Decision on exhausts

1. saxosab L-plater Joined: Feb 2007 Chestefield Posts: 46 Saxo vtr

   #1 23rd February 2007, 17:38

   Hey i was wondering if you all could help me out. I currently have a piper stainless back box on the car, to put it plainly its dead quiet, its so quiet i could drive through a library and know one would hear it lol. Was wondering which exhausts are the loudest? Ive bin told that ashley competition are good. Any suggestions ?
2. riggsy Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2006 West Sussex Posts: 6280 Mk2 Saxo Vts

   #2 23rd February 2007, 17:45

   Been talked about soo much on this forum mate have a search!
   
   If you want LOUD go custom!
   
   If you want loud but pro go magnex like i have, sounds fooking awesome!
3. saxosab L-plater Joined: Feb 2007 Chestefield Posts: 46 Saxo vtr

   #3 23rd February 2007, 17:48

   lol lol, cool i have a nice car just a very quiet nice car lol, ill have 2 have a search and get sum more opinions.
4. Saxo_Steve Frequent Poster Joined: Apr 2006 Prestwick Posts: 952 Saxo VTR mk2

   #4 23rd February 2007, 23:47

   Piper is usually quite loud, why not get a decat and remove the centre silencer if you haven't already?
5. Predator_R32p Super Moderator Joined: Mar 2003 Durham (England) Posts: 37932 1. AX 2. Mk2 Saxo VTR 3. MK4 R32 DBP

   #5 23rd February 2007, 23:53

   omp exhausts are very loud
6. GTI_Lee Established Member Joined: Jun 2006 Wales Posts: 1486 1)2002 Saxo VTR 2)2003 106 GTI

   #6 24th February 2007, 00:05

   I hear alot about these cybox exhausts! They are supposed to be quite loud! I have a magnex and i think it sounds lovely!
7. paul_saxo_VTR Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 126 Supercharged VTR, Audi TT 225

   #7 24th February 2007, 00:14

   my friend has a piper full system and it was far to loud
8. Martinsaxo Established Member Joined: Nov 2006 Guildford Posts: 1178 Mk1 VTS

   #8 24th February 2007, 00:44

   i got a Peco Big bore backbox and thats pretty loud and sounds nice too
   
   Martin.
9. saxosab L-plater Joined: Feb 2007 Chestefield Posts: 46 Saxo vtr

   #9 24th February 2007, 01:15

   thanx for your help people, ill have a dig around see wot i can find and wot offers i can get on them
10. Martinsaxo Established Member Joined: Nov 2006 Guildford Posts: 1178 Mk1 VTS

    #10 24th February 2007, 23:57

    yer i can get a sound clip of it if you want?
    
    Martin.
11. saxosab L-plater Joined: Feb 2007 Chestefield Posts: 46 Saxo vtr

    #11 25th February 2007, 00:01

    if you could get that sound clip that would be awesome
12. vipergfx Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Oct 2006 Washington Posts: 3117 veeteeess

    #12 25th February 2007, 00:20

    pm stiffler69 i heard his cybox exhaust, bearing in mind it was a single 2.5" it was shit hot for loudness :O
13. hesslevtr Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2004 Hull (England) Posts: 18709 1.6 vtr

    #13 25th February 2007, 00:23

    my piper is stupidly loud
    
    its only loud when you decat it though
14. saxosab L-plater Joined: Feb 2007 Chestefield Posts: 46 Saxo vtr

    #14 25th February 2007, 17:05

    oh rite, that will be why then mine aint loud. should be getting summat sorted for me sax wen i get me first pay packet. Im still looking around and looking for the best prices
15. saxonutter Frequent Poster Joined: Apr 2006 Luton Posts: 623 Soon to be a Civic EK9 - Type R

    #15 25th February 2007, 18:53

    nilltek are loud with a de cat but also relativly hard to get.
    
    here is it on my 1.1i
    
    http://tgtbt-online.com/~jesus/car_rev.mp3
    
    well i mean i tink its loud enough.
16. VTS_16v_Boy Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2006 Dartford Kent Posts: 5251 Pug 1007 HDi Sport (daily) / Abarth 500

    #16 26th February 2007, 09:57

    Really you have quite a large choice open to you.
    
    You can first simply change your centre section to a straight through setup either buy replacing the whole section or simply removing the centre box. This way you could keep you piper back box ergo saving you money.
    
    Second you could totally upgrade to one of the more performance/competion style exhaust both Ashley and OMP make a Mild Steel system which would see very good gains over a standard exhaust setup with just a back box.
    
    OMP also produce a very good system in stainless steel which is ver simalar to the PugSport item, which has a small 2" tailpipe which aids back pressure there by increasing perofmance.
    
    Its worth notin tho that both OMP exhaust replace the cat with a striaght through pipe there by also increasing noise and perofmance where as the Ashley system does not.
    
    If your intrested in OMP check YB Racing on eBay, if you intrested in the ashley the check out www.rallydeign.co.uk
    
    The 3rd option is the custom build - have whatever you what exiting where ever you want. Some people feel this option does not offer a good pefomance return but I beleive it depends on the style of exhaust you deside to build. Keep it small bored with a back box under 4" and you should be ok.
17. Martinsaxo Established Member Joined: Nov 2006 Guildford Posts: 1178 Mk1 VTS

    #17 1st March 2007, 23:59

    ok mate ill get you a sound clip tomorow
    
    Martin.
18. RS_Matt Established Member Joined: Feb 2007 Yorkshire Posts: 1771 Scooby.

    #18 2nd March 2007, 00:06

    Get a mechanic/garage/welder to take the baffle out of the Piper back box!!! A garage in wakey did it to my peco a few years back and it sounded great! Only cost a tenner.
19. VTS_16v_Boy Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2006 Dartford Kent Posts: 5251 Pug 1007 HDi Sport (daily) / Abarth 500

    #19 2nd March 2007, 08:05

    If your looking for a loud but nice note, how about using a small 3.5'-4' universal can - these Jap style cans are loud because they use very little baffles (the interals that reduce noise) if you soucrh one where the outer can is almost as big as the opeing and tailpipe then you will/should get a nice burble almost a turbo tick-over note then once rev your get a very roary note.
    
    
    
    Add this to the removal of the centre box for the greatest effect as the note will be more clean and less silienced - dont remove the cat as the cat will aid pack pressure and keep some kinda performance in the exhaust losing the cat will totally make the exhaust striaght through from the manifold and without any kind of box to aid back pressure you will most probally see a loss in performance.
    
    These style of 'custom' exhaust are more to do with style than performance and if you except that then thats fine - Ive had one before and I took it for what it was - a custom exhaust
    
    
    
    But for best gains in performance from a NA engine you need back pressure and that is created within exhaust like this one from OMP - note the smaller tailpipe and more compact can. Not to everyones tastes but good performer none the less
    
    
    
    A good noisey exhaust off the shelf is the Mild Steel Ashley competion exhaust, good performer and a bargain too at around £150 for a full system check out www.rallydesign.co.uk if your interested in that - with two tailpipe choices 3' and 4'
20. richo Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2005 Peterborough Posts: 834

    #20 2nd March 2007, 09:33

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by RS_Matt Get a mechanic/garage/welder to take the baffle out of the Piper back box!!! A garage in wakey did it to my peco a few years back and it sounded great! Only cost a tenner.

    And is this road legal to remove the baffle out of your back box??
21. VTS_16v_Boy Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2006 Dartford Kent Posts: 5251 Pug 1007 HDi Sport (daily) / Abarth 500

    #21 2nd March 2007, 09:43

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by richo And is this road legal to remove the baffle out of your back box??

    As long as it doent excede a certain decabell db at MoT time on tick over your be fine.
    
    Check with a MoT station what the Leagal limit is on tick over as I dont think they do the sound test with the car reving worth checking thou
22. djrem Saxperience Addict Joined: Feb 2007 Ramsden Bellhouse (Billericay) Posts: 12826 Various.

    #22 2nd March 2007, 10:35

    Source:
    http://www.mot-test.net/mock-test/ex...stem/index.htm
    
    Silencer baffles missing can also result in an MOT failure. The baffles are designed to reduce the noise levels being passed through the exhaust. At the mot examiners digression excessive noise can result in an MOT failure.
    
    
    
    
    So theres no decibel. its if the guy likes the sound or not.
23. richo Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2005 Peterborough Posts: 834

    #23 2nd March 2007, 12:50

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by djrem Source: http://www.mot-test.net/mock-test/ex...stem/index.htm Silencer baffles missing can also result in an MOT failure. The baffles are designed to reduce the noise levels being passed through the exhaust. At the mot examiners digression excessive noise can result in an MOT failure. So theres no decibel. its if the guy likes the sound or not.

    
    Nice one cheers that answers the questions, think i'll have a non-silenced center section rather than removing the baffle from a back-box.
24. djrem Saxperience Addict Joined: Feb 2007 Ramsden Bellhouse (Billericay) Posts: 12826 Various.

    #24 2nd March 2007, 22:41

    or just pop a standard back box on for the test
25. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #25 2nd March 2007, 23:02

    i have the OMP and its pretty loud.