Tappy VTS

1. clarkey2r L-plater Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 36

   #1 23rd March 2007, 12:04

   Hi all
   
   I have got a 1999 T reg VTS. My engine has been in the garage for a few bits drive shaft seal etc. I asked the bloke do you think it sounds a bit tappy? He said yes. I asked him what he thought and he said the head might need replacing 750-800 quid all in!! Is this expensive? Any other possibilities of what the tap could be? It is only really noticeable when cold. It’s been like it for a while now. Will it go pop?
2. Tobs Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2005 London Posts: 3416

   #2 23rd March 2007, 12:07

   its the cams
   
   or even bigger the big ends are knocking (bearing are worn)
   
   how loud is the tapping? loud loud or just noticeable?
3. clarkey2r L-plater Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 36

   #3 23rd March 2007, 12:10

   under the bonnet its loud. you can here it in the car but only just
4. CampDavid Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2006 Bedford Posts: 7457 Saxo VTS Peugeot 306 GTI-6 Astra SRI

   #4 23rd March 2007, 12:11

   I'll put a tenner on it that a spark plug is loose. Take the coil off and tighten all the sparks to the right torque load.
   
   That should sort it
5. MaRiO89 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7705 Saxo VTS

   #5 23rd March 2007, 12:16

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by CampDavid I'll put a tenner on it that a spark plug is loose. Take the coil off and tighten all the sparks to the right torque load. That should sort it

   
   Agree'd, very rare for big end bearings etc to go on TU engines unless they have been neglected..
6. MaRiO89 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7705 Saxo VTS

   #6 23rd March 2007, 12:18

   Also if it was the big end going/gone it would be knocking when you rev it..
7. Tobs Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2005 London Posts: 3416

   #7 23rd March 2007, 12:22

   well if its a small knocking noise then its not manger
   
   im use to listening to loud noises at college from all the old shitters
8. clarkey2r L-plater Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 36

   #8 23rd March 2007, 12:27

   will have a look at the spark plugs at the weekend. if it still there shall i scrap it?
   
   
   only joking but what will it be then?
9. MaRiO89 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7705 Saxo VTS

   #9 23rd March 2007, 12:28

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Tobs im use to listening to loud noises at college from all the old shitters

   HAHAHA, that made me laugh, i dont know why..
10. MaRiO89 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7705 Saxo VTS

    #10 23rd March 2007, 12:29

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by clarkey2r will have a look at the spark plugs at the weekend. if it still there shall i scrap it? only joking but what will it be then?

    If its not the plugs (will be the plugs) then you would have to speak to a mechanic as none of us on here can here it.. lol.
11. CampDavid Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2006 Bedford Posts: 7457 Saxo VTS Peugeot 306 GTI-6 Astra SRI

    #11 23rd March 2007, 12:29

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by clarkey2r will have a look at the spark plugs at the weekend. if it still there shall i scrap it? only joking but what will it be then?

    A lifter most likely, but lets see if it's the spark first
12. Tobs Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2005 London Posts: 3416

    #12 23rd March 2007, 12:33

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CampDavid A lifter most likely, but lets see if it's the spark first

    lifter do u mean cam followers?
13. VTS123 Regular Poster Joined: Mar 2007 Poole, Dorset Posts: 447 Mk1 VTS

    #13 23rd March 2007, 13:26

    Hydraulic lifter. If it's one of them try an oil and filter change before spending a lot of dosh. They like new oil.
14. clarkey2r L-plater Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 36

    #14 23rd March 2007, 13:51

    just had new oil and filter
15. woodsy Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2006 area 51, navada desert Posts: 2809 mk1 1998 silver saxo vts

    #15 23rd March 2007, 13:56

    what oil you used
16. clarkey2r L-plater Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 36

    #16 23rd March 2007, 14:22

    castrol 5w-40 iirc
17. MaRiO89 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7705 Saxo VTS

    #17 23rd March 2007, 14:25

    Shuda used castrol edge sport 0w-40, good stuff..
18. CampDavid Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2006 Bedford Posts: 7457 Saxo VTS Peugeot 306 GTI-6 Astra SRI

    #18 23rd March 2007, 14:33

    Makes no odds, 5w40 is good enough
19. Tobs Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2005 London Posts: 3416

    #19 23rd March 2007, 18:30

    the only thing that is the commom cause of rattleing in the head will be the cam followers.
    
    or the oil
20. MaRiO89 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7705 Saxo VTS

    #20 24th March 2007, 00:47

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CampDavid Makes no odds, 5w40 is good enough

    Was only messing mate.. jeez..
21. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #21 24th March 2007, 12:13

    injectors make a funny noise after a while on these for some reason.
22. clarkey2r L-plater Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 36

    #22 26th March 2007, 19:54

    Spoke the mechanic on fri night and he said it wont be a lifter because its too much of a deep knock. He did say its not really urgent, but just keep an ear out to see if it gets louder. How much would it cost for a new head and maybe cams? Could it be done in a weekend?
23. ckings6056 L-plater Joined: Mar 2007 West Sussex Posts: 44 Ford Mondeo 1.8, Saxo VTR

    #23 26th March 2007, 23:25

    it sounds like the lifters to me or possibly the cam followers.
    
    these can get pretty loud depending on how long they are left for.....