Supercharged or Turbo'd

3rd March 2007, 19:23

What do think would be the best?

Price / Power / Reliability / Overall performance

Also does anyone know any good Saxo tuning companies? Other than GMC

3rd March 2007, 19:28

here you go mate,,

http://www.saxperience.com/faq/show-...e.php?artid=93

lee.

3rd March 2007, 19:36

Nice first post sir

Alot of this will come down to personal taste as there is quite a diffence between htese two blown options.

Turbocharging is more common placed these days as its a much simpler way of producing power from a engine by simply putting a compressor driven by turbo gases to suck more air in to make the car goe faster - but the compessor has to have a certain amount of pressure before power is available to use ie on boost.

Where as Supercharging is driven by the crank and there by as soon as the engine is turning power is on tap and doesnt suffer from turbo lag or being off boost, but sometime supercharges need a small amount of power to add mower as the crank has to turn the supercharger to create boost. Not so important on small engines but they reckon on the Mclaren SLR that the supercharger need 100bhp just to work!

A supercharger will never be able to creat the same amount of power as a turbocharger.

Because of the amount of heat a turbocharger generates turbo conversions can sometimes be slightly less reliable than a supercharger conversion as the supercharger is powered by the engine and not the exhaust gases.

Both kits give extra torque which is more important than BHP as extra torque will make the car pull harder and generally make the car more useable, if you just increased bhp then all you would do is sit there in a cloud of smoke while the driven tyres just spin.

As for companies - Carworx, Jam-Sport, Cituning and GMC all do turbochrager kits while just a few offer supercharger kits.

Personally Id rather go supercharged due to no turbo lag and no heat related problems.

For either turbocharger or supercharger kits your looking around the £4000 mark

3rd March 2007, 19:37

ot of the above, id go supercharger. will have power throughout the rev range rather than all at once like a turbo
you could run the boost lower so would be more reliable but still shit of a stick, prob less wheel spin unless have lsd.
money wise depends what you can get your hands on. you could prob collect the parts second hand for around 2 grand otherwise new 5k ish fitted.

3rd March 2007, 23:22

i agree, Supercharged engines are the way forward imo! but if you can decide, go with both lol!! a Turbo and Supercharged Saxo would be mint, and its never been done before!

3rd March 2007, 23:27

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Originally Posted by S34MER

i agree, Supercharged engines are the way forward imo! but if you can decide, go with both lol!! a Turbo and Supercharged Saxo would be mint, and its never been done before!

The gadgetry to get the two working efficiently together would be a nightmare though! respect if some nut case does it.

3rd March 2007, 23:31

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Originally Posted by adsayer

The gadgetry to get the two working efficiently together would be a nightmare though! respect if some nut case does it.

dp in holland did it to a 1.4 xu engine'd 206, just to showcase their skills I think but impressive nonetheless. Off the top of my head the supercharger works on a clutch system whereby it disengages when the turbo kicks in (i seem to remember reading the clutch for this was robbed from an office air-con unit).

3rd March 2007, 23:31

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Originally Posted by adsayer

The gadgetry to get the two working efficiently together would be a nightmare though! respect if some nut case does it.

Ads, you must know a few geeks, that would give it ago though?!

3rd March 2007, 23:32

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Originally Posted by Sean

dp in holland did it to a 1.4 xu engine'd 206, just to showcase their skills I think but impressive nonetheless. Off the top of my head the supercharger works on a clutch system whereby it disengages when the turbo kicks in (i seem to remember reading the clutch for this was robbed from an office air-con unit).

was that not TWIN SUPERCHARGED?? didn't think it had a Turbo in there?

3rd March 2007, 23:35

It has 2 turbos and a supercharger

http://www.dp-engineering.nl/EN/projects/twinturbo.php

3rd March 2007, 23:37

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Originally Posted by S34MER

Ads, you must know a few geeks, that would give it ago though?!

There are a few goons who do formula student but the engine cant have forced induction. otherwise I think there could have been a possibility

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean

dp in holland did it to a 1.4 xu engine'd 206, just to showcase their skills I think but impressive nonetheless. Off the top of my head the supercharger works on a clutch system whereby it disengages when the turbo kicks in (i seem to remember reading the clutch for this was robbed from an office air-con unit).

interesting stuff sean! ta for the info

3rd March 2007, 23:38

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Originally Posted by Sean

http://www.dp-engineering.nl/EN/projects/twinturbo.php

fuck me that is genious!

4th March 2007, 14:17

Im sure Alpina where messing around with SuperCharger TurboCharger hybrids not that long ago in 7series

4th March 2007, 14:27

Twin Turbo & Supercharged - Tight squeeze into that engine bay..

After a few days of google madness ive decided to go with turbo - Mainly because it seems the most common (which means ive got more chance of getting contacts).

Although not cheap, although the kit may be around 4 - 5k, id have to get a stronger gearbox & remap the ECU at the same time.