throttle body on a vtr turbo?

1. james-c2-vtr-turbo Newbie Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 22

   #1 28th February 2007, 23:07

   hi do you think it is a good ider to put throttle body on a turbo car because i am thinking about puting so on my turbo vtr?
   is there any one selling some?
   what about R1 OR CBR600 THROTTLE BODYS???
   thanks
2. stiffler69 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2006 North East Posts: 5289

   #2 28th February 2007, 23:34

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by james-c2-vtr-turbo hi do you think it is a good ider to put throttle body on a turbo car because i am thinking about puting so on my turbo vtr? is there any one selling some? what about R1 OR CBR600 THROTTLE BODYS??? thanks

   Are you seious?
3. stiffler69 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2006 North East Posts: 5289

   #3 28th February 2007, 23:35

   Im not even sure you know what a turbo'd car looks like mate i think you best have a good long think about your first post
4. Scottp Administrator Joined: Dec 2002 Glasgow United Kingdom (Scotland) Posts: 26097 Chelski Traktor

   #4 1st March 2007, 00:11

   erm why should he take a good long at his first post? Perfectly good question? The old pulsar gti r (one of the performance nissans anyway) ran bodies and turbo as standard
   
   Answer is yes you can put throttle bodies on the turbo car, a few people make kits and you could use a bike kit but will obviously take more fabrication, need to move to stand alone management as well which is no bad thing
5. S34MER East Midlands Joined: Jun 2006 Derby Posts: 8305 Skoda Fabia VRS

   #5 1st March 2007, 07:30

   i always wondered if it was possible to run T/B's on a charged car too mate, so thanks for clearing that up scott!!
6. vtr_driver Established Member Joined: Aug 2006 Consett Co.Durham Posts: 1126 2000 Ph2 VTR

   #6 1st March 2007, 08:37

   The TB's would need to be adapted to cope with the build up of boost. Its definitely possible though.
   
   Guy on Retro Rides is using bike TBs on his supercharged Hillman Imp.
7. stiffler69 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2006 North East Posts: 5289

   #7 1st March 2007, 10:32

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Scott erm why should he take a good long at his first post? Perfectly good question? The old pulsar gti r (one of the performance nissans anyway) ran bodies and turbo as standard Answer is yes you can put throttle bodies on the turbo car, a few people make kits and you could use a bike kit but will obviously take more fabrication, need to move to stand alone management as well which is no bad thing

   How is it possible though cause i thought all a throttle bodie does is pull in there own air for each inlet so would the turbo push into all 4 inlets via a trumpet like manifold? i cant see there been much point and what sort of gains is there and why isnt seen much if its something what will increase performance massively
8. Scottp Administrator Joined: Dec 2002 Glasgow United Kingdom (Scotland) Posts: 26097 Chelski Traktor

   #8 1st March 2007, 12:09

   sybez runs throttle bodies adn supercharger. Was 220 at the wheels but hasnt been reran as it isnt finished yet as far as im aware.
   
   Custom plenum across the 4 bodies. Same advantage as throttle bodies on N/A where each cyclinder is pulling the air in it needs where it may have been robbed of some in a single TB setup. Few other advantages to
9. shaggers_saxvtr Established Member Joined: May 2006 Ashford United Kingdom (England) Posts: 1443 Saxo VTR/S, Mk1 Cortina, Jaguar XJS Convertible et

   #9 1st March 2007, 12:15

   I dont know the ins and outs about it but, if you can do it, I'll sure be impressed
10. GrantW Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 Near Glasgow Posts: 3362 None...

    #10 1st March 2007, 12:25

    I was wondering this also, so is it easier to set bodies up with a supercharger?
11. turbo_dave Infrequent Poster Joined: Jan 2007 Down south Posts: 105 E36 M3 3.0 & 2.1 Mondeo w/Eaton M62

    #11 1st March 2007, 12:35

    Only if it's a centrepetal charger like the Rotrex. Using a twin screw positive displacement blower lands you in a whole world of hurt.
    
    Makes no difference what's providing the positive manifold pressure really. You're gaining better and more immediate throttle response due to being able to more accurately control the 'slug' of air closer to the inlet valve than you can with a single TB and a plenum.
    
    Only tricky bit is getting the throttle balanced, which seems to be a downfall for most people...
12. Bri_vtr Regular Poster Joined: Nov 2006 Bonnyrigg/Edinburgh Posts: 255 Blue Saxo VTR

    #12 1st March 2007, 14:19

    I'd like to see this mate, ill be impressed also!
13. VTS_16v_Boy Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2006 Dartford Kent Posts: 5251 Pug 1007 HDi Sport (daily) / Abarth 500

    #13 1st March 2007, 14:55

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by james-c2-vtr-turbo hi do you think it is a good ider to put throttle body on a turbo car because i am thinking about puting so on my turbo vtr? is there any one selling some? what about R1 OR CBR600 THROTTLE BODYS??? thanks

    So I take it at present (from your name ant the nature of the question) your already running a blower on the 16v C2 lump.
    
    Pictures of the engine bay and type of kit already fitted may help people to work out whatelse can be done to the engine your running at present.
    
    
    
    If your already blown, better intercoolers and better placement of the induction system could see a better pound for pony gain, again pictures would help
14. CampDavid Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2006 Bedford Posts: 7457 Saxo VTS Peugeot 306 GTI-6 Astra SRI

    #14 1st March 2007, 15:00

    TBs on boddies is becoming a better move. I know of a chap who bought a set of boddies just last weekend for £500. Fitting is a piece of piss and if you had a top mapper on it the gains would be worth it if you're already throwing that much at charging your engine. Not worth it if you've already set it up though and are planning no other changes
15. super_moo Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2007 Hinckly Posts: 100 MK2 red VTR

    #15 1st March 2007, 16:05

    How much are throttle bodies? and what modifcations to a virtually standard engine would have to happen if any? how much performance would be gained from a throttle body on m mk2 vtr?
16. bullit Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2005 e-hollywood Posts: 17160 toyata hilux

    #16 1st March 2007, 16:58

    bodies and all the rest of it your looking around 3 or more grand
17. CampDavid Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2006 Bedford Posts: 7457 Saxo VTS Peugeot 306 GTI-6 Astra SRI

    #17 1st March 2007, 17:02

    You're looking at £1500 before mapping and are only worth it on VTS's with lairy as fuck cams
18. james-c2-vtr-turbo Newbie Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 22

    #18 1st March 2007, 17:22

    thanks for your comments on this my mate is selling some you c for £150 with the manifold and thay have been tested and thay are all OK will get some pictures of them when i fit them to the car and i will put them on to show you all how it is going thanks james
19. stiffler69 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2006 North East Posts: 5289

    #19 1st March 2007, 20:20

    Appologies for my first comments in this thread i was a bit rude and didnt really understand if this was something that could be done seems i upset someone sorry guys
20. VTRcraig Regular Poster Joined: Feb 2008 coventry Posts: 275 black and silver race car vtr, many saxo projects

    #20 12th November 2008, 20:54

    go for it, will be awesome!
21. Mysticp Scotland Joined: Jul 2005 Edinburgh Posts: 9556 Saxo 1.6i 16v VTS, 2 Classic Minis

    #21 12th November 2008, 21:01

    Dude WTF check the dates of all these threads!? March 2007.