people thought Z cars wer crazy puttin type R engines in saxo's

1. Perky Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2006 preston Posts: 742 car....... ha, ha 151,000 pound mortgage

   #1 18th April 2007, 18:20

   check this 700 bhp supra turbo engine.... in a 205
   
2. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

   #2 18th April 2007, 18:22

   reposted off ssc from days ago.
   
   has the prop shaft uncovered.
3. hesslevtr Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2004 Hull (England) Posts: 18709 1.6 vtr

   #3 18th April 2007, 18:23

   will the bonnet shut
   
   looks nice though needs bigger arches on the rear to
4. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

   #4 18th April 2007, 18:26

   why does it warrant bigger arches??which will increase drag??
   
   its a drag car not a style car.
5. hesslevtr Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2004 Hull (England) Posts: 18709 1.6 vtr

   #5 18th April 2007, 19:24

   looks odd with bigger arches on the front then rear
   
   why have arches at all then as it will reduce drag even more
   
   having no bennet and lights will cause drag to
6. Predator_R32p Super Moderator Joined: Mar 2003 Durham (England) Posts: 37932 1. AX 2. Mk2 Saxo VTR 3. MK4 R32 DBP

   #6 18th April 2007, 19:26

   looks really weird, no pint if you cant get a bonnet on it, aero dynamics matter too
7. Danr Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2006 Charming man Posts: 15880 Charming car

   #7 18th April 2007, 19:28

   That is imense, i fancy it for my trip to the shops
8. flee123 Frequent Poster Joined: Jul 2006 Consett, County Durham Posts: 673 Wicked Red VTR

   #8 18th April 2007, 19:33

   Someone bought Redline this month. Big balls for doing it and I bet it is RAPID but still looks like a load of shit.
9. tweeqd Established Member Joined: Mar 2006 Farnham Surrey Posts: 1542 AX GT 16v turbo 6 speed with NOS 205 gti6 E 320

   #9 18th April 2007, 19:54

   saw build pics of this a few years ago and wondered if it got finished
   
   
   
   
10. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

    #10 18th April 2007, 19:57

    I don't like the concept but its quite an engineering achievement getting it to fit. Definately for drag only as it'll handle like a turkey on the bends lol
11. mattcp Established Member Joined: Aug 2006 Essex Posts: 1029

    #11 18th April 2007, 20:06

    I just did the bigest smile! That's something erm... different!?!?
12. S34MER East Midlands Joined: Jun 2006 Derby Posts: 8305 Skoda Fabia VRS

    #12 18th April 2007, 20:32

    bloody norah! that is some achievement getting that lump in there!
13. Aron Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2007 Nuneaton Posts: 3554 EP3 Civic

    #13 18th April 2007, 21:22

    that realy is an engineering madness. but looks amazing
14. dave1 Regular Poster Joined: Oct 2006 southall Posts: 324 mini cooper s

    #14 18th April 2007, 21:24

    i like that what is the 0-60
15. Ste Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 Yorkshire Posts: 5415 Saxo

    #15 18th April 2007, 21:39

    Anyone got the official webby of this or build story??
16. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

    #16 18th April 2007, 21:41

    from the picture I'd guess perhaps .. www.team-auvergnate.com
17. tweeqd Established Member Joined: Mar 2006 Farnham Surrey Posts: 1542 AX GT 16v turbo 6 speed with NOS 205 gti6 E 320

    #17 18th April 2007, 21:43

    http://team-auvergnate.goodbb.net/Vo...ags-t288-0.htm
18. stevenet15 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 aylesbury buckinghamshire Posts: 4822 Astra Turbo, saxo vts, punto turbo

    #18 18th April 2007, 21:54

    anyone got the link to the orrigional fourm thread of the build? i had it before but lost it and it was differnt from the one posted up above
19. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #19 18th April 2007, 22:43

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by hesslevtr looks odd with bigger arches on the front then rear why have arches at all then as it will reduce drag even more having no bennet and lights will cause drag to

    no totally wrong, sometimes a small arch will deflect the wind enough over the wheels without increasing drag, a huge arch would however act as a sail.
    
    i would expect a bonnet to be used even if it has holes cut for the blower.
20. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

    #20 18th April 2007, 22:45

    a lot of race cars nowadays have the back of the arch cut away
21. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #21 18th April 2007, 22:52

    my point though.. that theyre there for areo effect if theyre there not for style whore nonsense.
22. thoms04 Frequent Poster Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 650

    #22 18th April 2007, 23:04

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23. hesslevtr Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2004 Hull (England) Posts: 18709 1.6 vtr

    #23 18th April 2007, 23:05

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Itsafastworld85 my point though.. that theyre there for areo effect if theyre there not for style whore nonsense.

    yes but my point was it looks odd with little arches at the rear
    
    if he was going for drag and aerodynamics a 205 isnt the best to chose is it
24. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #24 18th April 2007, 23:10

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by hesslevtr yes but my point was it looks odd with little arches at the rear if he was going for drag and aerodynamics a 205 isnt the best to chose is it

    why not? its not an un areodynmamic car. and it totally depends on the class that the car may be built for. There are to many little pieces of info that you can speculate over until anyone actually speaks to the owner/builder.
25. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #25 18th April 2007, 23:11

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by thoms04 F**k drag when u've got 700 little horses under the bonnet!

    700bhp means nothing if you have enough drag. a car with 450bhp could kill it if it had a better areo effect
26. TU-Tuning Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2006 Bristol Posts: 16575 JP4urio, 306 DTurbo SportShed

    #26 18th April 2007, 23:19

    Thats awesome. doesnt look quite right as its in bits at the mo lol
27. TU-Tuning Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2006 Bristol Posts: 16575 JP4urio, 306 DTurbo SportShed

    #27 18th April 2007, 23:33

    . i can see its impressive, i do realise that 205s didnt come with the Supra Conversion option. But visually, as it would to a 'normal' person who isnt into tuning drag cars, it doesnt look quite right yet because the hoods missing and theres pripework everywher so it needs finishing as it looks odd
28. TU-Tuning Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2006 Bristol Posts: 16575 JP4urio, 306 DTurbo SportShed

    #28 18th April 2007, 23:36

    aerodynamically wouldnt it have made more sense to go in the back end aswell? as the bonnets gonna stick out now
29. thoms04 Frequent Poster Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 650

    #29 18th April 2007, 23:37

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30. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #30 18th April 2007, 23:39

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by thoms04 lmao ok mate over a quarter mile drag isn't the be all an end all. My mate ran with his bonnet off in his clio turbo and knocked 0.2 secs off his time.

    a clio is running slightly different times to a highly modified drag car 2bh mate.
    i did not say it was the b all and end all, traction and gearing are very key, but there is a large gain to be made on getting the car to perform well in the air, exactly why most drag racers in top fuel are styled how they are.
31. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #31 18th April 2007, 23:41

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ben_Saxo ah right my bad see what ya mean now lol. aerodynamically wouldnt it have made more sense to go in the back end aswell? as the bonnets gonna stick out now

    then you run into differences in class, and possibly traction etc.
    
    as i said in a previous post theres lots of variables that can be discussed as no one knows the owner.
32. thoms04 Frequent Poster Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 650

    #32 18th April 2007, 23:43

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33. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #33 18th April 2007, 23:46

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by thoms04 exactly ....... doesn't look like its a drag car to me. I didn't realise you had a PHD in motorsport physics and built drag cars for a living. as said before a 205 isn't exactly the best choice for a drag car ..... my guess is that the people who built it ....... couldn't give a toss

    
    have a friend who works for a drag team, also have been heavily involved with motorsport since i was a young age and read into areodynamics as its something that interested me quite alot.
    
    but then again i rest my case with you lot. you wont listen to information just want to make lame comments.
34. TU-Tuning Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2006 Bristol Posts: 16575 JP4urio, 306 DTurbo SportShed

    #34 18th April 2007, 23:47

    Ive got respect for you, you know your shit, but chill out. This isnt and never will be a hardcore tuning forum, everything doesnt have to be taken so seriously mate
35. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #35 18th April 2007, 23:48

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ben_Saxo Ive got respect for you, you know your shit, but chill out. This isnt and never will be a hardcore tuning forum, everything doesnt have to be taken so seriously mate

    im not taking it seriously, im trying to make a comment on why stuff may have been done how it was done, and effects of such things on a vehicle.
    
    rather than just looking at it how i see it and going o thats shit, i thought that giving some feedback would be of interest to some people.
36. thoms04 Frequent Poster Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 650

    #36 18th April 2007, 23:51

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37. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #37 18th April 2007, 23:54

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by thoms04 lol chill man ........ you just need to let others have their own views with out telling them they're wrong all the time.

    if you read my statements you will see that there are lots of variables that are debated until anyone had spoken to the owner over to find out why it was done.
    
    my points were to give information as to WHY it may have been done. it has been others who have said that i was talking shite!
38. MaRiO89 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7705 Saxo VTS

    #38 19th April 2007, 00:05

    Love that 205, reallt good engineering excercise.
    
    This last page was a good read too.
39. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #39 19th April 2007, 00:42

    lol you love reading banter james! i think you know i like to make people aware of all circumstances before people jump to a decision.
40. MaRiO89 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7705 Saxo VTS

    #40 19th April 2007, 10:59

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Itsafastworld85 lol you love reading banter james! i think you know i like to make people aware of all circumstances before people jump to a decision.

    lol.
    
    Yeah i have to agree with you on that one! I have experienced you myself. All in the past now though.