What are the difference between induction kits and air filters?

1. Emma_ZS Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2006 Lincolnshire Posts: 8845 1. Mk2 Posi Furio 2. Fiesta Zetec S

   #1 11th February 2007, 18:08

   Basically as the title says, i don't know anything about them. Any help appreciated. CHEERS (also pics would be helpful of different ones from your motors)
2. Emma_ZS Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2006 Lincolnshire Posts: 8845 1. Mk2 Posi Furio 2. Fiesta Zetec S

   #2 11th February 2007, 18:30

   
3. bullit Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2005 e-hollywood Posts: 17160 toyata hilux

   #3 11th February 2007, 18:36

   an air filter is part of the induction kit. it cleans the air that goes to the engine.
   you can replace the standard filter on its own to fit in the standard airbox or buy a whole new aftermarket system to replace standard airbox.
4. Emma_ZS Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2006 Lincolnshire Posts: 8845 1. Mk2 Posi Furio 2. Fiesta Zetec S

   #4 11th February 2007, 18:37

   cheers but i think i will never fully understand, lol (i am a girl lol)
5. bullit Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2005 e-hollywood Posts: 17160 toyata hilux

   #5 11th February 2007, 18:49

   i wondered if you did.
   right your standard car has got its own induction kit already, its a plastic box that lets in air at the front of car. inside the box theres a filter, the air goes through this to the engine. thats basically an induction kit whether its the standard one or an aftermarket one like bmc or green etc.
   
   what i should have wrote was that theers not a difference as the airfilter belongs to the induction kit. yeah? lol
6. S34MER East Midlands Joined: Jun 2006 Derby Posts: 8305 Skoda Fabia VRS

   #6 11th February 2007, 19:21

   induction kits work on the same principle as air filters, but rather than improving the flow through the filter in a standard system they replace most of that system. The effect is to provide the air with a more direct route from the outside world to the engine. More complex kits include ducting to direct the air down a specific route towards the engine rather than simply letting it float around inside the engine compartment.
7. Emma_ZS Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2006 Lincolnshire Posts: 8845 1. Mk2 Posi Furio 2. Fiesta Zetec S

   #7 11th February 2007, 19:26

   If i post these piccies can you label one or summit to give me an image. Sorry if i am being a pain ! lol
   
   
   
   
8. S34MER East Midlands Joined: Jun 2006 Derby Posts: 8305 Skoda Fabia VRS

   #8 11th February 2007, 19:36

   right ok, the area i have circled in yellow is where your air filter is located, inside that black box!
   
   the pipe i have drawn red lines down the sides of it the cold air feed for the air filter!
   
   
   
   
   now an induction kit replaces the black box (circled in yellow) and attaches to the throttle body like so..... (please note in this pic the cold air feed has also been removed as the induction kit came with one made specifically to fit)
   
   
   
   hope this helps
   
   Oli
9. Emma_ZS Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2006 Lincolnshire Posts: 8845 1. Mk2 Posi Furio 2. Fiesta Zetec S

   #9 11th February 2007, 19:42

   Oh i get it now but there is still one more question . . . . . ready . . . . does an induction kit make your car sound louder?
10. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #10 11th February 2007, 19:42

    certainley does
11. S34MER East Midlands Joined: Jun 2006 Derby Posts: 8305 Skoda Fabia VRS

    #11 11th February 2007, 19:46

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by furiofanatic Oh i get it now but there is still one more question . . . . . ready . . . . does an induction kit make your car sound louder?

    an open induction kit would sound louder yes, but an enclosed, such as the one in the pic i posted doesn't make much sound at all!
12. S34MER East Midlands Joined: Jun 2006 Derby Posts: 8305 Skoda Fabia VRS

    #12 11th February 2007, 19:48

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by furiofanatic i think i will never fully understand

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by furiofanatic Oh i get it now

    I can peform miracles
13. Emma_ZS Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2006 Lincolnshire Posts: 8845 1. Mk2 Posi Furio 2. Fiesta Zetec S

    #13 11th February 2007, 19:49

    Can you post an enclosed and an open one up just so i can see the difference please? that is my final final final request (you have been a massive help)
14. Emma_ZS Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2006 Lincolnshire Posts: 8845 1. Mk2 Posi Furio 2. Fiesta Zetec S

    #14 11th February 2007, 19:49

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by S34MER I can peform miracles

    you certainly can, rep given
15. S34MER East Midlands Joined: Jun 2006 Derby Posts: 8305 Skoda Fabia VRS

    #15 11th February 2007, 19:57

    There are different types of open and enclosed filters, but here are two of the most common looking ones
    
    Open
    
    
    
    
    Enclosed
    
    
16. Emma_ZS Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2006 Lincolnshire Posts: 8845 1. Mk2 Posi Furio 2. Fiesta Zetec S

    #16 11th February 2007, 20:02

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by S34MER There are different types of open and enclosed filters, but here are two of the most common looking ones Open Enclosed

    Thanks very much S34MER! you have been a very big help and i like that enclosed one, what type is it?
17. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #17 11th February 2007, 20:09

    looks like a procomp, dont make them anymore.
    i have a similar 1 for sale, all you will need to use it is a samco bend. i have that but im using it with my new filter.
18. Emma_ZS Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2006 Lincolnshire Posts: 8845 1. Mk2 Posi Furio 2. Fiesta Zetec S

    #18 11th February 2007, 20:10

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by williamsvts looks like a procomp, dont make them anymore. i have a similar 1 for sale, all you will need to use it is a samco bend. i have that but im using it with my new filter.

    can i ave some pics of it, please and details
19. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #19 11th February 2007, 20:12

    yeah. im off out now so will pm you the details.
    or search ebay for 'saxo simota green filter', my name on there is 'marc421984'.
20. Emma_ZS Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2006 Lincolnshire Posts: 8845 1. Mk2 Posi Furio 2. Fiesta Zetec S

    #20 11th February 2007, 20:13

    cheers
21. Emma_ZS Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2006 Lincolnshire Posts: 8845 1. Mk2 Posi Furio 2. Fiesta Zetec S

    #21 11th February 2007, 20:31

    for my 90 degree bend what width will i need?
22. bullit Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2005 e-hollywood Posts: 17160 toyata hilux

    #22 12th February 2007, 17:39

    you just have to measure the parts where the bend will fit onto too. im glad you understand now, im not good with the pictures
23. Predator_R32p Super Moderator Joined: Mar 2003 Durham (England) Posts: 37932 1. AX 2. Mk2 Saxo VTR 3. MK4 R32 DBP

    #23 12th February 2007, 17:56

    just got my green forced today, came with silicone hose then a 90 degree polished bend and then another bit of silicone hose, will get you a picture of it tommorrow once its fitted, there 210 delivered
24. Emma_ZS Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2006 Lincolnshire Posts: 8845 1. Mk2 Posi Furio 2. Fiesta Zetec S

    #24 12th February 2007, 18:04

    cheers mate
25. jas16v Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2007 Mid Wales Posts: 443 saxo vts mk2

    #25 12th February 2007, 18:14

    hey
    basically if you want noise it will be an open induction you're after, although it wont really increase your car's performance...
    
    an enclosed one is more for performance than noise (can cost a fair bit more too)
    
    hope that helps
26. Emma_ZS Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2006 Lincolnshire Posts: 8845 1. Mk2 Posi Furio 2. Fiesta Zetec S

    #26 12th February 2007, 18:16

    thanks to you aswell, lol