Unnecessary Weight in the Engine Bay

1. VTS_16v_Boy Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2006 Dartford Kent Posts: 5251 Pug 1007 HDi Sport (daily) / Abarth 500

   #1 7th February 2007, 11:11

   Ok, Bit of a cross section thread this but I feel its in the correct section.
   
   I have already started stripping unnecessary weight from out of the Inside of the car but my question is, Is there any unnecessary weight that can be removed from under the Bonnet in the Engine Bay?
   
   I can only think of the ECU cover and the Centre cover between the two rocker covers can anyone think of anything else? that can be removed which wont affect the running of the car on a daily basis (so I really do need to keep stuff like the washer bottle)
   
   Cheers guys
2. Connor_scotland Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2006 Inverness - Scotland Posts: 8294 4th Impreza of the year - 391bhp - Audi S4 Avant,

   #2 7th February 2007, 11:15

   i take it oyu have stripped our car out and everything like boot liners ect
3. VTS_16v_Boy Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2006 Dartford Kent Posts: 5251 Pug 1007 HDi Sport (daily) / Abarth 500

   #3 7th February 2007, 11:58

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Connor_scotland i take it oyu have stripped our car out and everything like boot liners ect

   Will the back seats are gone alone with the parcel shelf, need to get a smaller driver so I can get the rear covers off the Rear Seat Belt mountings (you know the side bits that support the parcel shelf) once there out Im gona lose the rear quater/door cards.
   
   Just wondered if there was anythin I didnt really need under the bonnet
   
   If not I'll have to go on a diet
4. hesslevtr Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2004 Hull (England) Posts: 18709 1.6 vtr

   #4 7th February 2007, 12:00

   if its going to be a track only car you could remove washer bottle but then you might need it if screen gets mucky
   
   theres the carpet bit under bonnet
   
   cant think of anything else apart from them
5. VTS_16v_Boy Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2006 Dartford Kent Posts: 5251 Pug 1007 HDi Sport (daily) / Abarth 500

   #5 7th February 2007, 12:40

   Nar still gota keep it road legal so washer bottle stays - Bonnet sound deadin went ages ago :-) so I could hear more from my induction kit!
   
   Helps melt the ice off the bonnet quicker too ;-)
6. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

   #6 7th February 2007, 12:42

   relocate battery to rear end of car if your worried about front end weight.
   
   the engine bay doesnt have lots of clutter in it tbh to start with.
7. stevenet15 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 aylesbury buckinghamshire Posts: 4822 Astra Turbo, saxo vts, punto turbo

   #7 7th February 2007, 13:14

   couldnt u put a non power steering rack on the car that way you could remove the pas pump etc... just a thought, personaly i love having pas
8. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

   #8 7th February 2007, 13:17

   non pas rocks.. well it doesnt rock when the thing just doesnt work and your on a pas rack.
   
   remeber though changing the rack over is a cunt.
9. flee123 Frequent Poster Joined: Jul 2006 Consett, County Durham Posts: 673 Wicked Red VTR

   #9 7th February 2007, 13:27

   Move the battery to the boot of your car mate. That will help balance the car out a bit more.
10. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #10 7th February 2007, 13:28

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by flee123 Move the battery to the boot of your car mate. That will help balance the car out a bit more.

    *relocate battery to rear end of car if your worried about front end weight.*
    
    cough cough
11. Predator_R32p Super Moderator Joined: Mar 2003 Durham (England) Posts: 37932 1. AX 2. Mk2 Saxo VTR 3. MK4 R32 DBP

    #11 7th February 2007, 13:35

    take engine out cut holes in floor pan and use it as a flintstone car
12. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #12 7th February 2007, 13:38

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Predator_VTR take engine out cut holes in floor pan and use it as a flintstone car

    
    dont go giving lawrence ideas.
13. Predator_R32p Super Moderator Joined: Mar 2003 Durham (England) Posts: 37932 1. AX 2. Mk2 Saxo VTR 3. MK4 R32 DBP

    #13 7th February 2007, 14:03

    hehehe ill have some dinosaur ribs just put them n the roof
14. VTS_16v_Boy Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2006 Dartford Kent Posts: 5251 Pug 1007 HDi Sport (daily) / Abarth 500

    #14 7th February 2007, 14:51

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Itsafastworld85 relocate battery to rear end of car if your worried about front end weight. the engine bay doesnt have lots of clutter in it tbh to start with.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by flee123 Move the battery to the boot of your car mate. That will help balance the car out a bit more.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Itsafastworld85 *relocate battery to rear end of car if your worried about front end weight.* cough cough

    Ive already done a thread about that, and once the suspension is sorted Im gona get a mate to help me do it all I need is a motorsport Battery Box and some new cable Seen a AX Turbo with the battery in the back and Mexicos used to run with batteries in their boots. So Im already onto that
15. GreenSaxo Saxperience Addict Joined: Dec 2002 Ashford, Kent, United Kingdom (England) Posts: 12835 Cammed Saxo "desire" 16v

    #15 7th February 2007, 15:27

    plastic rocker covers from a c2
    
    remove manifold heat shield
    
    get a lightweight manifold
16. leeds106 Established Member Joined: May 2006 Posts: 1108 16v Citroen AX

    #16 7th February 2007, 15:41

    keep the washer bottle but replace it with a smaller bottle from another car
    
    or just only half fill it all time lol
17. johnny_vts Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 972

    #17 7th February 2007, 15:49

    Keep minimum amount of fuel in the tank...
18. VTS_16v_Boy Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2006 Dartford Kent Posts: 5251 Pug 1007 HDi Sport (daily) / Abarth 500

    #18 7th February 2007, 16:10

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by GreenSaxo plastic rocker covers from a c2 remove manifold heat shield get a lightweight manifold

    Will the covers fit the S head? I thought the C2 had a big vavle-head dosent that make a difference to the rocker covers? or is it a direct fit.
    
    As for the rest Im already got a Janspeed Mild Steel 4-2-1 manifold and full janspeed exhaust so Ive alreay done that.
    
    Stupid quest but Im still gona ask it - will the ECU be ok with out the plastic cover on it? (I know it will just like someone to say - Yes Chris, It will be Fine)
    
    

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by leeds106 keep the washer bottle but replace it with a smaller bottle from another car or just only half fill it all time lol

    hehehehehe now thats just Pikie Power
19. leeds106 Established Member Joined: May 2006 Posts: 1108 16v Citroen AX

    #19 7th February 2007, 16:44

    ecu will be fine without cover not all cars had em standard anyhow
    
    
    ive always wanted to relocate the ecu and battery elsewhere makes the engine much easier to keep clean and makes engine bay look miles better i think
20. stevenet15 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 aylesbury buckinghamshire Posts: 4822 Astra Turbo, saxo vts, punto turbo

    #20 7th February 2007, 16:51

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by VTS_16v_Boy Will the covers fit the S head? I thought the C2 had a big vavle-head dosent that make a difference to the rocker covers? or is it a direct fit.

    yeah there a direct fit but the breather is different
21. Richardson_VTS Established Member Joined: Mar 2006 Northallerton Posts: 1672 Mini Cooper S

    #21 7th February 2007, 18:33

    Relocate the fuseboxes??
    
    Smaller/Lighter Alternator??
22. stebbs1471 Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2004 Derby/Oakham Posts: 241 Saxo VTS mk2 Gold, lowered 50ish,

    #22 7th February 2007, 22:40

    remove the fogs, take the black stuff out from behind the bumper grille bit at the bottom, thats all i can think of
23. fredjudd Established Member Joined: Aug 2006 Salisbury Posts: 1118 Saxo VTR full Janspeed exhuast (4-2

    #23 7th February 2007, 22:49

    Sod the engine bay! Get some perspex windows with a little flap so you hand your timing slips though it.
24. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #24 7th February 2007, 22:51

    is it worth taking your rocker and ecu cover off?
    
    maybe you MIGHT gain 0.00000000000000000000000001 seconds of your 1/4 mile.
25. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

    #25 7th February 2007, 22:58

    cut the supports from the inside of the bonnet so that its just a skin...
    
    An alloy rad will also save some weight
26. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

    #26 7th February 2007, 22:59

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by williamsvts is it worth taking your rocker and ecu cover off? maybe you MIGHT gain 0.00000000000000000000000001 seconds of your 1/4 mile.

    I've got the same benifit by going for a dump before the run..
27. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #27 7th February 2007, 23:01

    you could make your car remote control, then you will save your whole body weight
28. supersav Regular Poster Joined: Mar 2003 walton on thames Posts: 287

    #28 7th February 2007, 23:06

    No reason you can't re-locate the washer bottle to behind the front seats some place, jusy extend the wiring and pipes??
    
    pete
29. stebbs1471 Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2004 Derby/Oakham Posts: 241 Saxo VTS mk2 Gold, lowered 50ish,

    #29 7th February 2007, 23:13

    if we`re getting nitty gritty, get some of those stick on tape number plates,like on kit cars lol
30. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

    #30 7th February 2007, 23:19

    haven't even started - running out of things to lighten ---> chop any long bolts shorter
31. VTS_16v_Boy Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2006 Dartford Kent Posts: 5251 Pug 1007 HDi Sport (daily) / Abarth 500

    #31 8th February 2007, 12:50

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by fredjudd Sod the engine bay! Get some perspex windows with a little flap so you hand your timing slips though it.

    Yep Ican just see it now, tryin to fit McDee take away through flap in perspex window
    
    

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by williamsvts is it worth taking your rocker and ecu cover off? maybe you MIGHT gain 0.00000000000000000000000001 seconds of your 1/4 mile.

    Yer but it'll be 0.00000000000000000000000001 quicker than yours then
    
    

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KamRacing I've got the same benifit by going for a dump before the run..

    didnt need that much information
    
    

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KamRacing haven't even started - running out of things to lighten ---> chop any long bolts shorter

    hehehehe now thats just silly you now Citroen never put long enough bolts in in the first place!
32. Steve. Established Member Joined: Jan 2005 Starcross, Nr Exeter, Devon Posts: 1176 Posi Blue '02 Mk2 1.1

    #32 8th February 2007, 14:09

    you said about a mild steel manifold, problem is - mild steel weighs a bloody tonne! dont know what else can manifold could be made out of, but anything lighter would be best!
    
    Lose you air vents and centre console
33. Davidp Saxperience Addict Joined: May 2006 Posts: 12553

    #33 8th February 2007, 14:11

    Lose your ariel?
34. stevossaxo Established Member Joined: Mar 2005 Surrey United Kingdom (England) Posts: 2299 Citroen Saxo Furio

    #34 8th February 2007, 14:30

    the bonnet weights a ton itself.... lol but everyone knows that
35. stebbs1471 Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2004 Derby/Oakham Posts: 241 Saxo VTS mk2 Gold, lowered 50ish,

    #35 8th February 2007, 15:00

    my gmc 4-1 weighed at least double what my raceland does...
36. Yates Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Pompey/Darlo Posts: 31546 MK1 - 1.1 Animal

    #36 8th February 2007, 15:05

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by VTS_16v_Boy Yer but it'll be 0.00000000000000000000000001 quicker than yours then

    
    It wont, his is cammed yours isnt is it?!
37. VTS_16v_Boy Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2006 Dartford Kent Posts: 5251 Pug 1007 HDi Sport (daily) / Abarth 500

    #37 8th February 2007, 15:06

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by David Lose your ariel?

    Done that
    
    

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by stebbs1471 my gmc 4-1 weighed at least double what my raceland does...

    So is your 4-1 m/s or s/s
38. Davidp Saxperience Addict Joined: May 2006 Posts: 12553

    #38 8th February 2007, 16:18

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by VTS_16v_Boy Done that

    lmao, i was only joking too
    Get a carbon fibre bonnet....
39. stebbs1471 Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2004 Derby/Oakham Posts: 241 Saxo VTS mk2 Gold, lowered 50ish,

    #39 8th February 2007, 16:25

    my gmc was mild steel matey..raceland is stainless
40. Richardson_VTS Established Member Joined: Mar 2006 Northallerton Posts: 1672 Mini Cooper S

    #40 8th February 2007, 17:50

    Get a perspex bonnet made, will be lighter than a feather!
41. ChrisJ Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2005 Widnes United Kingdom (England) Posts: 3517 Saxo furio

    #41 8th February 2007, 18:00

    A lighter bonnet (carbon fibre etc.) will be of huge benefit.