GTI 6 calipers

  1. Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2007 cumbria uk Posts: 812 white saxo VTS
    #1
    right my mate has some gti brake discs groved and drilled will the fit my saxo VTS x reg or will i need to buy some new calipers plz could someone shed any light on to this for me as i have not got a clue
  2. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 aylesbury buckinghamshire Posts: 4822 Astra Turbo, saxo vts, punto turbo
    #2
    if there gti 6 283mm discs then they wont fit u need to put gti6 calieprs on it , saxo standard calipers use 247mm discs
  3. Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2007 cumbria uk Posts: 812 white saxo VTS
    #3
    ok mate thanks. your pal willims has not got any gti 6 brake kits so i am gona have to look elce where for them as my brakes are poor at the min. would normal saxo drilled and groved discs be as good as the gti 6 set up or no way near as good??
  4. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 aylesbury buckinghamshire Posts: 4822 Astra Turbo, saxo vts, punto turbo
    #4
    no where near as good, the drilled and groved helps stop brake fade as it lets the build up of gasses escape, the gti6 brakes are bigger giving more surface area for the pads to bit onto with each wheel rotation. the gti6 setup is v good for the money, i sold a set last week
  5. Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2007 cumbria uk Posts: 812 white saxo VTS
    #5
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by stevenet15 View Post
    no where near as good, the drilled and groved helps stop brake fade as it lets the build up of gasses escape, the gti6 brakes are bigger giving more surface area for the pads to bit onto with each wheel rotation. the gti6 setup is v good for the money, i sold a set last week
    if you get another set ill have them of ya mate thats if i havent already got some by then mate il have a kit of ya what about these i am now thinking of buying these then some calipers from scrapy

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/306-GTi-6-405-...QQcmdZViewItem
  6. Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2007 cumbria uk Posts: 812 white saxo VTS
    #6
    or should i wait till you or ya mate gets some in stock
  7. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 aylesbury buckinghamshire Posts: 4822 Astra Turbo, saxo vts, punto turbo
    #7
    link dont work
  8. Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2007 cumbria uk Posts: 812 white saxo VTS
    #8
    the link again http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/306-GTi-6-405-...QQcmdZViewItem
  9. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 aylesbury buckinghamshire Posts: 4822 Astra Turbo, saxo vts, punto turbo
    #9
    yeah they look like good disks riggsy on here is getting some i think. you can get them and get the calipers from a scrappy if ur lucky enough to find some or williamsvts can sell u the setup with out discs
  10. Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2007 cumbria uk Posts: 812 white saxo VTS
    #10
    williamsvts has not got any he pmed me 2 day saying he has not got any. what do the calipers go for at scrapys also are they the same size at the rear chears for all the help matey
  11. Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2007 cumbria uk Posts: 812 white saxo VTS
    #11
    trying to rep you for all the help but will not let me must of reped you not too long ago
  12. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 aylesbury buckinghamshire Posts: 4822 Astra Turbo, saxo vts, punto turbo
    #12
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by chrismurra View Post
    williamsvts has not got any he pmed me 2 day saying he has not got any. what do the calipers go for at scrapys also are they the same size at the rear chears for all the help matey

    there 247mm on the rears, calipers sell for allsorts of prices depending on the scrap yard some are cheap but most want a bomb nower days, plus like i say there not all that easy to get the 283mm ones well nor round the scrapys around here anyway. thanks for trying with the rep
  13. Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2007 cumbria uk Posts: 812 white saxo VTS
    #13
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by stevenet15 View Post
    there 247mm on the rears, calipers sell for allsorts of prices depending on the scrap yard some are cheap but most want a bomb nower days, plus like i say there not all that easy to get the 283mm ones well nor round the scrapys around here anyway. thanks for trying with the rep
    so the rear discs are 247 mm. well just borght the discs of ebay so if you come across any calipers let me know plz mate. what is standard saxo vts disc size smaller??? than 247mm. if you reply tonight ill check back with yous all 2 moz as im up at 5am go goodnight any1 who is viewing
  14. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 aylesbury buckinghamshire Posts: 4822 Astra Turbo, saxo vts, punto turbo
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by chrismurra View Post
    so the rear discs are 247 mm. well just borght the discs of ebay so if you come across any calipers let me know plz mate. what is standard saxo vts disc size smaller??? than 247mm. if you reply tonight ill check back with yous all 2 moz as im up at 5am go goodnight any1 who is viewing
    gti6 front: 283mm
    gti6 rear: 247mm

    saxo front: 247mm
    saxo rear: 247mm
  15. Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2007 Mid Wales Posts: 443 saxo vts mk2
    #15
    pointless upgrading rear then?
  16. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 aylesbury buckinghamshire Posts: 4822 Astra Turbo, saxo vts, punto turbo
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jas16v View Post
    pointless upgrading rear then?
    yeah no point, i got gti6 rears on mine but htas only coz my saxo ones nipples snapped. my car is now complete gti6 setup including master cylinder
  17. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2006 Bedford Posts: 7457 Saxo VTS Peugeot 306 GTI-6 Astra SRI
    #17
    I'm pretty sure the rears are exactly the same on both. And no, not overly worth bothering with an upgrade, though some ally twin pots would shave a bit of unsprung weight off for the truely hardcore
  18. Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2007 cumbria uk Posts: 812 white saxo VTS
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by stevenet15 View Post
    gti6 front: 283mm
    gti6 rear: 247mm

    saxo front: 247mm
    saxo rear: 247mm
    so am i right in thinking that i would only need to buy front gti 6 calipers
    to go with the discs i have just bought??? the standard rear calipers will be fine on the new discs?
  19. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 aylesbury buckinghamshire Posts: 4822 Astra Turbo, saxo vts, punto turbo
    #19
    yeah thats right mate
  20. Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2007 cumbria uk Posts: 812 white saxo VTS
    #20
    chears pal i shall be on the look out for some front gti 6 calipers at the weekend thanks for all the help everyone
  21. Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2007 Mid Wales Posts: 443 saxo vts mk2
    #21
    any pictures of the gti-6 brakes behind vts wheels? bet they luge huuuuuuuuuuuuuge!
  22. Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2007 cumbria uk Posts: 812 white saxo VTS
    #22
    does it matter what age gti6 i get the calipers off coz there is two versions 1997-2001 will this 1 be ok
  23. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2006 West Sussex Posts: 6280 Mk2 Saxo Vts
    #23
    Would have thought so but not 100% sure?
  24. Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2007 cumbria uk Posts: 812 white saxo VTS
    #24
    yer there is phase 1/2/3
  25. Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2007 cumbria uk Posts: 812 white saxo VTS
    #25
    what other calipers will fit my saxo vts 283mm disc set up only gti 6
  26. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2006 West Sussex Posts: 6280 Mk2 Saxo Vts
    #26
    I know there is a phase 1,2 and 3 lol

    Have a search its been talked about before!
  27. Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2007 cumbria uk Posts: 812 white saxo VTS
    #27
    can not find anything
  28. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2006 West Sussex Posts: 6280 Mk2 Saxo Vts
    #28
    Pm stevenet15 he will know.
  29. Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2007 cumbria uk Posts: 812 white saxo VTS
    #29
    thanks
  30. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2006 Bedford Posts: 7457 Saxo VTS Peugeot 306 GTI-6 Astra SRI
    #30
    All are the same. Thought you could run GTI-6 brake disks on saxxo calipers and pads?
  31. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 aylesbury buckinghamshire Posts: 4822 Astra Turbo, saxo vts, punto turbo
    #31
    as far as i am aware there are two types of gti6 calipers, there are lucas type and ATE type, they both run 283mm discs but the calipers are slightly different from what i have read. the lucas ones were on the earlier ones from 1997-1999 and the ate were genrally on the later 1999-2001 ones. i have seem many gti6 cars and work/striped a load of them but i have yet to see a set of ATE ones as they have allways been lucas on the ones i have seen
  32. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2005 somewhere on this planet, doing something..... around northumberland or in the middle of the sea Posts: 8774 Mk2 VTS track mk1 turbo vts scooby engined 2CV
    #32
    im not sure if some of the bigger 307 HDIs use the same caliper as the 306 gti-6, i know the 206 gt 180 setup is very similar and the discs are the same size, so the calipers will be compatible. was size calipers and discs are on the 2l 406 coupes??
  33. Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2007 cumbria uk Posts: 812 white saxo VTS
    #33
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by CampDavid View Post
    All are the same. Thought you could run GTI-6 brake disks on saxxo calipers and pads?
    is this true can you run 283mm disks with standard vts calipers
  34. Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2007 cumbria uk Posts: 812 white saxo VTS
    #34
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by boz View Post
    im not sure if some of the bigger 307 HDIs use the same caliper as the 306 gti-6, i know the 206 gt 180 setup is very similar and the discs are the same size, so the calipers will be compatible. was size calipers and discs are on the 2l 406 coupes??
    so if i happend to find 206 gt 180 calipers they wood fit my saxo and work with my gti6 brake discs plz let me know as i cannot find any gti6 calipers anywhere.

    also what about the 307 1.6l xsara vts wood these calipers work too??
  35. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2005 somewhere on this planet, doing something..... around northumberland or in the middle of the sea Posts: 8774 Mk2 VTS track mk1 turbo vts scooby engined 2CV
    #35
    you can run gti 180 calipers with 306 gti-6 discs as the discs are the same size, but finding a set of gti 180 discs will be hard to. the are bigger than the standard 206 gti calipers.

    dont quote me on this but i think the 2l HDI 307 has the same calipers or at least disc size as the gti-6 and 206 gt 180 calipers. but dont take it as gospel lol
  36. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2006 West Sussex Posts: 6280 Mk2 Saxo Vts
    #36
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by chrismurra View Post
    is this true can you run 283mm disks with standard vts calipers
    Surely not?

    More to the point why would you?
  37. Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2007 cumbria uk Posts: 812 white saxo VTS
    #37
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by riggsy View Post
    Surely not?

    More to the point why would you?
    just asking coz i do not have a clue i will try to find some 206 gti 180 calipers as i cannot find any gti 6 calipers anywhere
  38. Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 138 Mint red 99 VTR
    #38
    After doing a bit of research on this it seems like there is a lot of vehicles that you will be able to get either 266mm or 283mm discs (and therefore calipers) off.

    Have a look at:

    www.apec-braking.co.uk

    Look through cars in the citroen and peugeot range that ran 266 or 283mm discs, then you will be able to see which cars ran the brakes you want.
  39. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi
    #39
    i have there catalouge in the house.
  40. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi
    #40
    you can run gti 180 calipers with 306 gti-6 discs as the discs are the same size, but finding a set of gti 180 discs will be hard to. the are bigger than the standard 206 gti calipers.

    dont quote me on this but i think the 2l HDI 307 has the same calipers or at least disc size as the gti-6 and 206 gt 180 calipers. but dont take it as gospel lol

    you cant, gti180 and gti6 discs are a different thickness and offset.
    all 307 283mm brakes are teh same as gti180 but gti6 is different.
  41. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi
    #41
    there are many different discs sizes offsets and pad variations so you cannot just mix and match them. only some are compatable. you cant always go off pad either as the 1 variation of the 206 gti 266mm uses the same pad as the 307 283mm.

    all 307s 1.6 + above use the 283mm brakes.