Spraying Alloys! Shopping List + Progress

1. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

   #1 16th March 2007, 22:06

   What do i need?
   
   Type of primer 500ml Cans (How Many)
   Gloss Black Paint 500ml Cans (How Many)
   Sandpaper.... What grades?
   Newspaper + Maskin Tape
   
   Halfords Sell the cans £6.29 for each primer and paint but doesnt say if its plastic primer or what
2. matty_Furio Infrequent Poster Joined: Jan 2007 Edinburgh Posts: 106 astra sxi,saxo vts

   #2 16th March 2007, 22:13

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Stevey What do i need? Type of primer 500ml Cans (How Many) Gloss Black Paint 500ml Cans (How Many) Sandpaper.... What grades? Newspaper + Maskin Tape Halfords Sell the cans £6.29 for each primer and paint but doesnt say if its plastic primer or what

   
   PLASTIC PRIMER HAS A YELLOW LID..METAL PRIMER HAS A GREY LID..DEPENDS HOW BAD YOUR ALLOYS ARE???
3. landy Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 south elmsall Posts: 5147 cammed vtr

   #3 16th March 2007, 22:13

   2 primer
   up to you how many tins of paint, but remember the more coats u put on the better the finish.
   fine sandpaper or the finest you can get
   laque????????(sp)use a tin on each wheel, then it willl be shiney as fuck
4. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

   #4 16th March 2007, 22:15

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by landy 2 primer up to you how many tins of paint, but remember the more coats u put on the better the finish. fine sandpaper or the finest you can get laque????????(sp)use a tin on each wheel, then it willl be shiney as fuck

   (sp) ?? not using laquer dont want them shiney as fuck, got some 1200 sandpaper in garage will that do? should i use rough to start?
5. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

   #5 16th March 2007, 22:15

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by matty_Furio PLASTIC PRIMER HAS A YELLOW LID..METAL PRIMER HAS A GREY LID..DEPENDS HOW BAD YOUR ALLOYS ARE???

   cheers mate
6. matty_Furio Infrequent Poster Joined: Jan 2007 Edinburgh Posts: 106 astra sxi,saxo vts

   #6 16th March 2007, 22:15

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Stevey (sp) ?? not using laquer dont want them shiney as fuck, got some 1200 sandpaper in garage will that do? should i use rough to start?

   
   YOU WILL FIND THEY WILL CHIP IF YOU DONT
7. landy Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 south elmsall Posts: 5147 cammed vtr

   #7 16th March 2007, 22:19

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Stevey (sp) ?? not using laquer dont want them shiney as fuck, got some 1200 sandpaper in garage will that do? should i use rough to start?

   so y are you using gloss black then?
   
   if you dont they will chip all the time
8. ChrisJ Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2005 Widnes United Kingdom (England) Posts: 3517 Saxo furio

   #8 16th March 2007, 22:20

   Yeah start at a rougher grade mate, and work your way upto the 1200 grade.
   
   The more different grades of sandpaper you use, the better the finish.
9. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

   #9 16th March 2007, 22:22

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by landy so y are you using gloss black then? if you dont they will chip all the time

   just got told by everyone to use gloss black as matt black will look like mud lol
   so i need to use it yeah?
10. landy Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 south elmsall Posts: 5147 cammed vtr

    #10 16th March 2007, 22:43

    yeah or i will chip the paint
11. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #11 16th March 2007, 22:46

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by landy yeah or i will chip the paint

    thats not very nice
12. beastgtir Established Member Joined: Apr 2006 birmingham Posts: 2178 Soon to be another Honda!

    #12 16th March 2007, 23:05

    Think he meant "It will chip the paint"
13. landy Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 south elmsall Posts: 5147 cammed vtr

    #13 16th March 2007, 23:09

    it will chip the paint sorry
14. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #14 16th March 2007, 23:12

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by landy it will chip the paint sorry

    i knew thats what you meant mate, not wanting wheels spectacular but will take the advice to get some laquer!
15. landy Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 south elmsall Posts: 5147 cammed vtr

    #15 16th March 2007, 23:14

    i would mate or you will be re doin them every couple off month's
16. hesslevtr Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2004 Hull (England) Posts: 18709 1.6 vtr

    #16 16th March 2007, 23:33

    i did a guide some where
    
    you want etching primer not plastic or normal primer
    
    id say maybe 2 tins of paint and laquer and maybe 1 of primer depends on how many coats you want on each wheel
    
    take they tyres off is possible it will be worth it
    
    1200 grade wet and dry to finish and make the primer smooth should do
    800 or 1000 use before that on the wheel before applying primer
17. xclairex Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2006 Sunderland United Kingdom (England) Posts: 4539 Orange VTR, 306 TD

    #17 17th March 2007, 01:47

    6.29 per tin???? thats expensive i got mine for 2.29 and primer was 2.99
18. vipergfx Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Oct 2006 Washington Posts: 3117 veeteeess

    #18 17th March 2007, 01:48

    halfords innit. nuff said.
19. Baz Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2005 Coventry Posts: 17782 Fiesta ST150

    #19 17th March 2007, 01:51

    mine have chipped due to no laquer
20. xclairex Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2006 Sunderland United Kingdom (England) Posts: 4539 Orange VTR, 306 TD

    #20 17th March 2007, 01:53

    Suppose what a rip off!
21. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #21 17th March 2007, 09:07

    think al get it from motorist bargain shop lol there £3 but 300ml. Somethings there cheap but some expensive,
    
    should i use matt or gloss black????? dont want them too shiney tbh
    
    What did you use claire
22. Dave_M Established Member Joined: Apr 2006 birmingham Posts: 1110 Mk 1 VTS

    #22 17th March 2007, 09:30

    Id use gloss if youve been told it will come out crap using matt. Then just do 1 layer of laquer. I used 3 cans maybe more of laquer on mine and they int that shiny to be honest.
    
    Used 1 n abit cans of primer. Just over 3 cans of gloss black paint and just over 3 on laquer i think.
23. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #23 17th March 2007, 09:43

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Dave_M Id use gloss if youve been told it will come out crap using matt. Then just do 1 layer of laquer. I used 3 cans maybe more of laquer on mine and they int that shiny to be honest. Used 1 n abit cans of primer. Just over 3 cans of gloss black paint and just over 3 on laquer i think.

    cheers mate, well am off to see if can get zorst sorted and get some shit priced up on way home
24. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #24 17th March 2007, 12:04

    Can get it for £3.25 a tin but claire says £2.29 near her so will investigate
25. Danr Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2006 Charming man Posts: 15880 Charming car

    #25 17th March 2007, 12:08

    if your a bit of a drive from claire you will use the saving on petrol lol!
26. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #26 17th March 2007, 13:44

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Danr if your a bit of a drive from claire you will use the saving on petrol lol!

    am passing there today on the way to pick alloys up.
27. Richardson_VTS Established Member Joined: Mar 2006 Northallerton Posts: 1672 Mini Cooper S

    #27 17th March 2007, 16:53

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Steve_VTR (sp) ?? should i use rough to start?

    No, use the finest first, then you work down, but you only want to take the shine off, then primer it, metal, because your wheels arn't plastic. then the top coat(s)
    
    
28. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #28 17th March 2007, 20:44

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Richardson_VTS No, use the finest first, then you work down, but you only want to take the shine off, then primer it, metal, because your wheels arn't plastic. then the top coat(s)

    How much sanding required, i thought when sanding use say 600 then 1200 go higher up the numbers?
    
    Anyway been using a drill with emery 120 pad or something my grandad gave me it, but cant get into the lip so just sand the shine off yeah?
    
    picked them up today some decent tyres knew one would be kurbed to fuck even though he said no kurbing at all
    
    
    
    
29. puzzledzippy Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2005 woking United Kingdom (England) Posts: 3153 audi a4 2.8 quattro sport

    #29 17th March 2007, 20:47

    Type of primer 500ml Cans (How Many) i bought 3
    Gloss Black Paint 500ml Cans (How Many) i bought 4
    Sandpaper.... What grades? i got a general pack witch goes from rough to fine
    Newspaper + Maskin Tape lots of both
30. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #30 17th March 2007, 20:52

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by puzzledzippy Type of primer 500ml Cans (How Many) i bought 3 Gloss Black Paint 500ml Cans (How Many) i bought 4 Sandpaper.... What grades? i got a general pack witch goes from rough to fine Newspaper + Maskin Tape lots of both

    
    how far do i need to sand bud? going to be up early, clean them down and get cracking with the painting!
31. puzzledzippy Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2005 woking United Kingdom (England) Posts: 3153 audi a4 2.8 quattro sport

    #31 17th March 2007, 20:54

    i didnt sand them that much just enough to get rid of all the marks and to give the wheels a good rubbing over so the paint will stick
32. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #32 17th March 2007, 21:00

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by puzzledzippy i didnt sand them that much just enough to get rid of all the marks and to give the wheels a good rubbing over so the paint will stick

    so dont need to take shine off really, just give good enough so primer could stick, as you look in the photos i am struggling to sand in down right at the edge
33. puzzledzippy Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2005 woking United Kingdom (England) Posts: 3153 audi a4 2.8 quattro sport

    #33 17th March 2007, 21:01

    the sanding in your pictures are about the same as mine when i did them
34. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #34 17th March 2007, 21:06

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by puzzledzippy the sanding in your pictures are about the same as mine when i did them

    even round the lip? had no problems with chipping or flaking? dont want them perfect but dont want them to flake apart within a couple of months
35. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #35 18th March 2007, 09:28

    right am going back out to do more sanding, am not spraying the inner of the wheel as left it dirty
    a)cant be arsed to clean it
    b)cant see it really
    c)looks black anyway
36. BENSAX3 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2006 Buckinghamshire Posts: 2700 under age

    #36 18th March 2007, 10:58

    why not mate won't tkae that much longer and will look soooo much better
37. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #37 18th March 2007, 11:05

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BENSAX3 why not mate won't tkae that much longer and will look soooo much better

    Am trying to take my time but its the same with all things, you just want to get them done and on haha
    can do it at a later date if needs be, plus place i got my cheap paint has just shut,
    
    Came to £16.25
    
    2 x White Primer
    2 x Gloss Black
    1 x Clear Laquer
    
    All 300ml
    
    Here is some progress
    
    
    
    
    
    Good Use Of Max Power Mag
    
    
    
    
    
    
    Can see where i have not fully sanded down the bubbling or filled it, i know your supposed to sand between each layer but am not looking for spectacular either so aslong as last a good few months am happy
38. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #38 18th March 2007, 11:27

    First layer of gloss black
    
    
    
    
39. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #39 18th March 2007, 11:57

    Do i have to wait for the top coat of black to be fully dry before i laquer them? as 2 are totally sprayed black and been drying for 10 mins or so now.
40. Rigz_vtr Infrequent Poster Joined: May 2006 Wigan United Kingdom (England) Posts: 106 Phase 2 VTR

    #40 18th March 2007, 13:39

    btter of leaving them 24 hours matey.
    
    I refurbed some vts rims and left the paint to fully dry/set over night
41. hesslevtr Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2004 Hull (England) Posts: 18709 1.6 vtr

    #41 18th March 2007, 13:43

    nah u dont have to wait for applying laquer
    
    do it when th paints still tacky for best results
42. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #42 18th March 2007, 15:01

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by hesslevtr nah u dont have to wait for applying laquer do it when th paints still tacky for best results

    shit, they were still a bit tacky not totally dry when i did it, as had people saying wait till dry and others saying what you said the tin said half an hour was roughly 50 mins tbh but there in a cold garage so not drying too fast.....
    
    How long do i have to wait between coats of laquer
43. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #43 18th March 2007, 15:02

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Rigz_vtr btter of leaving them 24 hours matey. I refurbed some vts rims and left the paint to fully dry/set over night

    only got 2 hours tops before i need them out the garage haha
44. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #44 18th March 2007, 15:18

    emptied the can on the wheels, check my progress thread for when i get them fitted, over and out peeps!