pic request please

  1. Regular Poster Joined: Oct 2006 Stoke-On-Trent Posts: 303 mango 1.4i furio
    #1
    might be in the wrong section so sorry if it is! anyway im after pics of engine bays from you people that have open air filters, id like to know if they can be located nearer to the front grille somehow or maybe at the front of the passenger side wheels arch to maximize the amount of cold air feed!
  2. Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut
    #2
    open filters are crap..

    buy a decent one. simple.
  3. Regular Poster Joined: Oct 2006 Stoke-On-Trent Posts: 303 mango 1.4i furio
    #3
    i want sound though mate, and as long as performance isnt affected it will do.
  4. Super Moderator Joined: Mar 2003 Durham (England) Posts: 37932 1. AX 2. Mk2 Saxo VTR 3. MK4 R32 DBP
    #4
    open filter with a few cold air feeds
  5. Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut
    #5
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by JayTfurio View Post
    i want sound though mate, and as long as performance isnt affected it will do.
    open filters do effect performance. they draw in hot air, adding cold air feeds still wont stop the heat soak.
  6. Super Moderator Joined: Mar 2003 Durham (England) Posts: 37932 1. AX 2. Mk2 Saxo VTR 3. MK4 R32 DBP
    #6
    whack a heat shiled around it too
  7. Regular Poster Joined: Oct 2006 Stoke-On-Trent Posts: 303 mango 1.4i furio
    #7
    it will reduce heat soak dramatically though if its located in a decent place!
  8. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Sep 2005 Milton Keynes Posts: 8504 Audi A1 S-Line, Mazda MX5 Kuro, Renault Clio 1.2,
    #8
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by JayTfurio View Post
    it will reduce heat soak dramatically though if its located in a decent place!
    this is very true - there's only so much a heat shield can do as well. Even the enclosed induction kits also experience heat soak to some extent.
  9. Regular Poster Joined: Oct 2006 Stoke-On-Trent Posts: 303 mango 1.4i furio
    #9
    snewham, i agree with that statement you just made, surely air traveling down a heated carbon tube will warm up a bit!
  10. Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut
    #10
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by JayTfurio View Post
    snewham, i agree with that statement you just made, surely air traveling down a heated carbon tube will warm up a bit!
    the air going into the filter to start with will have had less heat soak, than a open filter relocated - then your still going to get further increase in gas temps as it travels down the induction system itself.

    having a filter set low also increases the chances of water getting sucked into the engine in winter (as shown when someone relocated a viper low down and had a nice blown engine from it)

    Im also a beliver in the way the gas velocity is increased in filter systems like the green enclosed and a procomp, something you wont get as much with an open filter with ducting going to it....

    dont be a cheap skate..
  11. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2006 West Sussex Posts: 6280 Mk2 Saxo Vts
    #11
    If he wants just sound then an open filter is the way for him, imo anyway.

    It will slow your car down but you will hardly notice it!
  12. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2006 Dartford Kent Posts: 5251 Pug 1007 HDi Sport (daily) / Abarth 500
    #12
    This was my open 106 GTi item with a Heat shield and a cold air feed that fitted through the bottom of the heat shield. I personally found the cone to be alittle better at low revs ie round town, but I have a scoop as well which I found to be better at mid to high gains in the rev range.

    heres pics of both

    Open



    Closed



    If your on a tight budget then a open filter is fine (as long as you have a good cold air supply) if you have more money to spare then buy the best you can afford ie BMC or a RaceLand item with a Green Cotton filter inside from www.Kam-Racing.com