throttle body power gains

1. CHR15_5 Infrequent Poster Joined: Mar 2006 Washington Posts: 107 Citroen Saxo 1.4 Furio

   #1 18th March 2007, 17:35

   areet peeps, just wondering how much it would cost and what the power gains would be if my furio had throttle bodies? my mate says that the difference in power is great but that's on his vtr... the furio currently has a cat back exhuast system and a piper x induction kit, and although it is not on the car, i do have a de cat pipe that i got when i bought the peco system, which i might put on
   
   cheers
2. riggsy Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2006 West Sussex Posts: 6280 Mk2 Saxo Vts

   #2 18th March 2007, 17:43

   Ermmm just buy a vts.
   
   No point in wasting money on a furio!
   
   Your looking at 2k plus for tb's!!
3. CHR15_5 Infrequent Poster Joined: Mar 2006 Washington Posts: 107 Citroen Saxo 1.4 Furio

   #3 18th March 2007, 17:45

   would love to buy a vts but the insurance is just mad... hopefully i want to turbo and supercharge the 1.4 in time
4. riggsy Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2006 West Sussex Posts: 6280 Mk2 Saxo Vts

   #4 18th March 2007, 17:48

   I take it your not telling your insurance company about tbs then?
5. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

   #5 18th March 2007, 17:52

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by riggsy I take it your not telling your insurance company about tbs then?

   he's got you there mate, save your money would be my advice, and get a vts or vtr next year
6. bullit Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2005 e-hollywood Posts: 17160 toyata hilux

   #6 18th March 2007, 20:04

   if you can afford to body a saxo you can afford a vts and insurance
7. argylefan1985 Established Member Joined: Feb 2006 North Devon Posts: 2095 Saxo VTR mk1

   #7 18th March 2007, 20:23

   I swear more and more of these stupid threads are getting started each day
   
   
   I wanna turbo my 1.4 i wanna throttle body my 1.4 etc
   
   why not get a vts be cheaper and probably work out about the same.
   
   Cant afford insurance
   
   Ok so you`l do those mods to your car instead, not declare them, thus making insurance invalid, and then when you smash into my car and i realise your insurance is invalid, i have to kick your fucking head in.
   
   IDIOTS
8. SAM33R Established Member Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 2139 DIABLO RED 106 GTI E36 M3 EVO

   #8 18th March 2007, 23:28

   charmin
9. kenny Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2005 Near St Andrews Fife Posts: 4631 Saxo Westcoast (sold) mr2 turbo

   #9 19th March 2007, 00:17

   i agree tbh, imagine if it was u that was crashed into and there insurance was invalid, bye bye no claims and cash for the excess
10. TU-Tuning Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2006 Bristol Posts: 16575 JP4urio, 306 DTurbo SportShed

    #10 19th March 2007, 00:56

    If youve got the money, why not buy a track car as a project? an old mk1 VTS, 205GTi, slag it out, have fun with it and dont risk getting points
11. Foggy Established Member Joined: Feb 2007 Coleford, Glos Posts: 1290 Saxo S1400 EVO II, Boosted Partner HDi

    #11 19th March 2007, 06:29

    My 1360 is on TB's, and getting 147 bhp at the flywheel. Cost so far is in the region on 5K for the engine.
    
    The car is insured through Comp. Car Insurance.
12. S34MER East Midlands Joined: Jun 2006 Derby Posts: 8305 Skoda Fabia VRS

    #12 19th March 2007, 07:43

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by argylefan1985 I swear more and more of these stupid threads are getting started each day I wanna turbo my 1.4 i wanna throttle body my 1.4 etc why not get a vts be cheaper and probably work out about the same. Cant afford insurance Ok so you`l do those mods to your car instead, not declare them, thus making insurance invalid, and then when you smash into my car and i realise your insurance is invalid, i have to kick your fucking head in. IDIOTS

    
    calm down my friend!! he hasn't said he won't declare it yet lol and already your kicking him in the bollocks!!
    
    I agree with what your saying though!
13. WestyVTR Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2004 Gosport Posts: 3140 saxo VTR, Clio 1.2 turbo, prious, Kawasaki 363 nin

    #13 19th March 2007, 09:37

    These sort of questions bug me -
    
    i cant afford a GTI so i cant afford to mod my 1.4.... simple answer is save some cash or dont do it!
14. Ste Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 Yorkshire Posts: 5415 Saxo

    #14 19th March 2007, 17:51

    Unfortunatly mate throttle bodies will cost as much if not more than your insurance would on a VTS. A VTR isnt as bad as its only group 7 IE Half...
    
    If you wanted a power boost from your car, get yourself a VTR engine for nearly 1/3 the price and put that in when you get a yrs no claims....
    
    Adrian Flux are dirt cheap when it comes to big mods.
    
    But if you increase the power of your car and dont tell insurance your gonna be fuct if you crash into someone or jail time if you run someone over....
    
    
    
    You will have to do what i did, and everyone else is doing and has done..... wait. Insurance on big power is just not possible until your nocking on 21 with a few yrs no claims. Get yourself a trailer and by my mk 3 astra off me, and then put a 2.0 lump in it and for under a grand you can have a track ready rocket.....
15. riggsy Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2006 West Sussex Posts: 6280 Mk2 Saxo Vts

    #15 19th March 2007, 17:59

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by argylefan1985 Ok so you`l do those mods to your car instead, not declare them, thus making insurance invalid, and then when you smash into my car and i realise your insurance is invalid, i have to kick your fucking head in. IDIOTS

    So true!
16. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

    #16 22nd March 2007, 14:07

    i dont think the insurance increase would be £2k and he would have an ecu, wiring and tb's that he could transfer across easily to a new car.
    
    I'm not going to insult your choice of engine as one of our project cars is a 205 Rallye with a 1.4 engine. Lets just say it didnt have big power and it was faster than a lot of cars on the track overall though it lacked punch on the straights, but thats because we took an apraoch that engine power isnt everything
    
    Realistically you will get about 10-15bhp from the tb's and a good chuck of torque in the midrange. Worth it....probably not but at least it will only cost a couple of hundred to transfer to a vtr/s when you can afford the car