Massive Problem...What can I do???

1. silver_saxo Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2005 Exeter/Surrey United Kingdom (England) Posts: 883

   #1 20th March 2007, 17:27

   Right....took the sax to be lowered today, got a call two hours later from the garage to tell me that there was no way of removing my torsion bar as it was seriously seized!
   
   What are my options now? maybe buying a new rear beam of ebay?
   
   I feel a bit stuck, really wanted it lowered today
2. MaRiO89 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7705 Saxo VTS

   #2 20th March 2007, 17:29

   New beam i ould say..
3. riggsy Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2006 West Sussex Posts: 6280 Mk2 Saxo Vts

   #3 20th March 2007, 17:31

   This happends alot even more so if its an older model!
   
   What year is your car?
   
   If they are seized they can still be taken out! Just need soaking!
   
   Has it been lowered before?
4. Dan Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2003 Middlesbrough United Kingdom (England) Posts: 23676 Seat Leon FR

   #4 20th March 2007, 17:33

   Yeah as riggsy said they will come out eventually they just need a fair amount of work to remove them.
   
   New rear beam would be an option but expensive imo.
5. silver_saxo Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2005 Exeter/Surrey United Kingdom (England) Posts: 883

   #5 20th March 2007, 17:33

   its a 1998 mk1, not been lowered before!
   
   How much soaking?!
   
   I'm worried about shearing off the torx bolt in the end trying to remove it
6. stevenet15 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 aylesbury buckinghamshire Posts: 4822 Astra Turbo, saxo vts, punto turbo

   #6 20th March 2007, 17:33

   loads of differnt methods to unseise them mate do a search, most garages give up at the first hurdle as there not that confident at doign torsion bars anyway
7. riggsy Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2006 West Sussex Posts: 6280 Mk2 Saxo Vts

   #7 20th March 2007, 17:35

   I havent lowered a saxo before, but i know people that have and they have left the torsion bars to soak over night.....
8. TU-Tuning Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2006 Bristol Posts: 16575 JP4urio, 306 DTurbo SportShed

   #8 20th March 2007, 17:35

   I hear WD40, or Coke mixed with WD40 does the trick mate
9. silver_saxo Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2005 Exeter/Surrey United Kingdom (England) Posts: 883

   #9 20th March 2007, 17:37

   Yeh have done loads of searches so have a pretty good idea of what to do, jus dont want to break it.
   
   How do you soak it over night? (sorry if that sounds stupid!?)
10. riggsy Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2006 West Sussex Posts: 6280 Mk2 Saxo Vts

    #10 20th March 2007, 17:38

    Best thing to do it get some one to do this that does it alot ie Steve on here on there is a bloke on ssc that did mine on my vtr....
    
    Most garages are wankers they dont like lowering cars or working on lowered cars, well thats what i have found in my life time of modified cars
11. stevenet15 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 aylesbury buckinghamshire Posts: 4822 Astra Turbo, saxo vts, punto turbo

    #11 20th March 2007, 17:38

    mix wd40 with some coca cola (there is a particular acid in the coke that helps to unseise things) anyway mix it together in a pot and tehn cake it aroudn the torsion bar ends leave a few hours and then cake some more on then have a go at either slide hammering, socket pulling or hitting a bar against it from the other side to get the torsion bars out. also u can use a blow torch to heat the ends up as when u heat the metal up it expands and helps to release it. and if all that fails then look at gettign a new beam.
12. silver_saxo Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2005 Exeter/Surrey United Kingdom (England) Posts: 883

    #12 20th March 2007, 17:41

    Sounds like an exciting job!
    
    Guy at the garage said heating it up will weaken the the suspension?!!
    
    Also seem to be stuck at the removing the bolts stage!
13. djrem Saxperience Addict Joined: Feb 2007 Ramsden Bellhouse (Billericay) Posts: 12826 Various.

    #13 20th March 2007, 17:44

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by silver_saxo Guy at the garage said heating it up will weaken the the suspension?!!

    guy at the garage said theres no way to lower your car
    
    
    Already i can count 5 replies that suggest otherwise
14. liamk15 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2005 North east Posts: 6123 Type-r

    #14 20th March 2007, 17:46

    Anyone remember daryl_vtr lol
    
    whats with this bird in eeryones avatar?
15. silver_saxo Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2005 Exeter/Surrey United Kingdom (England) Posts: 883

    #15 20th March 2007, 17:47

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by liamk15 Anyone remember daryl_vtr lol

    ?????????
    
    
    I think i might give it a bash tomorrow when its not snowing!
    
    I'm just worried about breaking or shearing off bolts etc, then i'll be carless!
16. stevenet15 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 aylesbury buckinghamshire Posts: 4822 Astra Turbo, saxo vts, punto turbo

    #16 20th March 2007, 17:50

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by silver_saxo Sounds like an exciting job! Guy at the garage said heating it up will weaken the the suspension?!! Also seem to be stuck at the removing the bolts stage!

    depends how hot u get it and how u apply the heat, u try all the other methods first then try the heating one last. i've done about 15 torsion bars now and only 4 of them came out first time the rest were seised.
17. silver_saxo Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2005 Exeter/Surrey United Kingdom (England) Posts: 883

    #17 20th March 2007, 17:53

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by stevenet15 depends how hot u get it and how u apply the heat, u try all the other methods first then try the heating one last. i've done about 15 torsion bars now and only 4 of them came out first time the rest were seised.

    I wish u still offered the lowering service! stupid damn bar.
    
    I looked at it a couple of days ago and it looked very rusty. could only see the bolt for the torsion bar after scraping a load of shit and rust away.
18. riggsy Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2006 West Sussex Posts: 6280 Mk2 Saxo Vts

    #18 20th March 2007, 17:54

    I have the blokes number from ssc if you want it? He lives in Surrey....
19. silver_saxo Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2005 Exeter/Surrey United Kingdom (England) Posts: 883

    #19 20th March 2007, 17:55

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by riggsy I have the blokes number from ssc if you want it? He lives in Surrey....

    Yeh that would be good, do you know whereabouts? also does he have msn?
20. liamk15 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2005 North east Posts: 6123 Type-r

    #20 20th March 2007, 17:57

    search for him,he had a shit loads of trouble trying to lower his
21. riggsy Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2006 West Sussex Posts: 6280 Mk2 Saxo Vts

    #21 20th March 2007, 17:59

    I have pm'd you his number yes he has msn but he isnt on there much!
22. silver_saxo Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2005 Exeter/Surrey United Kingdom (England) Posts: 883

    #22 20th March 2007, 18:01

    Cheers mate. I might give this a go tomorrow and i'll keep you all posted!
    
    Thanks for all your help guys. I'll rep eveyone who has helped tomorrow
23. woodsy Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2006 area 51, navada desert Posts: 2809 mk1 1998 silver saxo vts

    #23 20th March 2007, 18:06

    mine was seized too on a 98 vts
    
    a bigger slide hammer and a 18 stone guy got it out
    
    not much use i know but the do come out eventually ... every little knock will loosen it
24. silver_saxo Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2005 Exeter/Surrey United Kingdom (England) Posts: 883

    #24 21st March 2007, 09:16

    Right......i'm off to coat it in coke and wd40!
    
    Wish me luck!
25. riggsy Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2006 West Sussex Posts: 6280 Mk2 Saxo Vts

    #25 21st March 2007, 10:19

    GOOD LUCK, even though it should work!