FAO people who have uprated to the 306gti6 setup...

1. riggsy Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2006 West Sussex Posts: 6280 Mk2 Saxo Vts

   #1 15th March 2007, 18:27

   How much difference are they over standard, so say theres a mega difference where as some say you wont see gains unless you uprate the master cylinder to the 306 one aswell?
   
   So far i have the 306 gti6 setup, brand new standard pads and 283mm grooved and drilled discs.
   
   Sould i go for the master cylinder aswell? Stevenet15 has and he has told me they are much more sharper and you dont have to press the pedal half way before that start to come on....
   
   Just want some feedback please
2. bullit Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2005 e-hollywood Posts: 17160 toyata hilux

   #2 15th March 2007, 18:30

   dont think its improve much, just fell better on the pedal. 4 pots
3. Mark51p Super Moderator Joined: Sep 2006 Wakefield Posts: 14427 Golf GT

   #3 15th March 2007, 18:32

   i got some 266mm set up from Stevenet15 and got them fitted today and they are miles better than the standard ones, however i do have rear drums
4. riggsy Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2006 West Sussex Posts: 6280 Mk2 Saxo Vts

   #4 15th March 2007, 18:35

   I had the 266mm setup on my vtr with uprated discs, was better but not by much!
   
   I didnt realy want to uprate the damn master cylinder but if the pedal needs pressing half way even with uprated hoses i think i better right?
   
   More fucking about though grrr!
5. bullit Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2005 e-hollywood Posts: 17160 toyata hilux

   #5 15th March 2007, 18:36

   so youve not fitted the 283mm discs yet
6. riggsy Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2006 West Sussex Posts: 6280 Mk2 Saxo Vts

   #6 15th March 2007, 18:38

   No and it was a good job i didnt fit it yet after hearing that!
7. Barry123 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS

   #7 15th March 2007, 19:41

   well jumped out of mine and then jumped into Matt's
   
   And by-christ the difference is very very noticable.
8. stevenet15 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 aylesbury buckinghamshire Posts: 4822 Astra Turbo, saxo vts, punto turbo

   #8 15th March 2007, 20:15

   i had my 283mm gti6 brakes with standard hoses on my vts and the pedal length was appauling i had to push it almost half way before it even started to brake. fitted a 23.8mm master cylinder and jesus did it make a different i hardly have to even touch the pedal now so i recommend anyone that upgrades over 266mm to get one
9. Mark51p Super Moderator Joined: Sep 2006 Wakefield Posts: 14427 Golf GT

   #9 15th March 2007, 22:10

   my pedal now only has to be half way down and ive nearly stopped
10. Cupra-Craig Established Member Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 1979

    #10 15th March 2007, 23:04

    I have 206 gti 180 brakes an feel great. But where could i get one of these master cylinders from an what they off?
11. stevenet15 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 aylesbury buckinghamshire Posts: 4822 Astra Turbo, saxo vts, punto turbo

    #11 15th March 2007, 23:09

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by GOD106GTI I have 206 gti 180 brakes an feel great. But where could i get one of these master cylinders from an what they off?

    off a 306 gti6 there 23.8mm and u can get them on some 406s. normal saxo/106 master cylinder is 22mm
12. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #12 15th March 2007, 23:19

    mine was fine when i ran the 283mm brakes on standard MC, a bigger mc would of helped though.
    it isnt much work to change MC either.
13. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #13 15th March 2007, 23:20

    only vts/gti MC is 22mm.
    
    gti180 gti6 307s 406s have bigger MC. loads of cars.
14. Cupra-Craig Established Member Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 1979

    #14 15th March 2007, 23:29

    Where best an cheapest place to get one from then? an what price?
15. Jay_VTR Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2006 Devizes, Wiltshire Posts: 750 Black VT. Slag. Black S1 Rallye. Clio 172 Cup.

    #15 15th March 2007, 23:32

    I have jsut bought some gti-180 brakes for mine. Think im gunna fit them and see how it goes. And if im not happy with them, i will uprate to a gt-6 mc.
16. stevenet15 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 aylesbury buckinghamshire Posts: 4822 Astra Turbo, saxo vts, punto turbo

    #16 15th March 2007, 23:33

    there about £15-£20 on ebay, u need to use the saxo resivior & seals on it, the gti6 res fits but its dam close to the bonnet cehck the pics of the gti6 res on it, the saxo one is easy to swap over jsut pop the two seals out with a flat headed screwdriver
    
    

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by stevenet15

17. Gabbastard Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2002 United Kingdom Posts: 8390

    #17 16th March 2007, 01:28

    I didnt find the pedal travel too bad on the standard MC, but I imagine part of that is personal preference.
18. riggsy Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2006 West Sussex Posts: 6280 Mk2 Saxo Vts

    #18 16th March 2007, 04:14

    Hmm still not 100% sure what to do...
    
    Some say change it because the pedal travel is shit, it would need priming etc so its not as simple as people say.
    
    Just more fucking about isnt it!
    
    I dont want to fit the brakes and hoses then bleed it all then find that i should of uprated the mc as i will have to bleed it all again...
19. Yates Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Pompey/Darlo Posts: 31546 MK1 - 1.1 Animal

    #19 16th March 2007, 09:34

    i find that my brakes are a million times better, as ad says, even ask danny.
    
    i have the saxo mc as well
20. stevenet15 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 aylesbury buckinghamshire Posts: 4822 Astra Turbo, saxo vts, punto turbo

    #20 16th March 2007, 10:03

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by riggsy Hmm still not 100% sure what to do... Some say change it because the pedal travel is shit, it would need priming etc so its not as simple as people say. Just more fucking about isnt it! I dont want to fit the brakes and hoses then bleed it all then find that i should of uprated the mc as i will have to bleed it all again...

    to prime it all u have to do it put fluid in the resivor and pump the stalk, hardly rocket science lol
21. riggsy Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2006 West Sussex Posts: 6280 Mk2 Saxo Vts

    #21 16th March 2007, 12:07

    Shut it Steve you gay, lol yesterday on msn you realy put me off fitting it all myself, wanker! lol
    
    Fuckit i may aswell get one....
    
    Anyone got one kicking about let me know!
22. stevenet15 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 aylesbury buckinghamshire Posts: 4822 Astra Turbo, saxo vts, punto turbo

    #22 16th March 2007, 13:17

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by riggsy Shut it Steve you gay, lol yesterday on msn you realy put me off fitting it all myself, wanker! lol Fuckit i may aswell get one.... Anyone got one kicking about let me know!

    lol it all seems confusing when people tell u different things, its a shame u dont live closer coz i could have come and given u a hand doing it all
23. riggsy Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2006 West Sussex Posts: 6280 Mk2 Saxo Vts

    #23 16th March 2007, 14:06

    Too right!
    
    I fitted the 266mm setup on my old vtr, that was easy i just clamped the hoses and bled the front calipers after
    
    This should be easy as its just a case of going round four calipers instead of two making sure i near enough drain all the old fluid
    
    Ill speak to you on msn about the 306 mc and fitting matey!
24. samcook Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2005 evesham, worcs United Kingdom (England) Posts: 3813 197 cup

    #24 16th March 2007, 15:56

    i havent got a larger mc on mine and i dnt think theres much difference in the feel of the pedal just slightly longer but by hardly anything atall! and u get used to it anyway!
25. riggsy Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2006 West Sussex Posts: 6280 Mk2 Saxo Vts

    #25 16th March 2007, 15:58

    So still a good improvement over standard mate?
    
    Come one tell me more about it....
26. bullit Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2005 e-hollywood Posts: 17160 toyata hilux

    #26 16th March 2007, 16:35

    for the extra you might aswell
27. stevenet15 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 aylesbury buckinghamshire Posts: 4822 Astra Turbo, saxo vts, punto turbo

    #27 16th March 2007, 19:07

    yeah its only £20 for a 23mm mc
28. riggsy Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2006 West Sussex Posts: 6280 Mk2 Saxo Vts

    #28 16th March 2007, 19:10

    If your lucky and find one that cheap!
    
    I can get one right now but he wants £30 plus vat!
29. stevenet15 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 aylesbury buckinghamshire Posts: 4822 Astra Turbo, saxo vts, punto turbo

    #29 16th March 2007, 19:15

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by riggsy If your lucky and find one that cheap! I can get one right now but he wants £30 plus vat!

    
    i will find u one cheaper, i jsut sent a pm to some people i know that might have one, i'll pm u if they do
30. riggsy Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2006 West Sussex Posts: 6280 Mk2 Saxo Vts

    #30 16th March 2007, 19:17

    Cheers mate im still deciding on getting one anyway.
    
    But yeah if one crops up let me know asap
    
    Ps the one i have found is off a gti 6 with 67000 miles on it?