3k to spend on vts engine

1. kev_saxowales Newbie Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 2

   #1 22nd March 2007, 21:10

   just bought a vts engine for my westie and i have 3k to spend on it and i want to know wot should i buy to see best gains cams? re-map? ect
   
   already got a viper ind kit and a full stainless system and will order a manifold soon.
   
   any help plz also labour wont be a problem
2. stebbs1471 Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2004 Derby/Oakham Posts: 241 Saxo VTS mk2 Gold, lowered 50ish,

   #2 22nd March 2007, 21:16

   get some throttle boddies, wild cams and headwork, job should be a gudn for 180bhp, will be awesome.
3. Richardson_VTS Established Member Joined: Mar 2006 Northallerton Posts: 1672 Mini Cooper S

   #3 22nd March 2007, 21:18

   Turbo it
4. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

   #4 22nd March 2007, 21:18

   3k to spend on it jesus! lol just spending it on the engine? get some decent brakes and suspension with that money aswel as need to stop just as much as go faster
5. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

   #5 22nd March 2007, 21:19

   haha like how the gold saxo people post first!
6. TheMadSaxo Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2006 Derby (Yorkshire Exile) Posts: 531 172 cup - Honda Civic Jordan.

   #6 22nd March 2007, 21:28

   £3000 on the engine!
   
   How much did you pay for the Vts engine?
7. Predator_R32p Super Moderator Joined: Mar 2003 Durham (England) Posts: 37932 1. AX 2. Mk2 Saxo VTR 3. MK4 R32 DBP

   #7 22nd March 2007, 21:29

   turbo or supercharge it mate
8. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

   #8 22nd March 2007, 21:30

   nice first post aswel mate!
9. Josh_Phipps Established Member Joined: Jun 2006 Aylesbury, Bucks Posts: 1867 Mk 2 Vtr (sold), Fiat Seciento Sporting

   #9 22nd March 2007, 21:30

   Invest it, dont waste it on a vts lol.
   
   if you do, supercharge / turbocharge
10. Ste Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 Yorkshire Posts: 5415 Saxo

    #10 22nd March 2007, 21:50

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Predator_VTR turbo or supercharge it mate

    There you go....
11. Barry123 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS

    #11 22nd March 2007, 23:01

    Get the basics sorted first...
    
    decent induction, decent exhaust, manifold yada
    
    cams on it, remap. work out how much is left then put it into a savings account.
12. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #12 22nd March 2007, 23:06

    dont be boring. get some decent suspension, good brakes. then get good breathing mods, cams and remap. you will then have a fun saxo to drive
13. Tobs Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2005 London Posts: 3416

    #13 23rd March 2007, 12:04

    yh if ur ginna make engine powerful then u your cars needs to be able to handle it
    
    i.e. what there all saying look at handleing and brakes etc etc
14. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #14 23rd March 2007, 15:30

    firstly what are you going to be using the car for? is it going to be a PURE track car, or is it going to be a daily driver that you want fucking fast.
    
    This should determine what route you go with the engine and car itself.
    
    the thing most people forget is that as bmw said power is nothing without control, so if you have 200+bhp and shit brakes and suspension the chances are you wont be a owner of the car for very long before theres some metal getting bent.
    
    peraonally i prefer NA and throttle bodies, esepc on something like a track car. However it is FAR FAR easyer to get big power from boost. And alot of people can run boosted engines for daily drivers aswell. on the TU engine supercharging seems to have great effects, and gives a good power delivery, and so i would say turbos are the last resort lol!
15. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

    #15 23rd March 2007, 15:49

    A car with a turbo can be more difficult to drive around a track as to be fast you have to keep the car on boost at all times.
    
    I've seen many a well driven N/a run rings around much higher powered turbo'd varient as a result
16. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #16 23rd March 2007, 15:57

    why i had turbo as last resort
    
    TBS all the way
    
    mine should be all working soon hopefully
17. Ste Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 Yorkshire Posts: 5415 Saxo

    #17 23rd March 2007, 16:11

    forget the downsides lol get a turbo oohwheeeeee....
    
    No ignore me lol. i think if your sensible you'd put a grand ish asside for the engine (cams, manifold, head, exhaust) and then keep the rest saved up.
    
    I couldnt spend 3k like that on a car.... over time yea but not when ive got it in my account waiting lol.
18. Yates Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Pompey/Darlo Posts: 31546 MK1 - 1.1 Animal

    #18 23rd March 2007, 16:24

    decent brakes and suspension first, then exhaust manifold filter then go cams and see what you have left
19. samcook Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2005 evesham, worcs United Kingdom (England) Posts: 3813 197 cup

    #19 23rd March 2007, 16:37

    definutly get a decent suspension and brake setup first mate
20. Robbo Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2005 M'Bro - Teesside Posts: 3060 401 bhp r33 skyline

    #20 23rd March 2007, 17:12

    dont spend 3K on a paxo.... fucking hell you could sell the sax, and put that money with the 3K and get a decent car???
21. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #21 23rd March 2007, 17:59

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Robbo dont spend 3K on a paxo.... fucking hell you could sell the sax, and put that money with the 3K and get a decent car???

    with 3k into a saxo though it will beat alot of other ££££ cars. its cheap for a track car
22. BENSAX3 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2006 Buckinghamshire Posts: 2700 under age

    #22 23rd March 2007, 18:49

    yeah spending it on a saxo you will never get it back and the other money you have put into the car. save it
23. Yates Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Pompey/Darlo Posts: 31546 MK1 - 1.1 Animal

    #23 23rd March 2007, 19:10

    his money - spend it how he wants
    
    i love spending money on my car
24. riggsy Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2006 West Sussex Posts: 6280 Mk2 Saxo Vts

    #24 23rd March 2007, 19:14

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by williamsvts dont be boring. get some decent suspension, good brakes. then get good breathing mods, cams and remap. you will then have a fun saxo to drive

    What he said ^^^
    
    Or just give it to me and ill report back with what ive done with it
25. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #25 23rd March 2007, 19:31

    its amasing how easy it is to spend money on a car.
    
    5k into my £600 bucket of spanners still it should be rather spethal soon
26. kev_saxowales Newbie Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 2

    #26 23rd March 2007, 19:36

    wouldnt spend 3k on any other car exept a saxo this is my 3rd 1 now
    
    breathing mods are all sorted and i will get a big brake conversion and new shox/springs
    
    dunno bout a turbo could i get all the parts for 3k??
    
    weres the best place to get cams/ecu ect i was looking on gmcmotorsport anywere else??
    
    thanks for help guys
27. bullit Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2005 e-hollywood Posts: 17160 toyata hilux

    #27 23rd March 2007, 19:41

    you could get all the parts for turbo for that and pay for some fitting.
    cam wise have a search mate, shed loads of threads on it.
    also what do you mean by big brake conversion ie standard calipers?
    what suspension you choosing.
28. Longy0710VTR L-plater Joined: Nov 2006 Sheffield!!! Posts: 37 Saxo MK2 VTR (black)

    #28 24th March 2007, 10:55

    3000 to spend on a saxo!! Lucky man! I think id be going for the cam, throttle bodies and headwork personally and along with the breathing mods and new brakes, your looking at a rapid motor with money still to spare.
    
    Thats what id do anyway!
29. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #29 24th March 2007, 11:46

    ffs, this is a saxo enthusiats site not a financil advisory site. people on here like their saxo and want to add their personal touch to it to have a car they like and enjoy driving. if your going to say how shit saxos are sell up and get on another forum.
30. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #30 24th March 2007, 11:51

    imo, the people that tell you not to spend your £££££ on your car are the 1s that cant afford to
31. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #31 24th March 2007, 12:33

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by williamsvts imo, the people that tell you not to spend your £££££ on your car are the 1s that cant afford to

    lol indeed,
32. djrem Saxperience Addict Joined: Feb 2007 Ramsden Bellhouse (Billericay) Posts: 12826 Various.

    #32 26th March 2007, 00:11

    get it turbod:
    http://www.pug-performance.com/pug-106-tuning.htm
33. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #33 26th March 2007, 00:30

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by djrem get it turbod: http://www.pug-performance.com/pug-106-tuning.htm

    the PP site is about 4 years out of date.
    
    and boost is gay!
34. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

    #34 26th March 2007, 07:21

    there's nothing quite like a high powered N/a car.. Not sure that 3K is enough to tune the car and chassis for a turbo