Pwerflow?! have they done me over?

  1. Newbie Joined: Mar 2006 Surrey. Posts: 24 Two Tone Silver VTR
    #1
    I just got a "full" powerflow stainless steel system on my MK2 VTR and it appears that where the centre section joins the cat downpipe it is still the rusty mild steel!

    it looks like they have just cut my center section down to about 8" and welded the new tubing on!

    surely a full system should be from cat back!!

    is there anything i can do about this, as if that part of the exhaust rusts i am up the S**t creek without a paddle because you cant get a 8" section of that can you!!

    help!
  2. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 Yorkshire Posts: 5415 Saxo
    #2
    Just go back and tell them your not happy, powerflow specialists are usually happy to help you out.

    Tell them you want it doing properly and up to the manifold as thats what you asked for. Just dont be out of line with them!
  3. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2006 North East Posts: 5289
    #3
    at the end of the standard section mate around the last few inches it normally has a silencer box on if thats gone then they have replaced it
  4. Newbie Joined: Mar 2006 Surrey. Posts: 24 Two Tone Silver VTR
    #4
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by stiffler69 View Post
    at the end of the standard section mate around the last few inches it normally has a silencer box on if thats gone then they have replaced it
    Yep but they have left a bit of the old cetre section on the very end of the cat downpipe.

    as the two bits of pipe welded are different widths and different colours!

    i think ill go back to them when i have a day off next week and see what they say.
  5. East Midlands Joined: Jun 2006 Derby Posts: 8305 Skoda Fabia VRS
    #5
    thats so they can take the ca out in future if need be!
  6. Newbie Joined: Mar 2006 Surrey. Posts: 24 Two Tone Silver VTR
    #6
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by S34MER View Post
    thats so they can take the ca out in future if need be!
    surely that is not the case as the cat is in the manifold and then the downpipe! and the join between the downpipe and centre section (which is done with those spring bolt things)

    and then after this join about 8" down they have welded on the stainless section!
  7. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2004 Hull (England) Posts: 18709 1.6 vtr
    #7
    the cat is part of the down pipe
  8. Established Member Joined: May 2006 Posts: 2279
    #8
    They have just done it to save using a new manifold flange and welding onto tht!! They cheap all there systems like tht!!
  9. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi
    #9
    welding mild steel to stainless isnt good as they can react with each other. i would complain about it if they have done that. is there a weld there?
  10. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2004 Hull (England) Posts: 18709 1.6 vtr
    #10
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by williamsvts View Post
    welding mild steel to stainless isnt good as they can react with each other. i would complain about it if they have done that. is there a weld there?
    whats confused me is that they have welded it and not joined it using clamps
  11. Newbie Joined: Mar 2006 Surrey. Posts: 24 Two Tone Silver VTR
    #11
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by williamsvts View Post
    welding mild steel to stainless isnt good as they can react with each other. i would complain about it if they have done that. is there a weld there?
    yep a definate weld there it looks like a right bodge and it cost £310 which is more that a proper cat back!

    i will keep it if they sort it but i don't think they gona be happy to sort it out!

    and if i say i dont want it because they are cowboys i cant exactly drive with no exhaust for a couple of days!
  12. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2004 Hull (England) Posts: 18709 1.6 vtr
    #12
    can you get pics to see how this has been put together
  13. Newbie Joined: Mar 2006 Surrey. Posts: 24 Two Tone Silver VTR
    #13
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by hesslevtr View Post
    can you get pics to see how this has been put together
    yeah i can get some tommorrow for you when it is light! how do i get them on her once i have the photos?

    has been really getting to me!
  14. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2004 Hull (England) Posts: 18709 1.6 vtr
    #14
    you need to upload to photobucket then copy the IMG links onto here
  15. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2005 North east Posts: 6123 Type-r
    #15
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by saxonewbie View Post
    yeah i can get some tommorrow for you when it is light! how do i get them on her once i have the photos?

    has been really getting to me!
    www.photobucket.com put them on here ,then copy the links over using the insert image tab above the reply box
  16. Newbie Joined: Mar 2006 Surrey. Posts: 24 Two Tone Silver VTR
    #16
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by hesslevtr View Post
    you need to upload to photobucket then copy the IMG links onto here
    ok ill get them on tommorrow, thanks for all your help so far!!
  17. Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut
    #17
    POOerflow.

    ive seen a few examples of less than good work from the dealers.
  18. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2005 e-hollywood Posts: 17160 toyata hilux
    #18
    was waiting for your pooerflow remark, lol
  19. Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)
    #19
    sounds like a botch to save the complex part of making up the correct fixings.
  20. Administrator Joined: Dec 2002 Glasgow United Kingdom (Scotland) Posts: 26097 Chelski Traktor
    #20
    sounds like most of the powerflow systems i have seen, usually use a lesser grade of stainless for the pipes and proper t304 for the boxes
  21. Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut
    #21
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by bullit View Post
    was waiting for your pooerflow remark, lol
    what can i say dude. i think they are shit, and a ripoff
  22. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 Yorkshire Posts: 5415 Saxo
    #22
    Ive seen a few powerflow systems and ive been pretty impressed with them but it sounds like theyve got a bad rep :o

    A c2 with a centre exit system & an astra GSi with two small pipes coming out of the left side infront of the rear wheel... looked so good!!!

    I was thinking about a powerflow system but i think ill go for magnex
  23. Newbie Joined: Mar 2006 Surrey. Posts: 24 Two Tone Silver VTR
    #23
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Scott View Post
    sounds like most of the powerflow systems i have seen, usually use a lesser grade of stainless for the pipes and proper t304 for the boxes
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  24. Frequent Poster Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 650
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  25. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2005 e-hollywood Posts: 17160 toyata hilux
    #25
    one called john the other wayne
  26. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2006 North East Posts: 5289
    #26
    Look at the welding thats awful did the apprentice do it and was there a fag packet involved
  27. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2006 North East Posts: 5289
    #27
    Sorry dude but this is what happened to you



    They should change it once you tell them your on to there dodgy welding and scrimping cant imagine they would want that hanging over them
  28. Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 144
    #28
    thats a disgrace. no other wat to put it. powerflow are crap its as simple as that. they also crush bend all the bends... shite. my first ever zaUst was from them 400 quid for a de cat system what a rip off and they used all my original flanges welded onto stainless steel which rusted after about a year, must of been poor quality. AAS in newcastle make amazing systems anything u want any bore u want total mint quality i have used them 4 times and never ever been dissapointed and never had a problem with any of ther systems
  29. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2004 Hull (England) Posts: 18709 1.6 vtr
    #29
    that is fucking shocking mate get something done about that
  30. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5
    #30
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Consett_chris View Post
    thats a disgrace. no other wat to put it. powerflow are crap its as simple as that. they also crush bend all the bends... shite. my first ever zaUst was from them 400 quid for a de cat system what a rip off and they used all my original flanges welded onto stainless steel which rusted after about a year, must of been poor quality. AAS in newcastle make amazing systems anything u want any bore u want total mint quality i have used them 4 times and never ever been dissapointed and never had a problem with any of ther systems
    Renwick off here works at AAS

    Thats aweful mate, i would take it straight back and complain! want discount and it doing properly. Is it meant to be a stainless cat-back system? so tell them thats not what they have done.
    Did you not get the choice to keep your old zorst? should have said yes so they cant do that.

    Gutted for you mate
  31. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi
    #31
    i would ask for you money back and it putting back to standard. or you will be going to trading standards.
  32. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 Yorkshire Posts: 5415 Saxo
    #32
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by williamsvts View Post
    i would ask for you money back and it putting back to standard. or you will be going to trading standards.
    Yea get em worried, thats terrible.. I can beleive they'd actually bodge it that bad!!!!!!