1360cc westcoast engine tune

1. chemicalbro_69 Newbie Joined: Apr 2007 Spilsby Posts: 19

   #1 3rd April 2007, 23:15

   hey im assuming the 1.4 saxo westocoast engine is the same as the 106 quicksilver, i was just wondering what power it would need to get it similar to the vtr power of around 90/98BHP, its it easy to achieve with basic mods? such as vtr parts?
   
   regards dan
2. hesslevtr Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2004 Hull (England) Posts: 18709 1.6 vtr

   #2 3rd April 2007, 23:18

   just get the vtr engine will be easier and poss cheaper to
3. bullit Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2005 e-hollywood Posts: 17160 toyata hilux

   #3 3rd April 2007, 23:20

   theres a lad on ssc called houghman, he tuned his 1.4 to decent power. you wanna have a word with him.
4. MaRiO89 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7705 Saxo VTS

   #4 3rd April 2007, 23:23

   1.4 is quite tunable, xsi head will get you decent gains!
5. chemicalbro_69 Newbie Joined: Apr 2007 Spilsby Posts: 19

   #5 3rd April 2007, 23:26

   thanks for the quick replies, i was just wondering cause i love saxo's and i love the 106, but i prefer the quicksilver's and i carnt afford a 106gti, just wonderded if vtr power could be extracted from that engine , what about nitrous? lol
6. MaRiO89 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7705 Saxo VTS

   #6 3rd April 2007, 23:29

   its the same engine anyway just smaller bore.. Get a performance cam, exhaust and airfilter with a remap anf you will sit all over a VTR. Mine did just after stripping it out, now with a 4 branch it stays with mk2 vtr's to 90 odd then they go past slowly.
7. Roper Established Member Joined: Feb 2006 Derbyshire Posts: 1815 Black 106 GTi Turbo

   #7 3rd April 2007, 23:31

   i thought a Quicksilver was a 16valve ?????
   
   lee.
8. MaRiO89 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7705 Saxo VTS

   #8 3rd April 2007, 23:31

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by saxo_lad_lee i thought a Quicksilver was a 16valve ????? lee.

   
   A quicksilver is basically a furio/westy but in 106 form..
9. bullit Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2005 e-hollywood Posts: 17160 toyata hilux

   #9 3rd April 2007, 23:32

   no mate
10. MaRiO89 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7705 Saxo VTS

    #10 3rd April 2007, 23:35

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bullit no mate

    Is that at me? lol
11. TU-Tuning Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2006 Bristol Posts: 16575 JP4urio, 306 DTurbo SportShed

    #11 3rd April 2007, 23:35

    Theres only 1 16v engine in the saxo 106 range and thats the VTS.
    
    
    And you should get close if you do what James said. If you cam it youll get decent gains obviosly
12. MaRiO89 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7705 Saxo VTS

    #12 3rd April 2007, 23:36

    Ben comes with back up!
13. chemicalbro_69 Newbie Joined: Apr 2007 Spilsby Posts: 19

    #13 3rd April 2007, 23:37

    ah sounds like good stuff, so there basically a 1.4 8 valve? the quicksilver, i know that there 75bhp, well thats what parkers says. its just if i get 1 soon, i want to be able to keep with my cousin's standard saxo vtr
14. bullit Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2005 e-hollywood Posts: 17160 toyata hilux

    #14 3rd April 2007, 23:38

    Quote:

    Is that at me? lol

    wasnt,,,,,
15. MaRiO89 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7705 Saxo VTS

    #15 3rd April 2007, 23:39

    lol, fair enough mate. its good to be competitive in this world.. Get one and do the things i mentioned and you will be away, also have a play with him in his vtr and just see the standard difference, you will be surprised how well your car does after all, only 15bhp down so will only start to pull away in high end of 2nd maybe 3rd or so..
16. MaRiO89 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7705 Saxo VTS

    #16 3rd April 2007, 23:40

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bullit wasnt,,,,,

    ok mate
17. TU-Tuning Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2006 Bristol Posts: 16575 JP4urio, 306 DTurbo SportShed

    #17 3rd April 2007, 23:40

    I think bullit was sayin no to the 16v question not ur response mate
    
    And yeah theyre 75bhp std at the fly, prob a bit less after the years. Breather mods are the way forward, sort out a decent panel filter or enclosed induction kit, stright through exhuast system and a 4-2-1 manifold and youll be close.
    
    Its not a great engine for tuning though tbh, if you can afford the insurance declaring all the mods if you plan to insire them, you may aswell whack a VTR lump in there. Unless you just like to tune it anyway, which is a better view than just going for power i reckon
18. MaRiO89 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7705 Saxo VTS

    #18 3rd April 2007, 23:41

    Forget the vtr lump imo. VTS would be the way to go.
19. MaRiO89 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7705 Saxo VTS

    #19 3rd April 2007, 23:42

    If they have been serviced properly wont lose power either ben!
20. chemicalbro_69 Newbie Joined: Apr 2007 Spilsby Posts: 19

    #20 3rd April 2007, 23:42

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by James_Bristol lol, fair enough mate. its good to be competitive in this world.. Get one and do the things i mentioned and you will be away, also have a play with him in his vtr and just see the standard difference, you will be surprised how well your car does after all, only 15bhp down so will only start to pull away in 3rd or so..

    yeah ill try and get the dosh sorted and try and find 1 soon, yeah i think at first i wont be bothered but im sure after a while ill want the power so i can keep up. At the mo i drove a 1.3i ford ka, 65bhp nothing special.
    
    thanks for the replies guys i really appreciate it, carnt believe how fast some of the respnoses have been.
    
    
    dan
21. MaRiO89 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7705 Saxo VTS

    #21 3rd April 2007, 23:43

    No probs mate! Will rape a ford ka too! lol.
    
    James
22. TU-Tuning Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2006 Bristol Posts: 16575 JP4urio, 306 DTurbo SportShed

    #22 3rd April 2007, 23:44

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by James_Bristol If they have been serviced properly wont lose power either ben!

    True, but how many have been, most saxo owners either rant tho fook out of them or are so old they couldnt care less about oil filters
23. MaRiO89 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7705 Saxo VTS

    #23 3rd April 2007, 23:45

    True, but ranting them is ok, just regular servicing.
    
    But as you said most people who own saxo's who aren't enthusiasts wont service them properly etc..
24. Foggy Established Member Joined: Feb 2007 Coleford, Glos Posts: 1290 Saxo S1400 EVO II, Boosted Partner HDi

    #24 4th April 2007, 00:54

    You can get good power from the 1360 TU's. 147 @ the flywheel!
25. MaRiO89 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7705 Saxo VTS

    #25 4th April 2007, 00:57

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Foggy You can get good power from the 1360 TU's. 147 @ the flywheel!

    Well said!
26. SAM33R Established Member Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 2139 DIABLO RED 106 GTI E36 M3 EVO

    #26 4th April 2007, 00:57

    yeah like the 1.3 rallye
27. Foggy Established Member Joined: Feb 2007 Coleford, Glos Posts: 1290 Saxo S1400 EVO II, Boosted Partner HDi

    #27 4th April 2007, 01:06

    Its strong reliable power as well. Lots of torque low down, but needs also to be revved like a valver
28. MaRiO89 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7705 Saxo VTS

    #28 4th April 2007, 01:08

    Sounds like an animal tbh! It makes me want to do stuff to my 1360!
29. Foggy Established Member Joined: Feb 2007 Coleford, Glos Posts: 1290 Saxo S1400 EVO II, Boosted Partner HDi

    #29 4th April 2007, 01:40

    Come see us later this month at the Somerset Rally and see it first hand
30. MaRiO89 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7705 Saxo VTS

    #30 4th April 2007, 01:42

    Yeah defo going to the rally, gota get you some decent photo's! Saw it at the wyedean but it was too slippy to see its pace..