vts perfomance

1. landy Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 south elmsall Posts: 5147 cammed vtr

   #1 28th April 2007, 20:05

   when i get back from germany im after camming and puttin manifold on,
   
   some people have told me to go 708 cams and some people told me to stay away from them. What would the benifits be from havin 708 cams and how much am i expecting to pay with re-map and fitting. im wanting to have more power at the set off,
   
   Nxt question wot manifold would i be best off gettin?
   
   Wot bhp should i be kickin out
2. bullit Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2005 e-hollywood Posts: 17160 toyata hilux

   #2 28th April 2007, 20:08

   manifold- gmc 4-1 =approx 300
   
   708s are fine mate, whos told you otherwise?
   
   cams about 330, fitting could be 150 and map 450
   
   all prices give or take, there a catcam group buy on?
   
   youll see around 155-160 give or take
3. riggsy Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2006 West Sussex Posts: 6280 Mk2 Saxo Vts

   #3 28th April 2007, 20:17

   Wouldnt the gmc 4-1 be better for him as hes camming it, it will give it more power top end...
4. bullit Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2005 e-hollywood Posts: 17160 toyata hilux

   #4 28th April 2007, 20:18

   woops meant to say that, ill edit
5. boz Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2005 somewhere on this planet, doing something..... around northumberland or in the middle of the sea Posts: 8774 Mk2 VTS track mk1 turbo vts scooby engined 2CV

   #5 29th April 2007, 02:49

   as above really.
   fitting and a re-map will be the most expensive part mate.
   just make sure you have everything done that you wanted before the re-map.
   
   like filter, full system, 4-1 manifold,de-cat, cams. chipwizards are shit hot for re-mapping standard ecus. you will probs be around 150bhp give or take
   
   fit a ralleye box for a bit better bottom end
6. boz Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2005 somewhere on this planet, doing something..... around northumberland or in the middle of the sea Posts: 8774 Mk2 VTS track mk1 turbo vts scooby engined 2CV

   #6 29th April 2007, 02:50

   maybe fit a 4.5bar fuel pressure regulator from GMC and a free power unit too
7. landy Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 south elmsall Posts: 5147 cammed vtr

   #7 29th April 2007, 19:26

   want set off speeds
   
   top end speeds dont bother me that much anymore since i got banned
8. Toad Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 Reading Posts: 8980 French tin can

   #8 29th April 2007, 19:36

   Forget performance cams, and get a modified gearbox then.
9. saxoash Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Sep 2005 East Yorkshire United Kingdom (England) Posts: 6169 VTR

   #9 29th April 2007, 21:24

   708 cams, 4-2-1 manifold, 106 rally gear box and a set of slicks
10. craig180p Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper

    #10 29th April 2007, 21:36

    Agree 4-2-1 will be better lower down. The 4-1 has better peak power at higher revs. The 4-2-1 will see your power band shift down a bit
11. c8james Established Member Joined: Jan 2006 pikie central Posts: 1790 Ram raiders roller, cosser init

    #11 29th April 2007, 21:55

    If you work out the price of a remap vs the price of a stand alone ecu. Some thing like omex 600 with map 3000 software. You would still need some roller time to setup but gives you the option to change and play with things without the cost of a full remap every time you want to upgrade. Every one says about remapping but if you are tunning on a buget standalone is the way forward.
12. boz Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2005 somewhere on this planet, doing something..... around northumberland or in the middle of the sea Posts: 8774 Mk2 VTS track mk1 turbo vts scooby engined 2CV

    #12 30th April 2007, 01:16

    must admit, im defo looking at running standalone on the track car, like c8james said, buy the time you add up the cost, you could have a brand new standalone system that will be more beneficial in the future
    
    fuck all the other mods off
    get a sequential box, proshift and launch control with slicks
    gear changes in a split second and you would be away to fuck
13. user_257 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2003 Kent Posts: 3994

    #13 30th April 2007, 01:27

    Raceland and get a KMS.
    
    If it is a 3 plug then leave it.
14. user_257 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2003 Kent Posts: 3994

    #14 30th April 2007, 01:27

    Oh and around 160bhp.
15. boz Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2005 somewhere on this planet, doing something..... around northumberland or in the middle of the sea Posts: 8774 Mk2 VTS track mk1 turbo vts scooby engined 2CV

    #15 30th April 2007, 02:57

    im not sure how hard/easy KMS is to fit??
    
    i know people rated them well
16. c8james Established Member Joined: Jan 2006 pikie central Posts: 1790 Ram raiders roller, cosser init

    #16 30th April 2007, 08:21

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by boz must admit, im defo looking at running standalone on the track car, like c8james said, buy the time you add up the cost, you could have a brand new standalone system that will be more beneficial in the future fuck all the other mods off get a sequential box, proshift and launch control with slicks gear changes in a split second and you would be away to fuck

    We priced up a sequential box, all in with lsd it worked out at 6k. Wayyyyyy to much.