what next for a track vts?

1. RAFkev Established Member Joined: Nov 2005 Wirral Posts: 2198

   #1 5th April 2007, 17:32

   Mods so far...
   
   BMC induction kit
   kent reprofiled cams (misguided mistake i now know!)
   superchip (also a mistake!)
   raceland 4-2-1 manifold
   magnex de-cat
   magnex srtaight through center pipe
   magnex backbox
   lowered 50mm all round (not sure wot on tho!)
   brembo discs and pads up front
   
   
   Coming soon...
   
   s1 rallye gearbox
   stripped out
   
   
   And then...
   
   thinking about more aggressive cams and remap/standalone ECU
   
   you decide!
   
   all ideas welcome
2. CampDavid Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2006 Bedford Posts: 7457 Saxo VTS Peugeot 306 GTI-6 Astra SRI

   #2 5th April 2007, 17:39

   A decent suspension setup and a decent set of brakes would be 10 times better
3. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

   #3 5th April 2007, 17:43

   yar, then i would bin the raceland (await reports of how good it is )
4. Japman Saxperience Addict Joined: May 2006 Costa del Wales Posts: 12393 Spam Wagon

   #4 5th April 2007, 18:22

   willimas-im just about to oder a raceland,whats wrong with it
5. jimbo06 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2006 Sunderland Posts: 3052 52 VTS, 172 Cup

   #5 5th April 2007, 18:29

   yep you definatly need a better suspension set up for serious track use.
6. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

   #6 5th April 2007, 18:30

   good suspension + 4 pots.
   
   then some cams like 708s and remap + a Atb diff if your that serious.
7. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

   #7 5th April 2007, 18:33

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by gavcollier willimas-im just about to oder a raceland,whats wrong with it

   some people like them. my personel opinion is shit build quality and they are made from kit kat wrappers.
8. Japman Saxperience Addict Joined: May 2006 Costa del Wales Posts: 12393 Spam Wagon

   #8 5th April 2007, 18:38

   KIT Kat wrappers pmsl...Seems a good price tho
9. stevenet15 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 aylesbury buckinghamshire Posts: 4822 Astra Turbo, saxo vts, punto turbo

   #9 5th April 2007, 18:41

   yeah i paid £80 for my raceland that had only done 2k before the bloke traded his car in as standard, the welds on my one are great and yeah the metal is thin but i've never had a problem with it and for £80 i cant complain (only £140 brand new) where as other manifolds were nearly twice that
10. Japman Saxperience Addict Joined: May 2006 Costa del Wales Posts: 12393 Spam Wagon

    #10 5th April 2007, 18:46

    I think im still going to get one off Kam-racing anyway.119.99 seems a good price to me
11. Toad Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 Reading Posts: 8980 French tin can

    #11 5th April 2007, 19:00

    I'm using a Supersprint 4-2-1, no complaints from me...
12. Toad Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 Reading Posts: 8980 French tin can

    #12 5th April 2007, 19:21

    Oh yeah, answer to your first question is: Lessons.
13. bullit Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2005 e-hollywood Posts: 17160 toyata hilux

    #13 5th April 2007, 19:23

    i will agree as whats been said. 4 pots and decent suspension without doubt
14. RAFkev Established Member Joined: Nov 2005 Wirral Posts: 2198

    #14 5th April 2007, 22:07

    cheers guys.
    
    hadn't really thought about changing the suspension. its pretty good as is tbh. its stiff as fook. just not sure wot make the shocks and springs are. oh yeah i forgot to mention i have an E-Tech top strut brace also.
    
    any recommendations on brakes? (i know we're in the wrong forum for brake talk but sod it!)
15. Ste Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 Yorkshire Posts: 5415 Saxo

    #15 5th April 2007, 22:14

    Roll cage, slicks & nos....
16. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #16 5th April 2007, 22:27

    raceland manifolds from ones i have seen in person look shit build quality! where tubes come up and welded to bracket (dont know technical name) where meets the engine, the tubes are not flush just randamly welded together, will do a diagram!
17. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #17 5th April 2007, 22:31

    The awesome diagram
    
    
    
    Not saying all are like that, and if they are rubbish for performance.... But is a fact that shoddy build quality on the ones i have seen.... Richies is the same, banger_vtr will know as it was his
18. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #18 5th April 2007, 23:08

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ste_1 Roll cage, slicks & nos....

    if you havent got top dollar suspension slicks will just fuck what suspension you have.
    
    just because its stiff doesnt mean its good. find out what you have before splashing out.
19. bullit Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2005 e-hollywood Posts: 17160 toyata hilux

    #19 6th April 2007, 00:28

    4 pot wise. willwood or hispec are popular cause of the price. otherwise one of williams gti setups
20. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #20 6th April 2007, 02:54

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ste_1 Roll cage, slicks & nos....

    which will do alot lol!!!
    
    ever heard of grip roll??..
    
    ffs.. so many.............................who give out advice which can be potentially dangerous.
    
    they really should learn.
21. bullit Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2005 e-hollywood Posts: 17160 toyata hilux

    #21 6th April 2007, 06:56

    even if you had top dollar suspension, slicks would rip your car in half
    ryan everyone just likes guessing
22. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #22 6th April 2007, 11:44

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bullit ryan everyone just likes guessing

    
    which is the problem... o let me take a guess because i read the word in max power so it must be good.
    
    guess work can be potentially dangerous especially when its with someone who is looking at doing track days. I personally would keep my mouth shut rather than guessing just to boost my post count.
23. Yates Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Pompey/Darlo Posts: 31546 MK1 - 1.1 Animal

    #23 6th April 2007, 11:54

    neons and fog lights
24. user_7076 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Sep 2005 Milton Keynes Posts: 8504 Audi A1 S-Line, Mazda MX5 Kuro, Renault Clio 1.2,

    #24 6th April 2007, 11:56

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by williamsvts some people like them. my personel opinion is shit build quality and they are made from kit kat wrappers.

    the plastic is quite high durable actually, mines taken alot of abuse.