BMC or VIPER??

1. mattchewone Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2006 West Sussex Posts: 5769 Passat Oil Burner

   #1 14th February 2007, 08:45

   Whats the better induction kit for a vtr out of these to enclosed air filters. They are both roughly around the same price just want to know what would be the better option for my friend
2. Scottp Administrator Joined: Dec 2002 Glasgow United Kingdom (Scotland) Posts: 26097 Chelski Traktor

   #2 14th February 2007, 09:21

   BMC out of those two.
   
   Viper is encased in metal , metal gets hot quickly and stays hot.
3. S34MER East Midlands Joined: Jun 2006 Derby Posts: 8305 Skoda Fabia VRS

   #3 14th February 2007, 09:23

   Id say BMC too, although i have a Viper myself and they look much better imo lol
4. Lee_P Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2004 brierly hill , Dudley Posts: 4869 Saxo VTR MK2 : ( no moreeee got galaxy now

   #4 14th February 2007, 09:24

   BMC for me but also max power also recomended bmc becasue its chaepaer and gives more
5. Predator_R32p Super Moderator Joined: Mar 2003 Durham (England) Posts: 37932 1. AX 2. Mk2 Saxo VTR 3. MK4 R32 DBP

   #5 14th February 2007, 14:33

   Green lol, sorry just love mine at the minute
6. hesslevtr Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2004 Hull (England) Posts: 18709 1.6 vtr

   #6 14th February 2007, 15:30

   bmc for me to
7. djmartin Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2006 Near Hull Posts: 8405 BMW 3.0 X3,toyota mr2 & Skyline R33

   #7 14th February 2007, 15:38

   Quote:

   Viper is encased in metal , metal gets hot quickly and stays hot.

   i found that out the hard way hahaha OWWWWWW lol
8. Predator_R32p Super Moderator Joined: Mar 2003 Durham (England) Posts: 37932 1. AX 2. Mk2 Saxo VTR 3. MK4 R32 DBP

   #8 14th February 2007, 15:45

   lmao tut tut tut
9. VTS_16v_Boy Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2006 Dartford Kent Posts: 5251 Pug 1007 HDi Sport (daily) / Abarth 500

   #9 14th February 2007, 16:57

   Had niether but from things Ive heard and which is better vaule for money, Id say BMC over Viper simply because its cheaper really.
   
   There are other enclosed filters on the market but are unbranded if you fancy an unbranded item.
   
   eBay and simota - dpmotorsport stock one
10. Karl Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26

    #10 14th February 2007, 18:03

    BMC go go
11. Dan Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2003 Middlesbrough United Kingdom (England) Posts: 23676 Seat Leon FR

    #11 14th February 2007, 18:13

    Bmc for the same reason scott mentioned.
12. DS_furio L-plater Joined: Dec 2006 Burgess hill west sussex Posts: 90 black saxo furio

    #12 15th February 2007, 22:00

    my viper isnt metal it says on the box carbon fibre, still havt got it o nthe car yet its at the garage again making the most of its warrenty
13. Emma_ZS Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2006 Lincolnshire Posts: 8845 1. Mk2 Posi Furio 2. Fiesta Zetec S

    #13 15th February 2007, 22:02

    Which is the quietest enclosed induction kit?
14. bullit Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2005 e-hollywood Posts: 17160 toyata hilux

    #14 15th February 2007, 22:10

    the bmc stlye ones are the quietest, then the ram ones. which is thae actual quietest i dont t know
15. theo Infrequent Poster Joined: Jan 2007 Southampton Posts: 206 Renault Sport Clio 182 Trophy

    #15 15th February 2007, 22:35

    if you are made of money try an ITG Maxogen!
16. VTS_16v_Boy Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2006 Dartford Kent Posts: 5251 Pug 1007 HDi Sport (daily) / Abarth 500

    #16 16th February 2007, 08:54

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by theo if you are made of money try an ITG Maxogen!

    Gota a link mate? as Ive seen these on 172's/182's and couldnt seem to find them. Are they car based or universal fitting?
17. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #17 16th February 2007, 17:00

    itg make very good carbon boxes. shame they dont appear to have such good effect as a procomp would for example, the ram effect wors quite well in reality even tucked behind the slam pannel.
    
    id personally never touch piperx vipers.
    
    bmc or preferably a green encolsed.
18. Mattvtr Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2006 hinckley Posts: 2580

    #18 17th February 2007, 00:01

    had a bmc,loved it
19. Predator_R32p Super Moderator Joined: Mar 2003 Durham (England) Posts: 37932 1. AX 2. Mk2 Saxo VTR 3. MK4 R32 DBP

    #19 17th February 2007, 00:03

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by furiofanatic Which is the quietest enclosed induction kit?

    ive got a few videos of mine, have a listen to it, not too loud and not too quiet
20. SaxoBoi Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2006 Wigtown / Wherever That is Posts: 160 Red Westie

    #20 17th February 2007, 17:44

    Found that maxogen thing
    http://www.motorsportworld.co.uk/fra...en-filters.htm
21. RAFkev Established Member Joined: Nov 2005 Wirral Posts: 2198

    #21 17th February 2007, 21:44

    does anyone own one of these maxogen kits?
    
    they worth the price?
22. rushy_23 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Aug 2004 West Mids Posts: 15392 '98 EK9 N1

    #22 17th February 2007, 23:08

    I cant imagine "gains" if thats what you want to call it much different but you
    pay a lot less for the BMC.
    
    Both looks smart in there own way. Prefer the BMC imo.
23. theo Infrequent Poster Joined: Jan 2007 Southampton Posts: 206 Renault Sport Clio 182 Trophy

    #23 18th February 2007, 01:16

    I know some clio owners who have the ITG Maxogen http://www.k-tecracing.com/show_product.asp?id=1361
    
    The real gains are to be found (as with any induction kit) when you combine it with a re-map or chip! They are expensive kits, but you get a full carbon system, rather than something like the Vyper where you have metal rings and surrounds!
24. Predator_R32p Super Moderator Joined: Mar 2003 Durham (England) Posts: 37932 1. AX 2. Mk2 Saxo VTR 3. MK4 R32 DBP

    #24 18th February 2007, 01:37

    maxogen on GS motorsport, but i think they look cheap, and would be better with a green or bmc in my opinion
    
    http://www.gsmotorsport.com/maxogen-...ems-p-214.html
25. rushy_23 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Aug 2004 West Mids Posts: 15392 '98 EK9 N1

    #25 18th February 2007, 08:37

    That kit for a 106 GTi is £299 + £69.99!
    
    Would love to see one in person first.
26. stendog Established Member Joined: Aug 2007 southampton Posts: 2253 saxo vtr

    #26 4th September 2007, 21:11

    Back to bmc vs viper!! Surely the heat soak on the viper wouldnt matter as it has a cold air feed??? just a thought??
27. nazz1 Established Member Joined: Aug 2007 South Wales Posts: 2076 Saxoless

    #27 8th September 2007, 18:00

    BMC, good quality and they look smart!
28. makaveli144 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2007 Burton Posts: 3661 Alfa Romeo GT

    #28 8th September 2007, 18:05

    Quote:

    Back to bmc vs viper!! Surely the heat soak on the viper wouldnt matter as it has a cold air feed??? just a thought??

    That makes no sense. Most induction kits have a cold air feed unless its a open filter but a metal one is always going to be crap compared to anything else. The air travelling through it will be warmed up due to the hot metal.especially when the car isnt moving very fast.
    
    If the heat soak didnt matter because you have a cold air feed then no one would bother with carbon fibre kits and the more expensive non metal filters.
29. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #29 8th September 2007, 18:10

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by stendog Back to bmc vs viper!! Surely the heat soak on the viper wouldnt matter as it has a cold air feed??? just a thought??

    nope totally wrong.
    
    you would get heat soak from the the fact the metal casing would heat up and heat the filter itself, you dont want this, a cold air feed means diddly squat