Cam's on my VTS

1. nassso Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 187

   #1 11th April 2007, 11:50

   Hi,
   I bought my cams from newman. Next step is fitting and preparing the rest of the engine and i need your advice and opinion.
   
   Here is what i am going to do:
   1. Newman Phase 3 inlet cam Phase 1 exhaust cam
   2. Ported and polished head.
   3. Porting the throttle body to 56mm
   4. Modify the stock air box and adding K&N panel filter
   5. Changing the exhaust system with larger diameter of the pipe 54mm
   6. Stock manifold
   
   Here is some projects with similar specifications to what i want to do:
   www.lioliosracing.gr/m...42〈=en
   
   As i see the OEM manifold is good enough and it's possible to gain over 170hp with it.
2. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

   #2 11th April 2007, 11:53

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by nassso Hi, I bought my cams from newman. Next step is fitting and preparing the rest of the engine and i need your advice and opinion. Here is what i am going to do: 1. Newman Phase 3 inlet cam Phase 1 exhaust cam 2. Ported and polished head. 3. Porting the throttle body to 56mm 4. Modify the stock air box and adding K&N panel filter 5. Changing the exhaust system with larger diameter of the pipe 54mm 6. Stock manifold Here is some projects with similar specifications to what i want to do: www.lioliosracing.gr/m...42〈=en As i see the OEM manifold is good enough and it's possible to gain over 170hp with it.

   
   so what is the point of this thread dude??
   
   is it asking for advice or just telling us what your going to do?
   
   170+ on standard inlet is very very rare btw...
   
   why are you wanting to run a standard manifold with small ports?
3. nassso Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 187

   #3 11th April 2007, 12:06

   I am interested what do you think. If it's possible or not because this is the only case i had seen with gains like this. And what i am really impressed is that they use OEM manifold.
4. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

   #4 11th April 2007, 12:13

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by nassso I am interested what do you think. If it's possible or not because this is the only case i had seen with gains like this. And what i am really impressed is that they use OEM manifold.

   there are different grinds of cams remeber, how do you know that they are not on a custom grind cam to produce that power?
   
   i personally wouldnt get my hopes up to see 170+ although in theroy it can be done.
   
   i am not a fan of polishing the throttle body to be honest.
   
   and the headwork your doing seems quite mild to. i would speak to qep about the sort of headwork to go for as theyre the daddies.
5. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

   #5 11th April 2007, 12:14

   them cars seem to make good power, all measured on the same rolling road dyno??
   
   will you be matching the manifold ports to the head?
6. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

   #6 11th April 2007, 12:15

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Itsafastworld85 there are different grinds of cams remeber, how do you know that they are not on a custom grind cam to produce that power? i personally wouldnt get my hopes up to see 170+ although in theroy it can be done. i am not a fan of polishing the throttle body to be honest. and the headwork your doing seems quite mild to. i would speak to qep about the sort of headwork to go for as theyre the daddies.

   
   the cam spec is on that site, the use a phs 3 inlet and phs 2 exhaust iirc, havent had a look at that site for a while. i was interested in why they do that and if it does actually have any benefit over a 'normal' cam package.
7. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

   #7 11th April 2007, 12:17

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by williamsvts the cam spec is on that site, the use a phs 3 inlet and phs 2 exhaust iirc, havent had a look at that site for a while. i was interested in why they do that and if it does actually have any benefit over a 'normal' cam package.

   
   when i checked it just had cam info - newmans.. although couldnt be bothered to check most because most is still greek lol...
8. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

   #8 11th April 2007, 12:19

   select the english option then
9. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

   #9 11th April 2007, 12:20

   seems to have changed a little, it used to have teh cam specs on.
10. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #10 11th April 2007, 12:20

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by williamsvts select the english option then

    
    i did!! but most the info is still not in english only select parts.
11. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #11 11th April 2007, 12:21

    well it kept resetting itself back into greek.. trying to sort it now...
    
    the links on the right kept sending it back into greek.
12. nassso Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 187

    #12 11th April 2007, 12:27

    When you use smaller phase on the exhaust cam you will have better power band 2500-7000 instead 3000-7000 for standart cams. Also the idle will be better.
13. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #13 11th April 2007, 12:30

    i see that on different set ups like the 168 they use supersprint fannymould..
14. nassso Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 187

    #14 11th April 2007, 12:39

    Yes in this setup they sprint manifold but it's their earlier project. In their later projects they use OEM manifold.
15. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #15 11th April 2007, 12:59

    im just sceptical about all the details they release.. most companies wont tell all secrets imo..
16. nassso Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 187

    #16 11th April 2007, 13:08

    Probably they are hiding something
17. MaRiO89 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7705 Saxo VTS

    #17 11th April 2007, 13:23

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Itsafastworld85 i did!! but most the info is still not in english only select parts.

    
    Learn greek then! Only takes 5 mins..
18. nassso Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 187

    #18 11th April 2007, 14:45

    Do you think this mod will have some effect?
    
    Changing the stock exhaust pipe to 55mm and matching manifold ports to the head ports.
19. bullit Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2005 e-hollywood Posts: 17160 toyata hilux

    #19 11th April 2007, 18:42

    standard fanny is pants, that is all