VTR 3. MK4 R32 DBP

    #24 5th February 2007, 22:43

    this is about 40mm(best for handling people say)
    
    
    
    and this is 60mm (not a huge difference but i like it for looks and mines down this far too)
    
    
    and of course about 50mm will be good for looks and handling, no photoshop sorry, like a say mines down 60mm and i like it that way and have had no problems with handling, also once its done make sure your PAS pipe isnt rubbing on the tracking/steering arm
25. SaxoKim Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2006 Warwickshire Posts: 225 2002 Silver Furio

    #25 5th February 2007, 22:48

    Thanks alot
    
    I'd made my mind up on 40mm untill uve just said that.
    Any pics of yours??
26. Hopcraft Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2006 Northampton Posts: 5957 ED30

    #26 5th February 2007, 22:56

    slammed is the best silly comment to say its chavvy to be honest. urm 50 is a good comprimise, but answering your question, dont go 60 on springs, you either have a full kit or your shocks will wear quickly. so as your going for just springs, id go down 40, but overall, personally i like the slammed look, and 60 looks perfect for saxo's.
27. Predator_R32p Super Moderator Joined: Mar 2003 Durham (England) Posts: 37932 1. AX 2. Mk2 Saxo VTR 3. MK4 R32 DBP

    #27 5th February 2007, 22:56

    old pictures yes, changed a lot since this but still the same height ok
    
    
    (very old picture, horrid tints)
    
    
    
28. Cupra-Craig Established Member Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 1979

    #28 5th February 2007, 22:58

    Well mines on standard shocks an down 60mm an nothing wrong with my shocks. Untill they break why change them??
29. Predator_R32p Super Moderator Joined: Mar 2003 Durham (England) Posts: 37932 1. AX 2. Mk2 Saxo VTR 3. MK4 R32 DBP

    #29 5th February 2007, 22:58

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Hopcraft slammed is the best silly comment to say its chavvy to be honest. urm 50 is a good comprimise, but answering your question, dont go 60 on springs, you either have a full kit or your shocks will wear quickly. so as your going for just springs, id go down 40, but overall, personally i like the slammed look, and 60 looks perfect for saxo's.

    
    mines been down 0n 60mm pi springs for 3 years and have had no problems mate, i know i will have to eventially change them, but when i do im gonna go for some coilovers
30. PugDan Established Member Joined: Nov 2006 Leicestershire Posts: 2391 Seat Leon Cupra

    #30 5th February 2007, 23:05

    It's going to go 40mm I reckon lads.
    
    She has to take parents out sometimes, take mates college and go over some HUGE ass speed humps. She only works part time and replacing stuff isnt what she needs. I think 40mm for the practical side of things on a girl who isnt serious about shows?
31. Predator_R32p Super Moderator Joined: Mar 2003 Durham (England) Posts: 37932 1. AX 2. Mk2 Saxo VTR 3. MK4 R32 DBP

    #31 5th February 2007, 23:07

    true true mate, i think 40 is a good all round height, and puts less strain on components, plus the pas pipe shouldnt rub this far down
32. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #32 5th February 2007, 23:11

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Hopcraft slammed is the best silly comment to say its chavvy to be honest. urm 50 is a good comprimise, but answering your question, dont go 60 on springs, you either have a full kit or your shocks will wear quickly. so as your going for just springs, id go down 40, but overall, personally i like the slammed look, and 60 looks perfect for saxo's.

    not a silly comment.. its a comment from someone who doesnt think a car is cool because you cant get a mobile phone under the front splitter lol!!
    
    craig OMG running std shocks at 60mm lol!!.. i hope your not on gmax shit either or PI...
    
    neither of my cars will sit below 35mm when done lol
33. Predator_R32p Super Moderator Joined: Mar 2003 Durham (England) Posts: 37932 1. AX 2. Mk2 Saxo VTR 3. MK4 R32 DBP

    #33 5th February 2007, 23:13

    why do people think pi are crap like a said 3 years and i love my cars height and handling
34. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #34 5th February 2007, 23:14

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Predator_VTR why do people think pi are crap like a said 3 years and i love my cars height and handling

    erm because they are lol!
    the springs are poor quality, and uber soft.
35. Predator_R32p Super Moderator Joined: Mar 2003 Durham (England) Posts: 37932 1. AX 2. Mk2 Saxo VTR 3. MK4 R32 DBP

    #35 5th February 2007, 23:16

    mine arent lol, am happy with mine so its ok, do the job
36. Hopcraft Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2006 Northampton Posts: 5957 ED30

    #36 6th February 2007, 23:28

    Quote:

    not a silly comment.. its a comment from someone who doesnt think a car is cool because you cant get a mobile phone under the front splitter lol!!

    so that makes it 'chavvy', NO MATE