want to know the power-to-weight of YOUR car?

1. S34MER East Midlands Joined: Jun 2006 Derby Posts: 8305 Skoda Fabia VRS

   #1 13th February 2007, 01:05

   Seeing as im really bored, does anyone want me to do a conversion of power to weight for their car? all i need to know is what car it is, and what the power output is at the flywheel!
   
   cheers
   
   Oli
2. Barry123 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS

   #2 13th February 2007, 02:14

   go on then.... see if you get the same answer as me...
   
   MK2 5-door saxo
   58 at the fly.
3. Baz Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2005 Coventry Posts: 17782 Fiesta ST150

   #3 13th February 2007, 02:20

   Furio - standard
4. Barry123 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS

   #4 13th February 2007, 02:24

   the gimboid buggered off.
   
   mine: 64hp per tonne
   
   Baz: 89hp per tonne
5. Baz Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2005 Coventry Posts: 17782 Fiesta ST150

   #5 13th February 2007, 02:44

   wooop
6. spencer_cammedvts Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2005 MEASHAM United Kingdom (England) Posts: 3445 257bhp Ibiza Cupra Turbo

   #6 13th February 2007, 08:30

   vts = 166bhp @ fly
   
   
   weighs 889kg
   
   whats the power to weight? bought 180 per tonne?
7. VTS_16v_Boy Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2006 Dartford Kent Posts: 5251 Pug 1007 HDi Sport (daily) / Abarth 500

   #7 13th February 2007, 08:36

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by spencer_cammedvts vts = 166bhp @ fly weighs 889kg whats the power to weight? bought 180 per tonne?

   
   Bloody Hell
   
   What have you taken out of the car to get it that lite?
   I read some where a standard S weighs in around the 934kg mark (Not how spot on that is)
   
   Core that is 'SUPER WEIGHT WATCHERS'
8. mrorange2 Established Member Joined: Nov 2006 Scunthorpe\Doncaster Posts: 1121 Fiesta ST & Saxo VTS

   #8 13th February 2007, 08:37

   Yeah how did you get it so light?????
9. S34MER East Midlands Joined: Jun 2006 Derby Posts: 8305 Skoda Fabia VRS

   #9 13th February 2007, 09:32

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by adsayer go on then.... see if you get the same answer as me... MK2 5-door saxo 58 at the fly.

   65.16bhp/ton
10. S34MER East Midlands Joined: Jun 2006 Derby Posts: 8305 Skoda Fabia VRS

    #10 13th February 2007, 09:33

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by spencer_cammedvts vts = 166bhp @ fly weighs 889kg whats the power to weight? bought 180 per tonne?

    186.72bhp/ton
11. S34MER East Midlands Joined: Jun 2006 Derby Posts: 8305 Skoda Fabia VRS

    #11 13th February 2007, 10:34

    anymore for anymore??
12. Barry123 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS

    #12 13th February 2007, 12:40

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by S34MER 65.16bhp/ton

    ummm slight discrepancy between yours and mine...
    
    what weight are you using? baring in mind the 5 door is slightly heavier than the equiv 3-door model
13. hesslevtr Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2004 Hull (England) Posts: 18709 1.6 vtr

    #13 13th February 2007, 13:01

    do me
    
    going buy leeds106 rr results 110bhp
    
    and standard weight
14. fredjudd Established Member Joined: Aug 2006 Salisbury Posts: 1118 Saxo VTR full Janspeed exhuast (4-2

    #14 13th February 2007, 13:15

    110 bhp,
    
    no rear seats, carpet, door cards, bucket seats, no spare wheel.
15. dsh85 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2005 Teesside Posts: 8800 focus tdci, clio v6

    #15 13th February 2007, 13:19

    standard vts weight and a supposed 133.1bhp
    
    no ghey jokes paul before you even think
    
    actually ive removed badges! so thats obv 50kg less
16. spencer_cammedvts Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2005 MEASHAM United Kingdom (England) Posts: 3445 257bhp Ibiza Cupra Turbo

    #16 13th February 2007, 13:28

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by VTS_16v_Boy Bloody Hell What have you taken out of the car to get it that lite? I read some where a standard S weighs in around the 934kg mark (Not how spot on that is) Core that is 'SUPER WEIGHT WATCHERS'

    iv taken out the:
    sparewheel
    hanger
    jack etc...
    rear seats are out,
    rear belts
    front belts
    no centre silencer,
    no cat
    3rd brake light
    lightened 106 gti alloys
    
    still got to take out my plastic bit that surrounds the gearstick and houses the immobiliser pad
17. Scottp Administrator Joined: Dec 2002 Glasgow United Kingdom (Scotland) Posts: 26097 Chelski Traktor

    #17 13th February 2007, 13:41

    was the car weighed or guesstimate?
18. CampDavid Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2006 Bedford Posts: 7457 Saxo VTS Peugeot 306 GTI-6 Astra SRI

    #18 13th February 2007, 13:49

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by spencer_cammedvts iv taken out the: sparewheel hanger jack etc... rear seats are out, rear belts front belts no centre silencer, no cat 3rd brake light lightened 106 gti alloys still got to take out my plastic bit that surrounds the gearstick and houses the immobiliser pad

    That'll still be well over 900kgs I'm afraid
19. VTS_16v_Boy Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2006 Dartford Kent Posts: 5251 Pug 1007 HDi Sport (daily) / Abarth 500

    #19 13th February 2007, 13:54

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by spencer_cammedvts iv taken out the: sparewheel hanger jack etc... rear seats are out, rear belts front belts no centre silencer, no cat 3rd brake light lightened 106 gti alloys still got to take out my plastic bit that surrounds the gearstick and houses the immobiliser pad

    Now thats impressive stuff mate
    Ive done:
    
    Spare Wheel hanger
    Rear seats and Parcel Shelf
    Rear Carpet and Sound Deading
    Centre Rear Seat Belt (rest going as soon as I can remove the support for the parcel shelf - aint got a small enough tool to get down the hole)
    Centre Silencer Removed
    ECU cover (that makes all the difference)
    
    Im getting there
20. chrisni1986 Established Member Joined: May 2005 Northern Ireland Posts: 1020 EVO 5, 306XLD

    #20 13th February 2007, 14:43

    i honestly cant see carpet for all there is in the back making that much difference in weight, spare wheel yes as it does weight a bit but all the little plastic bits like door cards etc dont honestly weight that much do they?
21. CampDavid Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2006 Bedford Posts: 7457 Saxo VTS Peugeot 306 GTI-6 Astra SRI

    #21 13th February 2007, 14:45

    Not really, it all adds up though. Carpet does way a suprising amount when you remove enough of it. Wheels can make a difference too, you'll find about 20kgs difference between some ultra legs/pro race and some fat blingy shitters
22. Yates Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Pompey/Darlo Posts: 31546 MK1 - 1.1 Animal

    #22 13th February 2007, 14:47

    plus the sound deadening under the carpet as well, as dave says it will all ad up
23. saxophone Regular Poster Joined: Dec 2005 kent United Kingdom (England) Posts: 331 BMW M3 SMG Vert 2004

    #23 13th February 2007, 14:50

    its a bit like tesco's, every little helps!
24. Barry123 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS

    #24 13th February 2007, 15:05

    i was a little shocked at the weight of the carpet... but thats because im weak
25. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #25 13th February 2007, 15:13

    889 is still bloody heavy! not exactly uber weight loss..
    
    removing all the unwanted sound deadening will make much more of a difference than that is there.
26. S34MER East Midlands Joined: Jun 2006 Derby Posts: 8305 Skoda Fabia VRS

    #26 13th February 2007, 15:27

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by adsayer ummm slight discrepancy between yours and mine... what weight are you using? baring in mind the 5 door is slightly heavier than the equiv 3-door model

    was using the wieght of a standard 1.5 diesel saxo!
    
    

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by hesslevtr going buy leeds106 rr results 110bhp and standard weight

    119.56bhp/ton
    
    

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dsh85 standard vts weight and a supposed 133.1bhp

    142.24bhp/ton
27. dsh85 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2005 Teesside Posts: 8800 focus tdci, clio v6

    #27 13th February 2007, 15:29

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by S34MER was using the wieght of a standard 1.5 diesel saxo! 119.56bhp/ton 142.24bhp/ton

    thought id been forgotten about there!
    
    just need to learn to drive properly now
28. Barry123 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS

    #28 13th February 2007, 15:34

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by S34MER was using the wieght of a standard 1.5 diesel saxo!

    mine is 20kgs heavier apparently, but i balance that out by weighing 20kgs less than most people...
29. hesslevtr Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2004 Hull (England) Posts: 18709 1.6 vtr

    #29 13th February 2007, 16:35

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dsh85 thought id been forgotten about there! just need to learn to drive properly now

    same didnt think we were good enough for him
    
    oh and yours is a furio and them rollers were dodgy to get your figure
    
    my gran can drive better then you and shes stiff
30. Barry123 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS

    #30 13th February 2007, 16:40

    haha
    at a teesside park meet he aims for a nippy getaway, sets off, wheelspins it, doesnt go very far, pulls a funny face like he wasnt meant to it.
    
    still makes me laugh now
31. Remould Newbie Joined: Feb 2007 Aldershot, Hampshire. Posts: 16 '99 Citroen Saxo 1.1 EastCoast.

    #31 13th February 2007, 16:52

    65BHP 825KG Mark 1
    
    What is the equasion to work out the power to weight ratio?
    
    Cheers Steve.
32. S34MER East Midlands Joined: Jun 2006 Derby Posts: 8305 Skoda Fabia VRS

    #32 13th February 2007, 16:55

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Remould 65BHP 825KG Mark 1 What is the equasion to work out the power to weight ratio?

    No mate, you give me your car details and i will calculate the PTW ratio for your car....... your cars power-to-weight ratio is 78.78bhp/ton
33. spencer_cammedvts Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2005 MEASHAM United Kingdom (England) Posts: 3445 257bhp Ibiza Cupra Turbo

    #33 13th February 2007, 17:00

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CampDavid That'll still be well over 900kgs I'm afraid

    im afraid iv ben on a weigh bridge!
34. dsh85 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2005 Teesside Posts: 8800 focus tdci, clio v6

    #34 13th February 2007, 17:32

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by adsayer haha at a teesside park meet he aims for a nippy getaway, sets off, wheelspins it, doesnt go very far, pulls a funny face like he wasnt meant to it. still makes me laugh now

    that was my attempted comical boy racer bit, then regretted it at smellling the 195/40s burning
35. dannygti Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 dudley United Kingdom (England) Posts: 6790 106 gti/ SEAT LCR

    #35 13th February 2007, 17:58

    i know the equasion. its 1000 divided by weight x power.my car is 140bhp per tonne
36. S34MER East Midlands Joined: Jun 2006 Derby Posts: 8305 Skoda Fabia VRS

    #36 13th February 2007, 18:20

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dannygti i know the equasion. its 1000 divided by weight x power.my car is 140bhp per tonne

    thats not the way i was working it out, but that does work!! well done! its not exactly rocket science to work out in the first place i'll send you a blue peter badge tomorrow morning first thing
37. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #37 13th February 2007, 19:37

    my aim is to get well over 200bhp per tonne.
    
    think when i get the engine rebuilt i aim for 225-250 region
38. stevenixon Infrequent Poster Joined: Jan 2007 Donnington, Derby Posts: 120 Saxo VTS 167bhp

    #38 13th February 2007, 21:45

    class thread S34MER!!
39. Barry123 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS

    #39 13th February 2007, 21:58

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Itsafastworld85 my aim is to get well over 200bhp per tonne. think when i get the engine rebuilt i aim for 225-250 region

    Dont think I've seen any pics of your car or the list of mods ryan?
    got any?
40. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #40 14th February 2007, 16:17

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by adsayer Dont think I've seen any pics of your car or the list of mods ryan? got any?

    my road car theres a few pics about.
    
    what im building im not releasing pics of till its finished to avoid egg on face incase it doesnt get finished lol
    
    there will be a huge ASW thread if i get it running though
41. saxo_vtr1234 Established Member Joined: Apr 2006 cambridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 1208 saxo vtr silver

    #41 14th February 2007, 17:29

    itsafastworld85
    
    what car/s do you actuly own ive always wonderd you seem to no your stuff bowt them
42. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #42 14th February 2007, 17:33

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by saxo_vtr1234 itsafastworld85 what car/s do you actuly own ive always wonderd you seem to no your stuff bowt them

    
    road car is a vtr.
    
    other car is hush hush. and those who do know i would like them to stay the same please.
    
    i dont know much imo.. i just try and do reading and research into stuff, and alot of the stuff on here is generally common sense.
    
    pic of road car
    
43. saxo_vtr1234 Established Member Joined: Apr 2006 cambridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 1208 saxo vtr silver

    #43 14th February 2007, 17:42

    nice i like that mate you look a fairly tall chap lol
    is the track slag a saxo etleast tell me that
44. bullit Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2005 e-hollywood Posts: 17160 toyata hilux

    #44 14th February 2007, 17:43

    its a ............ ,lol
45. saxo_vtr1234 Established Member Joined: Apr 2006 cambridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 1208 saxo vtr silver

    #45 14th February 2007, 17:46

    its a .... its a what lol tell me i wanna no is it a saxo ? thats all i want to no for now
46. bullit Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2005 e-hollywood Posts: 17160 toyata hilux

    #46 14th February 2007, 17:49

    yes it is
47. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #47 14th February 2007, 17:50

    im 6ft 6 so deffo fairly tall lol!
    
    teaser pic of one of the parts
    
    
48. saxo_vtr1234 Established Member Joined: Apr 2006 cambridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 1208 saxo vtr silver

    #48 14th February 2007, 17:50

    i think i can now sleep at night
49. saxo_vtr1234 Established Member Joined: Apr 2006 cambridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 1208 saxo vtr silver

    #49 14th February 2007, 17:52

    [QUOTE=Itsafastworld85;933581]im 6ft 6 so deffo fairly tall lol!
    
    teaser pic of one of the parts
    
    i could tell you where tall due to the fact that your helmet was on the roof lol
    
    i wanna see more than a diff well i think its a diff i wanna see hints of the car when is it due to be done bye ?
50. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #50 14th February 2007, 17:54

    [QUOTE=saxo_vtr1234;933592]

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Itsafastworld85 im 6ft 6 so deffo fairly tall lol! teaser pic of one of the parts i could tell you where tall due to the fact that your helmet was on the roof lol i wanna see more than a diff well i think its a diff i wanna see hints of the car when is it due to be done bye ?

    
    lol that was a good pic. most the session i drove with my head in the sunroof recess.
    
    yes its an ATB diff...
    
    
    erm car was due to be done by august 2006 LOL..
    
    although the engine is now in, part wired, im sorting the roll cage atm, brakes and 25mm arb should be going on soon as well as my quaifed up box.
51. saxo_vtr1234 Established Member Joined: Apr 2006 cambridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 1208 saxo vtr silver

    #51 14th February 2007, 17:57

    you got any pics of the engine pm me them or something then no one else will see then i can feel all inportant lol
52. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #52 14th February 2007, 18:01

    haha NEIN
53. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #53 14th February 2007, 18:02

    i wanna be a big ASW when its done..
    
    its not gonna be huge spec.. but will be something quite mad, and will be getting progresively better once its running and i know where i want to improve stuff.
54. saxo_vtr1234 Established Member Joined: Apr 2006 cambridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 1208 saxo vtr silver

    #54 14th February 2007, 18:06

    nice one will look forward to seeing it
    
    hurry up
55. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #55 14th February 2007, 18:09

    i say that to my mate daily to do the wiring lol!
    
    my cage sat in his field for 6months so ive spent several days sorting the oxidation on that out arghh