Arghhh Carnt Decide 40 Or 60 Mil

1. chrismurra Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2007 cumbria uk Posts: 812 white saxo VTS

   #1 17th February 2007, 13:35

   carnt decide to lower 40 or 60 mill what do you guys think i dont want any truble with rubbing etc but i want good handeling
   i have a saxo vts 16 inch alloys 194/45/r16
   
   
2. chrismurra Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2007 cumbria uk Posts: 812 white saxo VTS

   #2 17th February 2007, 13:35

   hears the car
   
   http://img120.imageshack.us/my.php?i...7022007xf0.jpg
3. davevts Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2006 w-s-m Posts: 686 vts

   #3 17th February 2007, 13:37

   as said thousands of times and can be found using the search tool!
   
   40m for handling
   
   60m for show
4. Andy_S Established Member Joined: Apr 2006 Derby Posts: 1548 Saxo VTS

   #4 17th February 2007, 13:40

   Ive got mine lowered 40mm coz at the time i wasnt sure what 2 do, whether i wanted 40mm or 60mm. but now ive had it for a while, i kinda wish i got it lowered more.
5. woodsy Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2006 area 51, navada desert Posts: 2809 mk1 1998 silver saxo vts

   #5 17th February 2007, 13:40

   40mm
   
   just need to take the rear bumper bracket and rear arch liners out, and knock back the area where the wheels rub on the front plus handles better at 40mmm i believe
   
   60mm
   
   not sure ... heres mine with 40mm and 195/45/16
   
   
6. chrismurra Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2007 cumbria uk Posts: 812 white saxo VTS

   #6 17th February 2007, 13:43

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by woodsy 40mm just need to take the rear bumper bracket and rear arch liners out, and knock back the area where the wheels rub on the front plus handles better at 40mmm i believe 60mm not sure ... heres mine with 40mm and 195/45/16 http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...3/DSC00169.jpg

   cool i think ill go down 40 mil it wont be as bumpey 40 mil thanks mate what supension do you recomend spax im thinking of?
7. RS_Matt Established Member Joined: Feb 2007 Yorkshire Posts: 1771 Scooby.

   #7 17th February 2007, 13:43

   gone 35mm with mine to avoid problems with rubbing and body cracking. Still looks high at the front.
8. GrantW Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 Near Glasgow Posts: 3362 None...

   #8 17th February 2007, 14:32

   go 50mm, good compromise lol
9. Predator_R32p Super Moderator Joined: Mar 2003 Durham (England) Posts: 37932 1. AX 2. Mk2 Saxo VTR 3. MK4 R32 DBP

   #9 17th February 2007, 14:39

   heres a photoshop of ya car mate
   
   
   Standard
   
   
   
   about 40mm
   
   
   
   about 60mm
   
   
10. woodsy Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2006 area 51, navada desert Posts: 2809 mk1 1998 silver saxo vts

    #10 17th February 2007, 15:02

    your 60mm photoshop looks like my actual photo which is down 40mm
    
    and we have same size wheels/tyres
11. riggsy Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2006 West Sussex Posts: 6280 Mk2 Saxo Vts

    #11 17th February 2007, 15:11

    50mm
12. Predator_R32p Super Moderator Joined: Mar 2003 Durham (England) Posts: 37932 1. AX 2. Mk2 Saxo VTR 3. MK4 R32 DBP

    #12 17th February 2007, 15:15

    yeah but your alloys are 16s, i think his are 15s, yours looks more like 60mm to me, the back of your car definately dont look 40mm to me for definates
13. woodsy Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2006 area 51, navada desert Posts: 2809 mk1 1998 silver saxo vts

    #13 17th February 2007, 15:19

    he says he has vts 16" ?????
    
    vts are 15" but they arnt them in the pic
    
    mine is down 40/45mm on a g-max kit
14. Predator_R32p Super Moderator Joined: Mar 2003 Durham (England) Posts: 37932 1. AX 2. Mk2 Saxo VTR 3. MK4 R32 DBP

    #14 17th February 2007, 15:21

    seems like your car is about the same as mine, mines down 60 and looks very similar to your drop, maybe its because mines on 14s a dunno but seems like yours is down 60
15. rushy_23 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Aug 2004 West Mids Posts: 15392 '98 EK9 N1

    #15 17th February 2007, 15:22

    If you want to compromise (SP) mate then go 40mm on the front and 50mm
    on the rear.
    
    Mine was 40mm all round and it was too high at the back, now thats its 50mm
    it all looks spot on!
16. chrismurra Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2007 cumbria uk Posts: 812 white saxo VTS

    #16 17th February 2007, 17:47

    60 looks better but i dont want too many probs so i think ill go down 50 coz in the photoshop it looks too high down 40 so i guess ill go 50
17. chrismurra Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2007 cumbria uk Posts: 812 white saxo VTS

    #17 17th February 2007, 17:50

    looks like i carnt go down 50 with spax so i guess ill go down 60 what do you think of this supension valus for money and performance etc
    
    http://www.spax-suspension.co.uk/pro...cts_id=1309039
18. chrismurra Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2007 cumbria uk Posts: 812 white saxo VTS

    #18 17th February 2007, 17:51

    or no sory i can go down 50 but its the same price to go down 60 what do you think
    
    http://www.spax-suspension.co.uk/pro...cts_id=1309037
19. Josh_Phipps Established Member Joined: Jun 2006 Aylesbury, Bucks Posts: 1867 Mk 2 Vtr (sold), Fiat Seciento Sporting

    #19 17th February 2007, 18:09

    Go 50 or 60 m8, Im down 40 but now wishing i went lower
20. Predator_R32p Super Moderator Joined: Mar 2003 Durham (England) Posts: 37932 1. AX 2. Mk2 Saxo VTR 3. MK4 R32 DBP

    #20 17th February 2007, 18:10

    mines down 60 and still looks and handles great i dont care what anyones says
21. chrismurra Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2007 cumbria uk Posts: 812 white saxo VTS

    #21 17th February 2007, 18:13

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Predator_VTR mines down 60 and still looks and handles great i dont care what anyones says

    what do you make of these then mate there spax 60 mil drop are they any good or are spax a poor make hears the link
    
    http://www.spax-suspension.co.uk/pro...cts_id=1309039
22. Predator_R32p Super Moderator Joined: Mar 2003 Durham (England) Posts: 37932 1. AX 2. Mk2 Saxo VTR 3. MK4 R32 DBP

    #22 17th February 2007, 18:19

    seem ok to me proablies be better than mine, mines pi springs and standard shocks, have you had a look on ebay for some??
    
    people say pi and spax are crap, ive never had any expierience with spax but pi a really dont know why people think there crap i got mine for more looks than anything, plus the back end feels a lot more grippy this low so am happy
23. chrismurra Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2007 cumbria uk Posts: 812 white saxo VTS

    #23 17th February 2007, 18:23

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Predator_VTR seem ok to me proablies be better than mine, mines pi springs and standard shocks, have you had a look on ebay for some?? people say pi and spax are crap, ive never had any expierience with spax but pi a really dont know why people think there crap i got mine for more looks than anything, plus the back end feels a lot more grippy this low so am happy

    what do you recomend if spax are crap im new to lowering so i am unsure it was my mate who told me to get spax
24. Predator_R32p Super Moderator Joined: Mar 2003 Durham (England) Posts: 37932 1. AX 2. Mk2 Saxo VTR 3. MK4 R32 DBP

    #24 17th February 2007, 18:31

    well are you going to be going on track or just for road use??
25. chrismurra Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2007 cumbria uk Posts: 812 white saxo VTS

    #25 17th February 2007, 18:32

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Predator_VTR well are you going to be going on track or just for road use??

    just rode use mate?
26. Predator_R32p Super Moderator Joined: Mar 2003 Durham (England) Posts: 37932 1. AX 2. Mk2 Saxo VTR 3. MK4 R32 DBP

    #26 17th February 2007, 18:33

    well go for the spax mate, dont listen other people there just rally/track whores lol
27. chrismurra Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2007 cumbria uk Posts: 812 white saxo VTS

    #27 17th February 2007, 18:36

    cool thanks mate rep given, il get spax as there not too pricey do you think it will be bumpey going down 60 rather than 40 or will it be just the same??
28. Predator_R32p Super Moderator Joined: Mar 2003 Durham (England) Posts: 37932 1. AX 2. Mk2 Saxo VTR 3. MK4 R32 DBP

    #28 17th February 2007, 18:40

    well it is a lot more bumpier than standard but looks the dogs bollocks and you will get used to it after a few week when the suspension settles down, if your not sure just go for 50mm its a good compromise between the 2
    
    also is your car a mk1 or mk2
29. chrismurra Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2007 cumbria uk Posts: 812 white saxo VTS

    #29 17th February 2007, 18:42

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Predator_VTR well it is a lot more bumpier than standard but looks the dogs bollocks and you will get used to it after a few week when the suspension settles down, if your not sure just go for 50mm its a good compromise between the 2 also is your car a mk1 or mk2

    my car is mark 2 i think, i dont think you can get spax 50 mil just 40 or 60 otherwise i would just go 50
30. Predator_R32p Super Moderator Joined: Mar 2003 Durham (England) Posts: 37932 1. AX 2. Mk2 Saxo VTR 3. MK4 R32 DBP

    #30 17th February 2007, 18:45

    you can get 50mm springs ill have a loof for you in a minute, also going down lower than 40 you will probablies have to watch the PAS pipe as it rubs on the steering/tracking arm, but its easily fixed just needs levering out of the way
    
    EDIT Gmax do a 55mm lowering kit
31. chrismurra Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2007 cumbria uk Posts: 812 white saxo VTS

    #31 17th February 2007, 18:49

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Predator_VTR you can get 50mm springs ill have a loof for you in a minute, also going down lower than 40 you will probablies have to watch the PAS pipe as it rubs on the steering/tracking arm, but its easily fixed just needs levering out of the way

    is there any links on how to fix this mate as i have no idea what a PAS pipe is
32. chrismurra Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2007 cumbria uk Posts: 812 white saxo VTS

    #32 17th February 2007, 18:52

    gmax 55 mil is 200 quid i might as well get spax 60 mil for 175
33. BruceybabyVTR Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2006 Edinburgh Posts: 858 Saxo VTR MK2

    #33 17th February 2007, 18:54

    There is faq on moving the PAS pipe i think mate!
    
    I would go 40 if you have lots of speedbumps or cushions around your area. I have the Gmax 55mm kit (not fitted)
    
    And my friend with a 106 lowered hers 40 on 15's and she's ripped her exhaust off twice and bottoms out alot, so im trying to get 35 springs lol
34. chrismurra Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2007 cumbria uk Posts: 812 white saxo VTS

    #34 17th February 2007, 18:55

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BruceybabyVTR There is faq on moving the PAS pipe i think mate! I would go 40 if you have lots of speedbumps or cushions around your area. I have the Gmax 55mm kit (not fitted) And my friend with a 106 lowered hers 40 on 15's and she's ripped her exhaust off twice and bottoms out alot, so im trying to get 35 springs lol

    yer but 40 mill dosent look very low in the photo shop on page 1 thats why i am thinking of going lower
35. BruceybabyVTR Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2006 Edinburgh Posts: 858 Saxo VTR MK2

    #35 17th February 2007, 18:57

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by chrismurra gmax 55 mil is 200 quid i might as well get spax 60 mil for 175

    If you really want the 55 kit mate, get on ebay, my mate got that kit for 130 and sold it to me for 100. there was loads on ther for 130, just take your time searching........
36. Predator_R32p Super Moderator Joined: Mar 2003 Durham (England) Posts: 37932 1. AX 2. Mk2 Saxo VTR 3. MK4 R32 DBP

    #36 17th February 2007, 18:57

    simple soloution dont go down a street with humps lil
    
    id just go for the 60mm kit mate, mine only scrapes on the driveway, speedhumps arent an issue for me down 60
37. Colin Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2006 Banbury Posts: 4623 Saxo Rally Car Evo 6

    #37 17th February 2007, 18:59

    40mm, nuff said
38. chrismurra Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2007 cumbria uk Posts: 812 white saxo VTS

    #38 17th February 2007, 19:00

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Predator_VTR simple soloution dont go down a street with humps lil id just go for the 60mm kit mate, mine only scrapes on the driveway, speedhumps arent an issue for me down 60

    so you think i suld go 60? i have speed bumps in my erea but dont go over them a lot and driveway is flat so that shudent be a problem
39. BruceybabyVTR Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2006 Edinburgh Posts: 858 Saxo VTR MK2

    #39 17th February 2007, 19:04

    go with what suits you mait. If your wrong you can change it!
40. Predator_R32p Super Moderator Joined: Mar 2003 Durham (England) Posts: 37932 1. AX 2. Mk2 Saxo VTR 3. MK4 R32 DBP

    #40 17th February 2007, 19:08

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ColSax 40mm, nuff said

    fine example of a track whore lol, notice the signature
41. chrismurra Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2007 cumbria uk Posts: 812 white saxo VTS

    #41 17th February 2007, 19:08

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BruceybabyVTR go with what suits you mait. If your wrong you can change it!

    i would go 50 but cannot find any 50 mm for my car
42. Predator_R32p Super Moderator Joined: Mar 2003 Durham (England) Posts: 37932 1. AX 2. Mk2 Saxo VTR 3. MK4 R32 DBP

    #42 17th February 2007, 19:09

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by chrismurra i would go 50 but cannot find any 50 mm for my car

    Pi do 50mm springs
43. chrismurra Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2007 cumbria uk Posts: 812 white saxo VTS

    #43 17th February 2007, 19:10

    are pi any good??
44. Predator_R32p Super Moderator Joined: Mar 2003 Durham (England) Posts: 37932 1. AX 2. Mk2 Saxo VTR 3. MK4 R32 DBP

    #44 17th February 2007, 19:14

    i have them and never had any trouble mate, others might disagree but they have been on my car for a good 3 and a half year and have not troubled me one bit
45. chrismurra Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2007 cumbria uk Posts: 812 white saxo VTS

    #45 17th February 2007, 19:15

    cool thanks mate
46. Predator_R32p Super Moderator Joined: Mar 2003 Durham (England) Posts: 37932 1. AX 2. Mk2 Saxo VTR 3. MK4 R32 DBP

    #46 17th February 2007, 19:18

    also have to look on how long ive been on this site, so i would not recommend crap springs when ive been on here for 4 year
47. saxooxas Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2006 stalybridge! Posts: 2550 1 series

    #47 17th February 2007, 19:29

    40 or 60 mill would buy a lot of shit so lets say 60 on a serious note do 40 and see how it feels i think 40 would be better
48. nikstar Infrequent Poster Joined: Nov 2005 morpeth United Kingdom (England) Posts: 169 Clio sport 172

    #48 18th February 2007, 11:22

    Me thinks woodsy's looks very very good height with the 16s, I have 16s ready for my vts (when a get it) think that will be the height for me. I think is looks well good + wont loose ur handling!
49. RS_Matt Established Member Joined: Feb 2007 Yorkshire Posts: 1771 Scooby.

    #49 20th February 2007, 00:39

    Anybody had both a 30mm drop and 60mm drop (roughly) on same car at different times and noticed a big difference in insurance price?
50. chrismurra Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2007 cumbria uk Posts: 812 white saxo VTS

    #50 20th February 2007, 00:44

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by RS_Matt Anybody had both a 30mm drop and 60mm drop (roughly) on same car at different times and noticed a big difference in insurance price?

    why is it alot more expencive to insure im going down 50mm soon so i might not tell my insurence if its a lot
51. RS_Matt Established Member Joined: Feb 2007 Yorkshire Posts: 1771 Scooby.

    #51 21st February 2007, 15:37

    depends on insurer but it was £50 extra on my old escort to lower 60mm and add 15" alloys.