which brakes?

1. quez L-plater Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 57

   #1 28th April 2007, 12:59

   I'm abit of a newbie when it comes to brakes so sorry for not having a clue what I'm on about! I've got an 03 vts and looking to uprate the front and rear discs since I only just passed an mot for having worn pads and I never thought the brakes were that good anyway, they will be going under the standard 15" vts rims.
   What are the best and biggest size brakes I could fit and prefferably new without spending stupid money? (£1k+). What would I need or would it all come as part of a kit? Cheers.
2. Toad Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 Reading Posts: 8980 French tin can

   #2 28th April 2007, 13:30

   Willwood and HiSpec do fairly good 4 pot calipers and are a cheap'ish option. If you want to go a little more budget than that, you could go for some second hand calipers from a 306GTI6 or a 206 GTI 180. The brake pads play a strong role in the performance of the overal brake set up, so don't skimp on those, and don't buy some random disks from Ebay either, they'll probably warp...
   
   Also, I wouldn't change the calipers on the rear, there's no real need. I think over 70% of your overall braking is provided by the front, so just stick with that. There's no reason why you couldn't put some better pads on the rears though...
3. VTS_16v_Boy Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2006 Dartford Kent Posts: 5251 Pug 1007 HDi Sport (daily) / Abarth 500

   #3 28th April 2007, 16:22

   Couple of options really
   
   1) upgrade the standard disc's and pads with uprated items - same size as OE items - EBC, Brembo, Mintex, Black Diamond there are plenty on the market. Grooved discs and fast road Pads will see a increase in braking power - too a point.
   
   2) Swap to a slightly bigger dis and caliper set up from another car - 206GTi Disc's and Calipers is a straight swap - So Im told - then do the same as option one but now with the slightly bigger front brake setup. Your see a Much better gain here as the discs are big and with a bigger pad to grip them on a smaller car then what they where designed for your bound to stop on a penny.
   
   3) Converting to a big brake setup with bigger disc and more pot calipers than standard - Expensive but very good - personally unless you was going on the track or was runing TurboCharger/SuperCharger/Trottle bodies etc I wouldnt bother going to this extent.
   
   Option 2) with uprated 206GTi aftermarket grooved discs and fast road pads with aftermarket uprated VTS rear items should be fine - like mentioned unless you planning big big power mods and alot of track action.
   
   For all items take a look at www.performancecentre.co.uk , www.motorsportworld.co.uk and www.cituning.ltd.uk hope some of that is of some help to you
4. chrismurra Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2007 cumbria uk Posts: 812 white saxo VTS

   #4 28th April 2007, 17:05

   i have a gti 6 set up sitting in the garage ready to fit but i havent had time yet so i dont know what there like but i have hurd good things about them mate. i paid 150 from ebay and that was for caliperas discs and pads so there pritty cheep for what they do
5. boz Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2005 somewhere on this planet, doing something..... around northumberland or in the middle of the sea Posts: 8774 Mk2 VTS track mk1 turbo vts scooby engined 2CV

   #5 29th April 2007, 03:54

   i would say that the 283mm setup that is found on the 306 gti-6 and 206 180 gti are more than enough for a saxo unless you are going to be tearing around a track with silly power and stupid speeds.
   
   i have these on my car and they fit behind the 15" vts alloys, but not the 14" vtr alloys.
   
   these with braided hoses, uprated pads, uprated brake fluid and a full brake bleed would be shit hot, i can nearly get my car to do endos and i can outbrake a load of bigger cars than mine
6. boz Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2005 somewhere on this planet, doing something..... around northumberland or in the middle of the sea Posts: 8774 Mk2 VTS track mk1 turbo vts scooby engined 2CV

   #6 29th April 2007, 03:56

   the 206 gti 180 setup fits direct onto the saxo struts and dosnt need any modifying to the caliper.
   
   the 306 gti-6 are slightly different design caliper, im not 100% if they need grinding a small amount to clear the strut??
7. Toad Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 Reading Posts: 8980 French tin can

   #7 29th April 2007, 08:18

   Yes mate. I've got the 306 GTI calipers on my car, and to get a perfect fit, you need to grind a diddy amount off the caliper.
8. boz Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2005 somewhere on this planet, doing something..... around northumberland or in the middle of the sea Posts: 8774 Mk2 VTS track mk1 turbo vts scooby engined 2CV

   #8 30th April 2007, 03:34

   206 gti 180 all the way, on first time no mods, pads are so easy to change too
   same size as the 306 gti-6 but newer lol