Manifolds!

1. GTI_Lee Established Member Joined: Jun 2006 Wales Posts: 1486 1)2002 Saxo VTR 2)2003 106 GTI

   #1 3rd April 2007, 12:13

   Looking to buy a 4-1 manifold for my VTR! At the moment i've got a cat-back magnex system and open piperx filter! Will I see much difference when I put the manifold on or not? Dont really want to spend £230 on a manifold if I dont see any gains! Also which is better GMC or Raceland 4-1 manifold?
2. Sean Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2005 St Andrews United Kingdom (Scotland) Posts: 7384 Green mk1 vtr/s and Focus zetec

   #2 3rd April 2007, 12:16

   raceland is 4-2-1, gmc is 4-1. 4-1 is better for vtr as the vtr has decent low down pull anyway, 4-1 will improve mid and top end where the vtr manifold is restrictive.
3. GTI_Lee Established Member Joined: Jun 2006 Wales Posts: 1486 1)2002 Saxo VTR 2)2003 106 GTI

   #3 3rd April 2007, 12:19

   Should be louder too yeah? As this will de-cat my car!
4. GTI_Lee Established Member Joined: Jun 2006 Wales Posts: 1486 1)2002 Saxo VTR 2)2003 106 GTI

   #4 3rd April 2007, 12:28

   The GMC manifolds look longer than standard manifolds! Do I have to cut a bit off the magnex exhaust for it to fit?
5. sy_VTR Established Member Joined: Jul 2006 BLACKBURN Posts: 1216 BLACK MK2 VTR, MK1 POSI VTS

   #5 3rd April 2007, 12:34

   i bought a ashley brancher and it sits lower than the standard manifold, dont know wether this is the case with other aftermarket manifolds, but its now gon flat, so i know hav to have it cut and re welded, at an engineering firm cause its not a simple job apparently
6. GTI_Lee Established Member Joined: Jun 2006 Wales Posts: 1486 1)2002 Saxo VTR 2)2003 106 GTI

   #6 3rd April 2007, 12:41

   I mean did you have to cut the manifold to make it shorter? Just want to make sure I know what is to be expected when i buy the manifold!
7. VTS_16v_Boy Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2006 Dartford Kent Posts: 5251 Pug 1007 HDi Sport (daily) / Abarth 500

   #7 3rd April 2007, 12:44

   I had a Janspeed 4-2-1 on my S and never had any problems with catching but after replacing it with a Piper 4-1 (which I think is the same as the GMC 4-1) I now catch on speed bumps that I once cleared with the Janspeed.
   
   I would say you Would see a gain, higher up the rev range compaired to the 4-2-1 like mentioned.
8. godfridge Infrequent Poster Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 155 Mk1 Saxo vtr

   #8 3rd April 2007, 17:30

   id say go for the 4-2-1 on the vtr and improve all the low down torque you have as its only an 8v that dont want the tits reving off it.
   
   thats what i have anyway and wouldnt think of changing it
9. Toad Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 Reading Posts: 8980 French tin can

   #9 3rd April 2007, 17:56

   4-1 Vs 4-2-1 in size: The 4-1 will nearly always sit lower to the ground.
10. GTI_Lee Established Member Joined: Jun 2006 Wales Posts: 1486 1)2002 Saxo VTR 2)2003 106 GTI

    #10 3rd April 2007, 18:41

    I have decided I am going to get a GMC 4-1 manifold and a supersprint centre section and leave my magnex backbox on! Will all these fit together ok? Anyone on here running with this set-up?
11. GTI_Lee Established Member Joined: Jun 2006 Wales Posts: 1486 1)2002 Saxo VTR 2)2003 106 GTI

    #11 3rd April 2007, 18:57

    anyone?
12. WestyVTR Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2004 Gosport Posts: 3140 saxo VTR, Clio 1.2 turbo, prious, Kawasaki 363 nin

    #12 3rd April 2007, 18:59

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Squills_Saxo Looking to buy a 4-1 manifold for my VTR! At the moment i've got a cat-back magnex system and open piperx filter! Will I see much difference when I put the manifold on or not? Dont really want to spend £230 on a manifold if I dont see any gains! Also which is better GMC or Raceland 4-1 manifold?

    If you dont want to spen your ££ then dont - however if you do want to, get a GMC mild steel - i did, gd fit and gd make! jpb done - end of
13. GTI_Lee Established Member Joined: Jun 2006 Wales Posts: 1486 1)2002 Saxo VTR 2)2003 106 GTI

    #13 3rd April 2007, 19:06

    I want to order the manifold tonight off GMC motorsport, just need to know will the manifold fit to a supersprint centre section? and will the supersprint centre section fit to the magnex backbox? If not then would it be good enough to just cut the silencing box off the magnex centre pipe and weld a straight pipe to it?
14. WestyVTR Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2004 Gosport Posts: 3140 saxo VTR, Clio 1.2 turbo, prious, Kawasaki 363 nin

    #14 3rd April 2007, 19:23

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Squills_Saxo I want to order the manifold tonight off GMC motorsport, just need to know will the manifold fit to a supersprint centre section? and will the supersprint centre section fit to the magnex backbox? If not then would it be good enough to just cut the silencing box off the magnex centre pipe and weld a straight pipe to it?

    call & ask john at GMC he will tell thee all......
15. GTI_Lee Established Member Joined: Jun 2006 Wales Posts: 1486 1)2002 Saxo VTR 2)2003 106 GTI

    #15 3rd April 2007, 23:45

    Does anyone on here know wether the GMC manifolds come with gaskets?
16. Predator_R32p Super Moderator Joined: Mar 2003 Durham (England) Posts: 37932 1. AX 2. Mk2 Saxo VTR 3. MK4 R32 DBP

    #16 3rd April 2007, 23:50

    dont know mate its best to ring up GMC for all the details or ask hesslevtr
17. GTI_Lee Established Member Joined: Jun 2006 Wales Posts: 1486 1)2002 Saxo VTR 2)2003 106 GTI

    #17 3rd April 2007, 23:53

    I'll just ring them up tommorrow then!
18. GTI_Lee Established Member Joined: Jun 2006 Wales Posts: 1486 1)2002 Saxo VTR 2)2003 106 GTI

    #18 3rd April 2007, 23:55

    I've heard a furio with a manifold like this and a magnex system and it sounded dead raspy!
19. Predator_R32p Super Moderator Joined: Mar 2003 Durham (England) Posts: 37932 1. AX 2. Mk2 Saxo VTR 3. MK4 R32 DBP

    #19 4th April 2007, 00:04

    let me know the price mate too cos im gonna order one soon
20. GTI_Lee Established Member Joined: Jun 2006 Wales Posts: 1486 1)2002 Saxo VTR 2)2003 106 GTI

    #20 4th April 2007, 00:05

    Will do mate!
21. GTI_Lee Established Member Joined: Jun 2006 Wales Posts: 1486 1)2002 Saxo VTR 2)2003 106 GTI

    #21 4th April 2007, 00:06

    Think Hessle said it was £310 thats with VAT and delivery! Didnt say wether the gaskets came with it!
22. Sean Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2005 St Andrews United Kingdom (Scotland) Posts: 7384 Green mk1 vtr/s and Focus zetec

    #22 4th April 2007, 00:15

    i doubt the gaskets come with it to be honest but they wont cost that much
23. Predator_R32p Super Moderator Joined: Mar 2003 Durham (England) Posts: 37932 1. AX 2. Mk2 Saxo VTR 3. MK4 R32 DBP

    #23 4th April 2007, 00:25

    yeah hess got his a while back and the new versions of it are 200 - 210 i think but am not sure if thats with VAT
24. godfridge Infrequent Poster Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 155 Mk1 Saxo vtr

    #24 4th April 2007, 00:55

    i had same setup as you want but with 4-2-1 and it sounded great tastefully sporty with a raspy sound when you get up the revs
    
    if i lift the cluth out slowly it sometimes would pop really loud
25. GTI_Lee Established Member Joined: Jun 2006 Wales Posts: 1486 1)2002 Saxo VTR 2)2003 106 GTI

    #25 4th April 2007, 12:43

    I just ordered my manifold today! GMC 4-1, Should hopefully come tommorrow! Would highly recommend GMC motorsport, great service and really friendly! Would deal with these again! Cant wait to put it on! Altogether it cost me £301.97!
26. GTI_Lee Established Member Joined: Jun 2006 Wales Posts: 1486 1)2002 Saxo VTR 2)2003 106 GTI

    #26 5th April 2007, 17:52

    Manifold came today and is now fitted! You can really feel the difference! I really like the sound too! It's not OTT loud but is nice and raspy! Really pleased with it!
27. Steovts Regular Poster Joined: Mar 2007 Ireland Posts: 282 Saxo Vts

    #27 5th April 2007, 18:22

    Thats good to hear cause I hope to get one soon.Is there that much of a power increase?
28. hesslevtr Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2004 Hull (England) Posts: 18709 1.6 vtr

    #28 5th April 2007, 18:30

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Predator_VTR yeah hess got his a while back and the new versions of it are 200 - 210 i think but am not sure if thats with VAT

    i have the same one and that price doesnt inc vat and p+p i also got a sleeve to
29. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #29 5th April 2007, 19:18

    i have gmc 4 -1 with standard zorst, made a little difference, not much tbh but is a bit louder!
30. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #30 5th April 2007, 19:21

    did it fit ok mate? so wahts your zorst set up?
    My gmc made my exhaust system higher up and pull to the left, the cnetre silencer knocks off the car now and then
31. bez_vtr L-plater Joined: Dec 2005 Stafford Posts: 77 saxo vtr

    #31 5th April 2007, 23:50

    glad u posted this , iv had my gmc manifold for bwt 2 weeks and only just sorted out m.o.t so plan on fittin it next week wen i get sm time of wrk ,shit thing is im onli 16 til 14th april so wnt c the difrence my self lol
32. Predator_R32p Super Moderator Joined: Mar 2003 Durham (England) Posts: 37932 1. AX 2. Mk2 Saxo VTR 3. MK4 R32 DBP

    #32 6th April 2007, 00:49

    im gonna leave it a month before i order one i think, plus i have my MOT coming up soon so will be better to wait
33. GTI_Lee Established Member Joined: Jun 2006 Wales Posts: 1486 1)2002 Saxo VTR 2)2003 106 GTI

    #33 6th April 2007, 11:36

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Steve_VTR did it fit ok mate? so wahts your zorst set up? My gmc made my exhaust system higher up and pull to the left, the cnetre silencer knocks off the car now and then

    Yeah, it was a really good fit! I have GMC 4-1 and a Magnex system! I also can feel a difference in power!