vtr, zetec s

21st March 2007, 17:12

I want my vtr(2002) to keep up with a standard zetec s, but what sort of mods would be needed to do this, at the moment ive got planned bmc enclosed induction kit and possibly a new exaust system, where will this put me vs the zetec, anyone have any suggestions or tips, cheers

21st March 2007, 17:15

should not need that meny mods
zetec s
0-60 9.9sec
101 bhp

saxo vtr
0-60 9.9 sec
98 bhp

21st March 2007, 17:16

Standard VTR spanks a ZS's ass mate.

21st March 2007, 17:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by beastgtir

Standard VTR spanks a ZS's ass mate.

Are you sure lol, i have a hard time keeping up with them and my gear changes are pretty quick??

21st March 2007, 17:18

vtrs are faster then zetecs as standard only slightly though

if u can beat 1 yours is fucked or cant drive or the zetec is moded

if you want to hammer 1 buy a faster car

21st March 2007, 17:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by hesslevtr

vtrs are faster then zetecs as standard only slightly though

if u can beat 1 yours is fucked or cant drive or the zetec is moded

if you want to hammer 1 buy a faster car

Yeah thats the thing mine will beat it till it gets into about 4th gear then it will cruise past me

21st March 2007, 17:21

edit my first post as i had a blond moment and thought a vtr was a 1.4 lol

21st March 2007, 17:21

shouldnt do really maybe you cant drive or your car has probems

21st March 2007, 17:24

is the 4th gear stronger on the zetec s

21st March 2007, 17:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by hesslevtr

shouldnt do really maybe you cant drive or your car has probems

hmmm ill have to look over a few things, my driving is alright, never had problems before. cheers for the feedback

21st March 2007, 17:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by REvtr

Yeah thats the thing mine will beat it till it gets into about 4th gear then it will cruise past me

16v's taking over there, i would have thought they would beat a vtr top end

21st March 2007, 17:25

my mate has a 1.7 pumabuild conversion on his zetecS and pisses all over me when were rolling already but ive never gone toe to toe off the line with him yet so am holding hope that i can get closer to him

21st March 2007, 17:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by SaxOmniaC

my mate has a 1.7 pumabuild conversion on his zetecS and pisses all over me when were rolling already but ive never gone toe to toe off the line with him yet so am holding hope that i can get closer to him

you have no hope in a vtr

21st March 2007, 18:02

I thought Zetec s were 90bhp?

21st March 2007, 18:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by hesslevtr

you have no hope in a vtr

thought as much lol, my mates vtr has skimmed head and port and polish and is apperently faster than this zetec S tho no-one has seen it yet

21st March 2007, 18:16

are they 16v the z's

i know on paper they are slow ... i pulled away from one in 3rd ...

21st March 2007, 18:21

yes 16v mate, well the pumabuild one is i know that much

21st March 2007, 18:26

Yeh they are 16V and they will edge out after 60mph as they have better top end speed then a saxo vtr, but on the twisties and stop,starts the lose a car length or 2.

21st March 2007, 19:16

zs are pretty good on corners, i drove one about and was impressed by it on the corners

my vtr is still quicker off the start tho

21st March 2007, 19:22

i would get manifold changed, stright through section, backbox, panel filter

21st March 2007, 20:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by bullit

i would get manifold changed, stright through section, backbox, panel filter

i would get what is stated there, but need some sort of backpressure for performance?? i dont know that exactly just read it, so would leave a silencer in or something! de-cat it which will be changing your manifold in your case!

22nd March 2007, 09:39

av seen a race over about 200m from a standing start as 2 ov my mate have got the 2 cars in question, it could not have been closer, if anything the zetec was a whisker ahead but the vtr was a mk1 90 bhp, both had air filters and zorsts.

22nd March 2007, 10:17

got this from a fiesta club site. the standard zetec-s performance is, 0-62 in 10.2 sec.top speed is 114. bhp is 103 @ 6000 rpm. max torque is 145nm @ 4000 rpm. kerb weight is 976 kgs. 31 to 62 mph is 11.4 seconds in 4th gear. ins group 8. hope this helps.

22nd March 2007, 10:39

the vtr and zetec s are too close to call but the zetec has a bigger top end because of it 16v engine. I had trouble keeping up with a zetec s off the start cos i have 17s on..ooops lol!

22nd March 2007, 10:41

the vtr is 116. the fiesta is 114.

22nd March 2007, 10:58

get a set of cams.... should give you the power you need to make 4th count

22nd March 2007, 11:15

a set of cams?

you need one cam for a VTR

22nd March 2007, 15:32

right ive had a zetec s and vtr. and i played with vtr's in the zetec s
without a doubt the zetec s is quicker. my borther has got a mk2 vtr and yes his keeps up with mine to 60 but mine walks all over his after then.

ive now got a vts and it pisses all over both hehe.

22nd March 2007, 16:02

when ive raced zetec s` they are in 3rd as am just getting up to power in 2nd, usually pass em bout 45 50 ish if i start from behind 1, ford have to change gear realy early hence there slow 0 - 60.

22nd March 2007, 17:21

scooty what have you done to get 147 bhp

22nd March 2007, 17:50

my vtr kicks the ass of my mates zetec s i only have a cat back exhaust system

22nd March 2007, 18:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by bullit

scooty what have you done to get 147 bhp

SCOTTY has got an electric super charger.

22nd March 2007, 18:06

thought of a quickshifter mate, that will get you through the gears faster, manifold and exhaust would be a good start for performance modifications, have you got a heavy ICE install or anything that might be making the car a bit heavier???

22nd March 2007, 18:54

Strip It!

22nd March 2007, 19:10

i have a silver top 90bhp with a 4-2-1 gmc fanimold, powerflow cat back exhaust with one long centre section and two whopping great 4" jap cans on the rear. im still running stock air filter and mine will piss all over a 98bhp saxo. for some reason it seems to pull like a f**ker. the best sort of driving is keep the revs up high. if you go low down in the rev range then you will run into all sorts of trouble. oh and z's are 16v 101 bhp 0-60 10.2 or something like that and as long as you drive the car right you can easily beat them all the way up to silly speeds, its all about the gear changes and foot control

22nd March 2007, 19:14

sorry scotty?

22nd March 2007, 19:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by bullit

sorry scotty?

It`s ok!

22nd March 2007, 20:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by blacksax1

i have a silver top 90bhp with a 4-2-1 gmc fanimold, powerflow cat back exhaust with one long centre section and two whopping great 4" jap cans on the rear. im still running stock air filter and mine will piss all over a 98bhp saxo. for some reason it seems to pull like a f**ker. the best sort of driving is keep the revs up high. if you go low down in the rev range then you will run into all sorts of trouble. oh and z's are 16v 101 bhp 0-60 10.2 or something like that and as long as you drive the car right you can easily beat them all the way up to silly speeds, its all about the gear changes and foot control

interesting.... when i get a magnex centre pipe want to see if i can piss on a 98bhp aswel

23rd March 2007, 08:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve_VTR

interesting.... when i get a magnex centre pipe want to see if i can piss on a 98bhp aswel

its surprising just how much quicker they can be if you change a few things

23rd March 2007, 11:22

My westy, which stripped to the bone, 4-2-1, sports cat and then from the cat back a stainless system will play with one until i hit 3rd an 4th then they edge away, i wasn't impressed with them tbh..

23rd March 2007, 11:48

zetec engines are fucking wank they cant breath for shit, first thing i would do is fucking put huge vavles on em since the vavle diamter is less than a fucking 10p coin, then port the fuck out of the head.

zetecs arnt what everyone thinks there like i reckon

23rd March 2007, 11:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tobs

zetec engines are fucking wank they cant breath for shit, first thing i would do is fucking put huge vavles on em since the vavle diamter is less than a fucking 10p coin, then port the fuck out of the head.

zetecs arnt what everyone thinks there like i reckon

Calm down! lol,

23rd March 2007, 12:03

hahah soz mate

yh you should be able to spank the S unless he got some mods

23rd March 2007, 12:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tobs

hahah soz mate

yh you should be able to spank the S unless he got some mods

lol..

yeah a vtr with breathingf mods should be a good race..

23rd March 2007, 14:36

zetec s's are slow dude you should piss one in your vtr. a few mates have vtr's and have raced zetec 's before and they just cant keep up.

i raced one before in my vts and by the time i got to about 45mph he was about 4 car lengths behind

23rd March 2007, 15:06

it's all down to driver imo

Ive had 3-4 vtr's try to race me and ive pulled away from every one of them

Standing starts and from a rolling start

23rd March 2007, 18:28

what have u done to urs?

23rd March 2007, 18:31

iv been in a few zetec s and driven 1 or 2 and some felt slow and shit and others have been really pokey id say better then vtr