Peugeot Master Cylinder

1. craig180p Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper

   #1 4th April 2007, 14:59

   Does anyone know if the Master Cylinder from a 306 diesel will fit to my vts.
   
   Is there anything that needs to be checked on the replacement (any bits that wear away/fail/anything like that???)
2. Yates Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Pompey/Darlo Posts: 31546 MK1 - 1.1 Animal

   #2 4th April 2007, 15:14

   *sits and waits for williams*
3. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

   #3 4th April 2007, 15:18

   whats wrong with your current master cylinder?
4. craig180p Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper

   #4 4th April 2007, 15:29

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Itsafastworld85 whats wrong with your current master cylinder?

   I'm using WP Pro 6 pots and 292mm rotors and the pedal has to be pushed at least half way before they bite!
5. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

   #5 4th April 2007, 15:47

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by saxo180 I'm using WP Pro 6 pots and 292mm rotors and the pedal has to be pushed at least half way before they bite!

   rolf fair enough.. though would be pushing something insane as my 4pots are fine.
6. Gabbastard Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2002 United Kingdom Posts: 8390

   #6 4th April 2007, 23:00

   306 ones fit the servo fine, but you might need to change the resevoir. Cant remember what my master cylinder was off, but its a 23.8mm one, and the resevoir was fucking massive LOL Just change it for the Saxo resevoir.
7. stevenet15 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 aylesbury buckinghamshire Posts: 4822 Astra Turbo, saxo vts, punto turbo

   #7 4th April 2007, 23:10

   yeah the pug res is huge altho u can use it and the bonnet shuts supprisingly but it loos stupid so u need to put the saxo one on and change the seals over like i did
   
   

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by stevenet15 and here is teh gti6 mc with the saxo resivior and saxo res seals on it, its easy to swap over and looks jsut like the noraml setup as its the internals that are bigger

8. Saxo-Slag Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2006 Stockport, Manchester Posts: 5911 Vtr @ 123bhp R.I.P VTS

   #8 5th April 2007, 00:17

   Will fitting these make any difference to standard brake set up
9. stevenet15 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 aylesbury buckinghamshire Posts: 4822 Astra Turbo, saxo vts, punto turbo

   #9 5th April 2007, 09:30

   you dont need it on a standard brake setup the only reason its recommended when fitting 283mm setup is because the calipers pistons are bigger so they require more fluid to push them out so with the standard mc it makes the brake pedal travel more before it brakes (mine was half way down with 283mm and standard mc) but when u fit the 23.8mm mc it removes the brake pedal travel and strats brakign soon as u touch the pedal
10. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #10 5th April 2007, 10:12

    why do you want teh MC off a diesal? it will be same size if not smaller than your vts MC.
11. craig180p Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper

    #11 5th April 2007, 10:20

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by williamsvts why do you want teh MC off a diesal? it will be same size if not smaller than your vts MC.

    I was led to believe that the larger pugs/citroens had larger mc's. Are you saying that the 306 diesel one is the same size as a standard vts one???
12. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #12 5th April 2007, 10:30

    proabably smalleer. it depends what brakes they use to what MC they have. only teh 283mm calipers and above will use that MC, some 266mm brakes aswell.
13. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #13 5th April 2007, 10:30

    i would expect the diesal to have 247mm.
14. Gabbastard Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2002 United Kingdom Posts: 8390

    #14 5th April 2007, 11:38

    Quite a few of the diesels Ive seen in scrappies have 283's. Cant actually remember if they were HDis or Dturbos though.
15. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #15 5th April 2007, 12:12

    they all phase2s?
    suppose it depends what you get it off.
16. rushy_23 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Aug 2004 West Mids Posts: 15392 '98 EK9 N1

    #16 5th April 2007, 16:44

    After reading this thread im wondering if I may need a slightly larger MS for my
    Wilwood 4 pots?
    Or would you reckon I can get away with the standard one?
    
    I sometimes feel that I have to give the pedal a proper push before they will
    give, especially when they were first fitted.
17. stevenet15 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 aylesbury buckinghamshire Posts: 4822 Astra Turbo, saxo vts, punto turbo

    #17 5th April 2007, 17:39

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rushy_23 After reading this thread im wondering if I may need a slightly larger MS for my Wilwood 4 pots? Or would you reckon I can get away with the standard one? I sometimes feel that I have to give the pedal a proper push before they will give, especially when they were first fitted.

    
    
    definatly get a 23mm mc for them, for the sake of £20 u might aswell and it realy needs it on those, u can get away with using the standard one but when u have spent all that money on them willwoods u want it running sweet and the pedel lenth will be shite with standard mc
18. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #18 5th April 2007, 17:40

    some 4 pots are made for standard MC though. not sure about wilwoods.
19. rushy_23 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Aug 2004 West Mids Posts: 15392 '98 EK9 N1

    #19 5th April 2007, 18:07

    Thing is, Rally Design have changed their site and I cant even find my style
    calipers on there anymore.
    Will have to look through my reciepts.