New Clutch Advice

1. Saint Established Member Joined: Jul 2005 Wrexham United Kingdom (Wales) Posts: 1127 Phase 2 Saxo VTR

   #1 11th April 2007, 12:41

   Anyone here know if there is a tried an tested uprated clutch around for the VTR? (2002 Silver Top)
   
   Thrust bearing is being a nosy son of a Bi**h! so looking to get it replaced and new clutch while im at it .
   
   Not looking for full on group n rally stuff, somet simple but tad uprated. spotted the black diamond gear which isnt too exspensive so tempted if funds stretch may get a B&M short shift while im at it
2. saxodan Saxperience Addict Joined: Mar 2006 Leeds Posts: 10616 Golf

   #2 11th April 2007, 12:44

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Saint Anyone here know if there is a tried an tested uprated clutch around for the VTR? (2002 Silver Top) Thrust bearing is being a nosy son of a Bi**h! so looking to get it replaced and new clutch while im at it . Not looking for full on group n rally stuff, somet simple but tad uprated. spotted the black diamond gear which isnt too exspensive so tempted if funds stretch may get a B&M short shift while im at it

   My release bearing squeeks like a mofo, how od I sort it out without paying for a new clutch?
3. hesslevtr Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2004 Hull (England) Posts: 18709 1.6 vtr

   #3 11th April 2007, 12:45

   dont waste your money on a blackdiamond or any make like that there just reconditioned ones and wont last
   
   get an LUK or VALEO
4. CampDavid Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2006 Bedford Posts: 7457 Saxo VTS Peugeot 306 GTI-6 Astra SRI

   #4 11th April 2007, 12:49

   Valeo/LUK is fine. If the release bearing queeks you can just replace that, though its still a ballache so may as well do the whole lot
5. saxodan Saxperience Addict Joined: Mar 2006 Leeds Posts: 10616 Golf

   #5 11th April 2007, 12:51

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by CampDavid Valeo/LUK is fine. If the release bearing queeks you can just replace that, though its still a ballache so may as well do the whole lot

   How much is a clutch release bearing to fix?
   
   How many hours labour?
   
   How much for the relase bearing?
6. Saint Established Member Joined: Jul 2005 Wrexham United Kingdom (Wales) Posts: 1127 Phase 2 Saxo VTR

   #6 11th April 2007, 12:51

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by CampDavid Valeo/LUK is fine. If the release bearing queeks you can just replace that, though its still a ballache so may as well do the whole lot

   Yeah basically im going down the route of "while its out" replacement lot of labour to get just the bearing changed so might as well uprate it a tad
   
   so reckon just stick to standard valeo one?
7. hesslevtr Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2004 Hull (England) Posts: 18709 1.6 vtr

   #7 11th April 2007, 12:52

   about 20 for the release bearing the box needs to come out will probley cost you an extra £50 to replace clutch so might aswell get the clutch done
8. Saint Established Member Joined: Jul 2005 Wrexham United Kingdom (Wales) Posts: 1127 Phase 2 Saxo VTR

   #8 11th April 2007, 12:53

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by saxodan How much is a clutch release bearing to fix? How many hours labour? How much for the relase bearing?

   
   fair few hours labour cause they gotta pull the clutch out, and then refit
   
   god knows how much the bearing costs mind
9. saxodan Saxperience Addict Joined: Mar 2006 Leeds Posts: 10616 Golf

   #9 11th April 2007, 12:53

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by hesslevtr about 20 for the release bearing the box needs to come out will probley cost you an extra £50 to replace clutch so might aswell get the clutch done

   Soryr to be a pain but can you break it down?
   
   So one release bearing and fitting = £70? ( £20 parts and £50 labour?)
   
   How much is a clutch and how much is labour on that?
10. hesslevtr Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2004 Hull (England) Posts: 18709 1.6 vtr

    #10 11th April 2007, 12:53

    valeo or LUK will be fine both top clutch kits
11. hesslevtr Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2004 Hull (England) Posts: 18709 1.6 vtr

    #11 11th April 2007, 12:54

    box out will be around 100+
    
    bearing around 20ish
    
    cluthch kit what includes bearing around 70 odd
12. saxodan Saxperience Addict Joined: Mar 2006 Leeds Posts: 10616 Golf

    #12 11th April 2007, 12:56

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by hesslevtr box out will be around 100+ bearing around 20ish cluthch kit what includes bearing around 70 odd

    Right so £70 for a whole new clutch kit..
    
    And fititng on that would be around..??
    
    How long will a squeeky bearing last for??
    
    Cheers hessle
13. hesslevtr Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2004 Hull (England) Posts: 18709 1.6 vtr

    #13 11th April 2007, 12:57

    i have no idea of how long it will it last for how longs a piece of string
    
    a new clutch in a saxo will be around 150+ thats fitting and everything
14. Saint Established Member Joined: Jul 2005 Wrexham United Kingdom (Wales) Posts: 1127 Phase 2 Saxo VTR

    #14 11th April 2007, 12:58

    just found a LUK one - https://sslrelay.com/buypartsby.co.u...?recordID=1031
    
    nice price tbh.
    
    so no decent ish performance ones?
15. saxodan Saxperience Addict Joined: Mar 2006 Leeds Posts: 10616 Golf

    #15 11th April 2007, 12:58

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by hesslevtr i have no idea of how long it will it last for how longs a piece of string a new clutch in a saxo will be around 150+ thats fitting and everything

    twice the length from the middle to the end
    
    Only joking
    
    Cheers Hessle, rep for you young man
16. Saint Established Member Joined: Jul 2005 Wrexham United Kingdom (Wales) Posts: 1127 Phase 2 Saxo VTR

    #16 11th April 2007, 12:59

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by saxodan Right so £70 for a whole new clutch kit.. And fititng on that would be around..?? How long will a squeeky bearing last for?? Cheers hessle

    squeaky bearing will stay squeaky, tbh mines gotten worse where it squeaks non stop now
    
    fitting be same as removal price probably.
17. hesslevtr Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2004 Hull (England) Posts: 18709 1.6 vtr

    #17 11th April 2007, 13:00

    if the bearing is squeeking and ratteling id get it replaced asap as if not you run the risk of the bearing splitting and sending ball bearings everywere in the gearbox and could damage the gearbox which will cost more money to repair
18. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #18 11th April 2007, 13:01

    standard valeo clutches are more than up to the job.
19. saxodan Saxperience Addict Joined: Mar 2006 Leeds Posts: 10616 Golf

    #19 11th April 2007, 13:01

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Saint squeaky bearing will stay squeaky, tbh mines gotten worse where it squeaks non stop now fitting be same as removal price probably.

    Well the thing is I leave for uni in sep so will be selling that car, IM just wonderding if it will affect that car or damage it??
    
    Cant justify £150 tbh when im leaving soon
20. hesslevtr Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2004 Hull (England) Posts: 18709 1.6 vtr

    #20 11th April 2007, 13:02

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by saxodan Well the thing is I leave for uni in sep so will be selling that car, IM just wonderding if it will affect that car or damage it?? Cant justify £150 tbh when im leaving soon

    get a cheap 1 then or just replace the bearing if not keeping it
21. saxodan Saxperience Addict Joined: Mar 2006 Leeds Posts: 10616 Golf

    #21 11th April 2007, 13:03

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by hesslevtr get a cheap 1 then or just replace the bearing if not keeping it

    but as you said, fitting on the bearing is expensive as fook
    
    appart from the car is sound and will sell no probs with 12 months mot slapped on
22. hesslevtr Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2004 Hull (England) Posts: 18709 1.6 vtr

    #22 11th April 2007, 13:06

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by saxodan but as you said, fitting on the bearing is expensive as fook appart from the car is sound and will sell no probs with 12 months mot slapped on

    well thats upto you what you do with it but if you leave it you run the risk of it going and causing more damage and costing more money
    
    + if the person knows what there looking for they might not buy the car cause of the noise
23. Saint Established Member Joined: Jul 2005 Wrexham United Kingdom (Wales) Posts: 1127 Phase 2 Saxo VTR

    #23 11th April 2007, 13:07

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by hesslevtr if the bearing is squeeking and ratteling id get it replaced asap as if not you run the risk of the bearing splitting and sending ball bearings everywere in the gearbox and could damage the gearbox which will cost more money to repair

    meh! time to get it done asap then cheers for the help mate will probably get it ordered for end the month to get done then. trying to finish modding the car for the show season while servicing is a bitch