0-60

  1. Newbie Joined: Apr 2007 surrey Posts: 26 saxo vtr (2003) black
    #1
    what are a few things i can do to my 1.6i 8v (03) citreon saxo to improve its 0-60???
  2. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2003 Middlesbrough United Kingdom (England) Posts: 23676 Seat Leon FR
    #2
    Well what have you done to it so far, performance wise?

    Stripping it out is a good place to start.
  3. Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2007 STONE, STAFFORDSHIRE Posts: 141 Mk1 Saxo vtr
    #3
    could do usaul things new sports exhaust system , enclosed induction kit then if you want to spend a bit of money buy some new cams
  4. Newbie Joined: Apr 2007 surrey Posts: 26 saxo vtr (2003) black
    #4
    well i havent done anything yet but i wanna spend lol!
  5. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2006 Sunderland Posts: 3052 52 VTS, 172 Cup
    #5
    strip it out, get a decent manifold, exhaust system, induction kit first of all.
  6. Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2007 STONE, STAFFORDSHIRE Posts: 141 Mk1 Saxo vtr
    #6
    go for new cams , cold air feed induction kit and a whole new exhaust system
  7. Newbie Joined: Apr 2007 surrey Posts: 26 saxo vtr (2003) black
    #7
    and also, well fitting an uprated air filter panel give is a sporteir engine note???
  8. Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)
    #8
    road legal slicks and a decent clutch, then prepare to be amazed at the difference
  9. Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2007 STONE, STAFFORDSHIRE Posts: 141 Mk1 Saxo vtr
    #9
    maybe depends how much you want to spend but a open induction kit gives it a sporty sound when ya put your foot down but for better performance get a enclosed 1 mate
  10. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5
    #10
    why were my posts deleted?

    as i said in post that was deleted, strip weight from the car as it is free (back seats). Improve your clutch control, dont hit the limiter as power is normally dropping off by this point, should be able to feel it.

    Get some breathing mods i.e manifold , exhaust system, air intake sorted.
    Have a search around see what induction kits people use and exhaust systems. Most will say bmc or raceland enclosed with a green filter.
    Some decent tyres as well, as stated above.
  11. Newbie Joined: Apr 2007 surrey Posts: 26 saxo vtr (2003) black
    #11
    road legal slicks i like the sound of them where can i g

    rab myself some of them and how much will i be out of pocket??? arnt race cluthes like 3k lol?!?!?
  12. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2006 North East Posts: 5289
    #12
    Get a vts engine even after the cams and all these goodies the vts will show you who the boss is
  13. Newbie Joined: Apr 2007 surrey Posts: 26 saxo vtr (2003) black
    #13
    yea i noticed after 6000rpm yr heads going forwards not backwards...so these slicks seem like the most sensible thing im to scared with this induction kits i think its aimed to typical boy-racers.....rather than someone who wants a half decant power band.
  14. Administrator Joined: Dec 2002 Glasgow United Kingdom (Scotland) Posts: 26097 Chelski Traktor
    #14
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Steve_VTR View Post
    why were my posts deleted?

    as i said in post that was deleted,
    you posted in the other thread numpty
  15. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5
    #15
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Steve_VTR View Post
    why were my posts deleted?

    as i said in post that was deleted, strip weight from the car as it is free (back seats). Improve your clutch control, dont hit the limiter as power is normally dropping off by this point, should be able to feel it.

    Get some breathing mods i.e manifold , exhaust system, air intake sorted.
    Have a search around see what induction kits people use and exhaust systems. Most will say bmc or raceland enclosed with a green filter.
    Some decent tyres as well, as stated above.
    were not deleted there is two threads get the other one closed
  16. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5
    #16
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Scott View Post
    you posted in the other thread numpty
    just realised there scott haha
  17. Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)
    #17
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by saxiboi View Post
    road legal slicks i like the sound of them where can i g

    rab myself some of them and how much will i be out of pocket??? arnt race cluthes like 3k lol?!?!?
    a paddle clutch and uprated clutchplate would at a guess cost you about £300. road legal slicks will be about £110 per wheel for a 15" wheel

    To add to the cheap mod pile how about 13" alloys and lowish profile wheels. This will lower the gearing, be less rotational weight so you will accelerate quicker!
  18. Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2007 STONE, STAFFORDSHIRE Posts: 141 Mk1 Saxo vtr
    #18
    not just for boy racers mate just giving better air flow to the engine
  19. Newbie Joined: Apr 2007 surrey Posts: 26 saxo vtr (2003) black
    #19
    right ok so:


    sport manifold down , including de-cat 3"??? i dont care about wat it looks like or sounds.....want the 0-60

    inclosed air intake preventing heat...

    uprated cams


    so its now producing 99 bhp will these get it over 100???
  20. Newbie Joined: Apr 2007 surrey Posts: 26 saxo vtr (2003) black
    #20
    they come with 13 inch wheels standerd lmao
  21. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26
    #21
    what do?

    VTR wheels are 14s.

    try changing at 5,600 rpm for optimum peformance?
  22. Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)
    #22
    lol opps!
    10" minilites it is then
  23. Newbie Joined: Apr 2007 surrey Posts: 26 saxo vtr (2003) black
    #23
    well i gota go now, cheers for the help guys love the sound of the slicks....and the de-cat!!!!!!!
  24. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2004 Hull (England) Posts: 18709 1.6 vtr
    #24
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by saxiboi View Post
    they come with 13 inch wheels standerd lmao
    vtrs dont

    what budget you have and what do you expect to take off the time
  25. Newbie Joined: Apr 2007 surrey Posts: 26 saxo vtr (2003) black
    #25
    ahh 14 my bad eek!!!! ok so 10s it is hahahah!!!!! not a serius buget probs £1000 max!?!? love to get a second off lol
  26. Established Member Joined: Jul 2006 BLACKBURN Posts: 1216 BLACK MK2 VTR, MK1 POSI VTS
    #26
    This Thread Is On Every Day!
  27. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2004 Hull (England) Posts: 18709 1.6 vtr
    #27
    id strip as much as you possibly can out of it

    lower ratio gearbox

    some decent tyres

    decent manifold and second hand exhaust of a decent sort
  28. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7705 Saxo VTS
    #28
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by sy_VTR View Post
    This Thread Is On Every Day!

    LOL, so true!
  29. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5
    #29
    if you change the manifold on your car that will de-cat it, decent zorst system and induction kit i can see it producing more than 100bhp as standard your model is meant to be 98bhp..... so they say....
    with cams you will certainly be over the 100bhp mark.

    But after all that money spent would be cheaper for performance to get a vts engine but thats not what everyone wants to do
  30. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7705 Saxo VTS
    #30
    If your engine is 98 bhp standard you would be looking at 120bhp atleast with exhaust, mani, cam and remap!!
  31. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2004 Hull (England) Posts: 18709 1.6 vtr
    #31
    he needs torque to get him to 60 qucikly forget about bhp
  32. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2006 Dartford Kent Posts: 5251 Pug 1007 HDi Sport (daily) / Abarth 500
    #32
    Sourch a set of light weight 106rallye Steel rims, Decent tyres, strip everything out apart from your drivers seat and the dash, a RaceLand 4-2-1 4branch manifold and a Ashley cat back exhaust system and your lookin around £150 Ashley system, £130 4branch, £37per steelie and whatever tyres cost So for like £400 you could be postin some very impressive times.
  33. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7705 Saxo VTS
    #33
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by hesslevtr View Post
    he needs torque to get him to 60 qucikly forget about bhp
    More bhp will help if you launch it at say 3500rpm..
  34. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2004 Hull (England) Posts: 18709 1.6 vtr
    #34
    torque is what moves the car without that you will be fooked
  35. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7705 Saxo VTS
    #35
    Yeah i agree.

    But

    Most mods improve BHP not torque so much and like i said launch at 3.5k and your away.
  36. Newbie Joined: Apr 2007 surrey Posts: 26 saxo vtr (2003) black
    #36
    ok , ok i just fitted a cold air intake...

    no noticle performance apart from a sexual growl...

    what next???
  37. Infrequent Poster Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 148 Pink Saxo VTR
    #37
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by James_Bristol View Post
    Yeah i agree.

    But

    Most mods improve BHP not torque so much and like i said launch at 3.5k and your away.
    WHAT?!?! lol
    James.... the only thing an engine produces is torque, therefore any mods to the engine, intake, exhaust will affect the torque... the only exception is the upping of the rev limiter, provided the cams and ignition timings are able to provide sufficent torque at uber high revs.

    hp is a function of engine rpm and torque.

    btw Im just chilling from revision. im doing well.
  38. East Midlands Joined: Jun 2006 Derby Posts: 8305 Skoda Fabia VRS
    #38
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by saxosxi View Post
    go for new cams , cold air feed induction kit and a whole new exhaust system
    its cam mate NOT cams! the VTR is 8v which means single cam the S is 16v and has twin cams

    but to answer the original question, get yourself a full cat back exhaust system, and a 4-2-1 manifold, these along with a decent enclosed induction kit will allow your car to braeth better and increase acceleration, but the best mod of all for improving 0-60 times is to strip it out right to the shell! so carpets, rear seats, dash board etc, depends how wild you wanna go with it and what its for!

    obviously if its for road use you might wanna keep it legal and leave the dash in

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by chloesax View Post
    WHAT?!?! lol
    James.... the only thing an engine produces is torque, therefore any mods to the engine, intake, exhaust will affect the torque... the only exception is the upping of the rev limiter, provided the cams and ignition timings are able to provide sufficent torque at uber high revs.

    hp is a function of engine rpm and torque.

    btw Im just chilling from revision. im doing well.
    ads if your going to use chloe as a disguise, then at least do it disgreetly, instead of being your usual geeky self lol
  39. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2004 Hull (England) Posts: 18709 1.6 vtr
    #39
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by saxiboi View Post
    ok , ok i just fitted a cold air intake...

    no noticle performance apart from a sexual growl...

    what next???
    a cold air feed will not see any performance alone

    read some of the sugestions as to what todo next

    easiest is to strip bits you dont need from car
  40. Infrequent Poster Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 148 Pink Saxo VTR
    #40
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by S34MER View Post
    ads if your going to use chloe as a disguise, then at least do it disgreetly, instaed of being your usual geeky self lol
    naaa, just taking a breather from the uni work. thought id have a quick view through the pages but got enragedddddddddddddddddddd by the horse power comment.

    anyway take it easy dudes I'm off.
  41. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2005 MaDchester Posts: 8432 Vts
    #41
    haha ur such a sax-p whore, laters dude.
  42. Frequent Poster Joined: Aug 2006 Solihull Posts: 798 RX8 231
    #42
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by saxosxi View Post
    new cams
    He said the 8valve so a VTR
  43. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2003 Kent Posts: 3994
    #43
    VTS/Gti gearbox would probably make the most noticable 0-60 difference other than a cam, and alot cheaper than buying it and the complementary parts.

    Around £200 fitted give or take.

    If it is a 3 plug ecu i wouldnt bother with a remap, sell it and get a single plug VTS.
  44. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2005 somewhere on this planet, doing something..... around northumberland or in the middle of the sea Posts: 8774 Mk2 VTS track mk1 turbo vts scooby engined 2CV
    #44
    depends on what you want it for and how much you want to spend?

    is it for the drag strip?

    you could strip the interior, leave one seat in?
    get a good clutch with lightend flywheel
    106 ralleye box
    4-1 manifold
    de-cat,
    full system
    enclosed filter
    head work
    uprated cam
    hig comp pistons
    standard ecu remaped and rev limit raised
    road legal slicks

    best mod of all is bigger brakes, this means you can go a bit further before slamming the anchors on

    the list is endless mate, i know what its like lol you want more power and say i will only look at spending 1k then you want more power and spend another 1k then more lol

    set a target for what you want at the end and work towards that, getting mods that will compliment each other