Fitting a Turbo: ie, who can do it?

1. FILVTR Regular Poster Joined: Oct 2006 Manchester Posts: 440 VTR '52.

   #1 9th March 2007, 14:45

   Got an opportunity to get a Turbo Kit fitted onto the VTR.
   
   Included is
   Turbo in MINT condition
   Intercooler
   Oil Cooler
   Turbo Manifold
   Oil Cooler Pipes
   Pipe work
   Boost pipes
   Bends
   
   All I need is a downpipe. What else do I need and is there anyone that could fit it for me? Gonna run it at low boost and try to avoid stripping the engine for forged pistons for now.
   
   Called a few motorsport companies who quoted £2000 for fitting (modifying the engine block to run a pipe in there from turbo that apparently doesn't exist now?? also said it will take over a week)
   
   I'm a newbie for turbos, so need help/advice in what will be needed and who can help[ me out with it.
2. woodsy Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2006 area 51, navada desert Posts: 2809 mk1 1998 silver saxo vts

   #2 9th March 2007, 14:52

   i live in manc so can help you out ...
   
   not done a turbo myself but know the engine very well
3. stevenet15 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 aylesbury buckinghamshire Posts: 4822 Astra Turbo, saxo vts, punto turbo

   #3 9th March 2007, 14:53

   you will still need to lower the compression ratio, its done by either using a doubleheadgasket/compression plate or using forged pistons, with forged being the best route. After that u will need to supply the extra air in the engine with more fuel, this can be done by either fitting bigger injectors/remap or by fitting a MF2 with extra injector and sigcon
4. FILVTR Regular Poster Joined: Oct 2006 Manchester Posts: 440 VTR '52.

   #4 9th March 2007, 15:51

   Any costings on that Stevenet? Quoted over a grand for forged pistons
   
   Also, Woodsy, thanks for that, I may just be PM'ing you if I definately go with this.
5. stevenet15 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 aylesbury buckinghamshire Posts: 4822 Astra Turbo, saxo vts, punto turbo

   #5 9th March 2007, 16:04

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by FILVTR Any costings on that Stevenet? Quoted over a grand for forged pistons Also, Woodsy, thanks for that, I may just be PM'ing you if I definately go with this.

   here is a rough price:
   
   double headgasket ( made of 2 single headgaskets )- £120
   
   or
   
   heagasket - £60
   decompression plate - £90 (http://www.ferriday.co.uk/)
   
   or
   
   forged pistons £600
   
   then for fueling
   
   MF2 - £200
   Sigcon - £250
   injector £60
   2 bar map sensor - £80
   
   after u fitted it al u will need to get the fueling fine tuned on a rolling road at £40-£50 per hour
6. landy Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 south elmsall Posts: 5147 cammed vtr

   #6 9th March 2007, 16:07

   i no a guy that will fit it for u mate hes based in wakefield
7. FILVTR Regular Poster Joined: Oct 2006 Manchester Posts: 440 VTR '52.

   #7 9th March 2007, 16:27

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by landy i no a guy that will fit it for u mate hes based in wakefield

   How much approx would he charge?
   
   Does he work for a garage, or one of your mates?
8. Ste Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 Yorkshire Posts: 5415 Saxo

   #8 9th March 2007, 16:30

   Im in wakey so when you get it done drop me an email please mate, tell me what its like etc
   
   I was going to fit myself but i think i need to get someone else to do it so i dont fuck it up
9. FILVTR Regular Poster Joined: Oct 2006 Manchester Posts: 440 VTR '52.

   #9 9th March 2007, 16:51

   Will do mate.
   
   Reeeeally want one now, may get the kit, then buy the bits i need bit-by-bit, then put it in when got everything and saved for everything I need and fitting.
   
   Don't mind a non-garage person doing it as long as they know what they're doing - cos I definately don't. I'll start a prgress thread on fitting it all together when I do though.
   
   Do I need a remap and fueling altered etc? The kit's come off a VTR and guy says it works without a remap, is this right?
10. stevenet15 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 aylesbury buckinghamshire Posts: 4822 Astra Turbo, saxo vts, punto turbo

    #10 9th March 2007, 16:55

    it will work without a remap but the air/fuel ratio will be wrong so you can kiss your pistons goodbye, what pressure was he running it at?
11. FILVTR Regular Poster Joined: Oct 2006 Manchester Posts: 440 VTR '52.

    #11 9th March 2007, 16:59

    No idea, wil find out tonight and let you know
12. nassso Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 187

    #12 9th March 2007, 18:02

    Say goodbye to your gearbox
13. Ste Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 Yorkshire Posts: 5415 Saxo

    #13 9th March 2007, 19:23

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by nassso Say goodbye to your gearbox

    And tyres...
    
    But worth it
14. Tobs Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2005 London Posts: 3416

    #14 9th March 2007, 20:29

    they are alot of hassle
    
    Place called AET turbos i think they fit
    
    duno where they are tho
15. axsaxoman Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2003 Scotland Posts: 3380

    #15 9th March 2007, 20:47

    forged pistons are £400=VAT WHILE STOCKS LAST
    use 2 mls h/gaskets instead of decomp plate --will be cheaper and better
16. boz Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2005 somewhere on this planet, doing something..... around northumberland or in the middle of the sea Posts: 8774 Mk2 VTS track mk1 turbo vts scooby engined 2CV

    #16 9th March 2007, 23:20

    you can fit it yourself if you are handy with the spanners. the part that needs to be done correctly is the mapping, otherwise its bye bye engine lol
    
    i fitted my supercharger kit into the car in a day and a half, only thing i didnt do was the mapping.
    
    but paying a pro to do it for you, will mean that its done correctly. may cost a few quid but its peace of mind.
    
    only places i would go to would be GMC or carworx.
    
    but you will need bigger brakes, maybe 206 gti or 306 gti-6 setups, a better uprated clutch maybe helix or AP racing. i have an AP racing twin plate clutch, it can handle a load of stick and power but takes a lot of getting used to using it lol
    
    the helix setup is supost to be easier.
    
    boosting your car can lead to all sorts of problems, but is well worth it in the long run and will always make you smile .
    
    as the boss man Simo the problems that he has had, no better role model than him.
17. Andy_K Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2004 in the garage trying to fix the car Posts: 5882 Mondeo st tdci & Supercharged vts

    #17 10th March 2007, 23:07

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tobs they are alot of hassle Place called AET turbos i think they fit duno where they are tho

    AET are in normanton, just outside wakefield. Good bunch of blokes there
18. tweeqd Established Member Joined: Mar 2006 Farnham Surrey Posts: 1542 AX GT 16v turbo 6 speed with NOS 205 gti6 E 320

    #18 11th March 2007, 18:10

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by nassso Say goodbye to your gearbox

    not if you drive properly