Extra power from stripping out vts

1. DanT Established Member Joined: Feb 2007 P'boro Posts: 1619 R27 Clio

   #1 14th March 2007, 21:23

   How much power can be gained from doing this? And by that i mean not going too mad and taking the front door cards off, i still want some sense of welcome when i get into the car.
   
   But for example, everything in the back of the car could come out, but how much is there to get out aside from the obvious rear seats. Any idea how much difference i makes or if it is even worth doing at all??
   
   Many many thanks...
2. Baz Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2005 Coventry Posts: 17782 Fiesta ST150

   #2 14th March 2007, 21:26

   you'll gain no power, if you take enough out will notice it seems a little quicker when accel' as there is less weight
3. S34MER East Midlands Joined: Jun 2006 Derby Posts: 8305 Skoda Fabia VRS

   #3 14th March 2007, 21:31

   baz is spot on!
   
   Dan, why did you think you would get any power gains!? lol
   
   
   it will deffo be quicker if you strip it completely, i.e doorcards, rear seats, parcel shelf, carpets, roof lining, dash, etc
4. Jackman Saxperience Addict Joined: Sep 2006 Bridgend, South Wales Posts: 11234 iTB 205 Rallye, 205 STDT.

   #4 14th March 2007, 21:39

   wont get any 'power gains' may see a difference in accel. like stated above.
   
   i would never do it personally. not only do i think it looks crap. its not practical for me.
5. Barry123 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS

   #5 14th March 2007, 21:59

   power-to-weight will improve
6. riggsy Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2006 West Sussex Posts: 6280 Mk2 Saxo Vts

   #6 15th March 2007, 02:45

   ^^ hes right it will, it will FEEL much quicker
   
   Its good fun even more so round corners haha!
7. MaRiO89 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7705 Saxo VTS

   #7 15th March 2007, 10:03

   Defo worth doing as it looks mint aswell as making your car slightly quicker, its all about power to weight ratio's so the lighter you can get the car, the quicker she'll go.
8. djrem Saxperience Addict Joined: Feb 2007 Ramsden Bellhouse (Billericay) Posts: 12826 Various.

   #8 15th March 2007, 10:23

   i wouldnt recommend it
   
   my shopping would roll about.
   
   Plus im a style whore.
   
   Cant get eggs on my leather
9. SAM33R Established Member Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 2139 DIABLO RED 106 GTI E36 M3 EVO

   #9 15th March 2007, 10:39

   i would just love it if you could simply take the steering wheel off and add an extra 0.5 bhp lol
10. VTS_16v_Boy Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2006 Dartford Kent Posts: 5251 Pug 1007 HDi Sport (daily) / Abarth 500

    #10 15th March 2007, 10:42

    How far do wana go? is really the answer.
    
    It stands to reason that with less weight the car will pull slightly better and driven sensably your use less petrol as your pullin less weight around.
    
    Stripin out interior and other bits here and there will improve the cars 0-60mph and pick up and generall accelration - Your see more gains the further you go.
    
    Back Seats, Parcel Shelf, Rear carpet and sound deading and rear door cards will be a very good step some people also chooce to remove the Spare wheel and cage under the car - I removed the cage but kept the spare just incase and put it inside. See below
    
    
    
    Others have gone further, Front door cards, front carpet (mines going in the summer), Lower centre console, Change to lighter Bucket seats and even headlining - Look to people like Bullit for extreme stripin but its all a case of how sparse due wana live with
11. MaRiO89 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7705 Saxo VTS

    #11 15th March 2007, 10:45

    
    
    Give it some of that treatment!
12. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #12 15th March 2007, 11:37

    a couple on ssc have even removed dash, poly windows and even removed wiring that isnt needed.
13. spencer_cammedvts Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2005 MEASHAM United Kingdom (England) Posts: 3445 257bhp Ibiza Cupra Turbo

    #13 15th March 2007, 12:30

    iv found that with my back end stripped, the front of the car acts like a pivot and when you chuck it into corners you have to be ready with a quarter of oposite lock as the back end slides around quite easily!
14. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

    #14 15th March 2007, 12:35

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by williamsvts a couple on ssc have even removed dash, poly windows and even removed wiring that isnt needed.

    I went that far on my 205 Rallye, Got it to under 700 kgs and it was as fast around the track as the Gti's. Not bad for a 1.4
    
    Less weight benifits everything, accelleration, braking and cornering.
    
    My new car is going to be as light when finished with 3 times as much power which should be good around the track.
15. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

    #15 15th March 2007, 12:37

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by spencer_cammedvts iv found that with my back end stripped, the front of the car acts like a pivot and when you chuck it into corners you have to be ready with a quarter of oposite lock as the back end slides around quite easily!

    That is due to the weight transfer under braking and the appaulling F/R weight ratio. You can tweak the suspension to limit this.
16. Karl Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26

    #16 15th March 2007, 12:50

    VTS 16v Boys a ghey though, he has taken his seats out, but put a jack that weighs 10 x more in the back
17. shawty Regular Poster Joined: May 2006 beverley, hull Posts: 327 saxo vtr

    #17 15th March 2007, 12:53

    james bristol is that your car? interior srayed white looks awesome this might be next on my list, wonder if i could diy it!???
18. Karl Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26

    #18 15th March 2007, 12:54

    shawty, use a rattle can
    
    im sure it would look very attractive
19. SAM33R Established Member Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 2139 DIABLO RED 106 GTI E36 M3 EVO

    #19 15th March 2007, 14:18

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by spencer_cammedvts iv found that with my back end stripped, the front of the car acts like a pivot and when you chuck it into corners you have to be ready with a quarter of oposite lock as the back end slides around quite easily!

    sounds about right mate as the weight and friction is all focus at the front and besides your pushing 146 bhp through your wheels so dont blame ya lol
20. Tobs Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2005 London Posts: 3416

    #20 15th March 2007, 14:23

    no power gains just less weight = less drag on the engine
21. Barry123 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS

    #21 15th March 2007, 14:26

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tobs no power gains just less weight = less drag on the engine

    not quite dude, i but i know what you meant to say...
    
    Recall GCSE science...
    
    Force = Mass * Acceleration.
    
    Rearranging...
    
    Acceleration = Force/Mass
    
    Force is the engine
    Mass is the car's mass
    Acceleration is... you've guessed it
    
    So reducing your mass increases tha acceleration.
22. MaRiO89 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7705 Saxo VTS

    #22 15th March 2007, 14:54

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by shawty james bristol is that your car? interior srayed white looks awesome this might be next on my list, wonder if i could diy it!???

    Yeah its mine mate, i diy'd with hammerite on a brush, few brush marks but actually looks good, proper slag style!