Engine conversion (1.1 to 1.6!)

  1. Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2007 Barnsley Posts: 147 yellow saxo 1.1 east coast, no mods
    #1
    I've been advised to save for a 1.6 for my saxo 1.1. I'm just curious to know what other parts will need changing. Everything at the mo is standard, as i just bought it second hand, after my unfortunate crash in my last car. if anyone could reply with what they think, or even experienced i would appreciate it so much!
  2. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2005 e-hollywood Posts: 17160 toyata hilux
    #2
    scroll down and you will see other threads? or use search aswell, been covered lots dude
  3. Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2007 Barnsley Posts: 147 yellow saxo 1.1 east coast, no mods
    #3
    thx! sorry bout that
  4. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2005 somewhere on this planet, doing something..... around northumberland or in the middle of the sea Posts: 8774 Mk2 VTS track mk1 turbo vts scooby engined 2CV
    #4
    engine, ecu, ingnition barrel, keys,clocks,wiring loom from in car,
    engine loom, fuse box
    gearbox
    suspension
    anti roll bars
    rear beam with discs
    exhaust
    radiator + hoses and fan
    brakes

    maybe a few more things
    hope you all get sorted mate
  5. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2006 Maidstone Posts: 8210 Golf TDI
    #5
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ashsax View Post
    I've been advised to save for a 1.6 for my saxo 1.1. I'm just curious to know what other parts will need changing. Everything at the mo is standard, as i just bought it second hand, after my unfortunate crash in my last car. if anyone could reply with what they think, or even experienced i would appreciate it so much!
    Is it really worth sticking a 1.6 engine in a shell designed for a 1.1. You will need loads of engine bay welding to make it stong enough to hold the engine and the money you will spend will likely cost as much as buying a 1.6 in the first place.

    Plus your insurance company will probably charge you more for a 'Modified 1.1 engine conversion to a 1.6' than just buying and insuring a 1.6 in the first place. I know is sounds great to have the conversion but you gotta think about it logically.

    Just my opinion
  6. Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2007 Barnsley Posts: 147 yellow saxo 1.1 east coast, no mods
    #6
    thanks for the replies, im gonna wait and buy a vtr/vts, whichever i can afford
  7. East Midlands Joined: Jun 2006 Derby Posts: 8305 Skoda Fabia VRS
    #7
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by boz View Post
    engine, ecu, ingnition barrel, keys,clocks,wiring loom from in car,
    engine loom, fuse box
    gearbox
    suspension
    anti roll bars
    rear beam with discs
    exhaust
    radiator + hoses and fan
    brakes

    maybe a few more things
    hope you all get sorted mate
    you don't NEED all of those things though boz

    but they are strongly advised
  8. Established Member Joined: May 2005 Northern Ireland Posts: 1020 EVO 5, 306XLD
    #8
    would a saxo shell not be made all the same off the production like tho??.. i didnt think there would be much difference between the shell of a 1.1 and a vtr/s so the engine bay wudnt need welded, its not like the corsa redtop conversions where the engine was never designed to be in the car..
  9. Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2007 Barnsley Posts: 147 yellow saxo 1.1 east coast, no mods
    #9
    all i knew was that the 1.6 engine fits into the normal saxo with no problems. but yeh i thought the shell would be ok
  10. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2005 e-hollywood Posts: 17160 toyata hilux
    #10
    engine bay welding????
  11. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2005 somewhere on this planet, doing something..... around northumberland or in the middle of the sea Posts: 8774 Mk2 VTS track mk1 turbo vts scooby engined 2CV
    #11
    the engine bay would be fine mate.
    you would need to make sure you got the top engine mounts with the 16v engine tho, other than that, it will fit fine
  12. Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2007 Barnsley Posts: 147 yellow saxo 1.1 east coast, no mods
    #12
    how much would u reckon i would be spending for the conversion, not including the price of the engine?
  13. L-plater Joined: May 2006 Posts: 73
    #13
    To much! end of the day it will cost you more to put a 1.6 init then to sell your 1.1 and buy a vtr or s, and if you buy a vt you have everything already there.
  14. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2005 somewhere on this planet, doing something..... around northumberland or in the middle of the sea Posts: 8774 Mk2 VTS track mk1 turbo vts scooby engined 2CV
    #14
    if you got all the electrics etc with the engine, you could get someone to fit it for yo like mr williamsvts off here, he does them for really good cheap price have a chat with him.

    i got a gti engine with excellent mileage, ecu, fuse/relay box, electircs, loom for engine and gearbox for £320 lol
    then i got a full car wiring harness and gti fuel tank for £10.99 you just have to love ebay
  15. Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2007 Barnsley Posts: 147 yellow saxo 1.1 east coast, no mods
    #15
    and that all worked out fine? i imagine u were lucky in finding that. thx for the less negative view, i think i will save up for longer, then do an engine conversion. make it something that looks normal, but performs really well! what mileage did the engine have?
  16. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2005 somewhere on this planet, doing something..... around northumberland or in the middle of the sea Posts: 8774 Mk2 VTS track mk1 turbo vts scooby engined 2CV
    #16
    my engine i got has 64K on it.
    im going to have it rebuilt, so i know its all ok
    bearings, water pump, headgasket etc

    unless you try and be different, go for a c2 vtr or vts engine. would be a canny bit of work but the engines may be cheaper than a vts or gti engine which is really popular at the moment.

    there are a few possibilities

    i really want a new mini engine with the turbo, it was designed by pug, im sure it will fit the saxo bay lol