Raceland 4-2-1 cheap and shoddy or bargain buy?

1. godfridge Infrequent Poster Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 155 Mk1 Saxo vtr

   #1 3rd May 2007, 00:19

   is this manifold worth buying for vts?
2. MaRiO89 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7705 Saxo VTS

   #2 3rd May 2007, 00:20

   I got one on my westy and its good, built well etc.. has proven gains so unless you want to spend more, get a raceland!
3. jablitt Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2006 leciester United Kingdom (England) Posts: 720 Westie, Clio 172

   #3 3rd May 2007, 00:26

   i got one last week and fitted it the other day. a little bit of a fiddle to get on but top quality i recon! BARGIN BUY! try kamracing.com you get a discount because your a sax-p member. only £135 delivered mate. cant go wrong!!!
4. MaRiO89 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7705 Saxo VTS

   #4 3rd May 2007, 00:30

   I agree, they are awesome value for money!!
5. godfridge Infrequent Poster Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 155 Mk1 Saxo vtr

   #5 3rd May 2007, 00:36

   holy moly 135 deliverd thats amasing! shall be buying one of those then cheers!
6. Steovts Regular Poster Joined: Mar 2007 Ireland Posts: 282 Saxo Vts

   #6 3rd May 2007, 00:39

   Yep im getting one in the next few weeks, Iv heard good things so far.Will I have to modify anything to get it on?
7. MaRiO89 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7705 Saxo VTS

   #7 3rd May 2007, 00:41

   Shouldnt do, will need alot of patience though, i got an aftermarket exhaust company to fit mine..
8. jablitt Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2006 leciester United Kingdom (England) Posts: 720 Westie, Clio 172

   #8 3rd May 2007, 00:43

   umm, no shouldn't have to modify anything (i didn't anyway) the only thing is the lambda sensor but that is self explanatory when you get stuck in. just reposition is around the back of the engine and jobs a goodun! my advice is be patient, it is a bit fiddly but totally do able! it is rude not to for £135 delivered!!!
9. jablitt Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2006 leciester United Kingdom (England) Posts: 720 Westie, Clio 172

   #9 3rd May 2007, 00:45

   lol, james you let down! you should have tackled the job yourself (joke). how much did they charge to fit it?
10. MaRiO89 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7705 Saxo VTS

    #10 3rd May 2007, 00:46

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jablitt lol, james you let down! you should have tackled the job yourself (joke). how much did they charge to fit it?

    LOL, i wanted it done preoperly so it wouldnt blow or anything..
    
    Cant honestly remember because i had a sports cat fitted at the same time..
11. jablitt Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2006 leciester United Kingdom (England) Posts: 720 Westie, Clio 172

    #11 3rd May 2007, 00:49

    have you noticed power increases? i recon i have.
    
    loving your car by the way. you got the 1.4 as well?
12. Steovts Regular Poster Joined: Mar 2007 Ireland Posts: 282 Saxo Vts

    #12 3rd May 2007, 00:55

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by James_Bristol Shouldnt do, will need alot of patience though, i got an aftermarket exhaust company to fit mine..

    Yep I reckon il just get someone proper to fit mine.I can get it fitted cheap and I know itl be a good job and hell sort out the repositionong of the sensor for me
13. MaRiO89 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7705 Saxo VTS

    #13 3rd May 2007, 00:55

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jablitt have you noticed power increases? i recon i have. loving your car by the way. you got the 1.4 as well?

    Yeah i defo noticed an increase in power, less throttle needed at certain revs and pulls alot better through the revs and from low revs gets up and goes better!
    
    Cheers mate, yeah its a 1400.. Probs one of the only people who like the 1400 engine, everyone else seems to love the 16v.. i cant blame them though!
    
    If mine lets go whilst i have it will probs rebuild it to a higher spec and have a "special" 1400 rather than dropping a 16v lump in and having an "average" 1600 16v..
14. MaRiO89 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7705 Saxo VTS

    #14 3rd May 2007, 00:56

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Steovts Yep I reckon il just get someone proper to fit mine.I can get it fitted cheap and I know itl be a good job and hell sort out the repositionong of the sensor for me

    Yeah, if you have someone to do it for a small fee may aswell let them do it and know its done proper too!
15. boz Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2005 somewhere on this planet, doing something..... around northumberland or in the middle of the sea Posts: 8774 Mk2 VTS track mk1 turbo vts scooby engined 2CV

    #15 3rd May 2007, 04:43

    i noticed a slight difference with the raceland.
    will probs feel a better increase if you had the car re-mapped once you have all the mods done that you want
    
    carnt go wrong with the, tbh.
    not too hard to fit either
16. S34MER East Midlands Joined: Jun 2006 Derby Posts: 8305 Skoda Fabia VRS

    #16 3rd May 2007, 07:39

    bargain mate, especially when mine was £90 delivered to my door!
17. Sparco_Tom Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2007 Aylesbury, Bucks Posts: 12836 Yeaaahh Fiesta

    #17 3rd May 2007, 14:36

    how comes you got it for £90
18. Predator_R32p Super Moderator Joined: Mar 2003 Durham (England) Posts: 37932 1. AX 2. Mk2 Saxo VTR 3. MK4 R32 DBP

    #18 3rd May 2007, 15:08

    they are a bargain like i just dont like the idea of relocating the filter on mine so thats why am saving up for a GMC
19. Sparco_Tom Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2007 Aylesbury, Bucks Posts: 12836 Yeaaahh Fiesta

    #19 3rd May 2007, 15:12

    how do they get "relocated"?
20. Sparco_Tom Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2007 Aylesbury, Bucks Posts: 12836 Yeaaahh Fiesta

    #20 3rd May 2007, 15:13

    and to where?
21. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

    #21 3rd May 2007, 15:25

    I think you may be ok as you have a Mk1 - the Mk2 has a different oil filter with the cat in the o/e manifold
22. Sparco_Tom Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2007 Aylesbury, Bucks Posts: 12836 Yeaaahh Fiesta

    #22 3rd May 2007, 15:27

    that cool then as im getting mine soon and cant be bothered to relocate the oil filter
23. FinchysSaxo Established Member Joined: Dec 2006 Buckinghamshire Posts: 2087 Megane F1 R26 Liquid Yellow

    #23 3rd May 2007, 16:32

    i just recieved my 4-2-1 from kam-racing today. what can i say its soo nice cant wait to fit it. i have a mk2 1.4 furio and i luv it its my 1st car. just wondered as there are to sensors, where do i put the other 1 as i wont have a cat on my exhaust as its in the standard manifold? this has prob been answered before but i couldnt find anything and i have work shortly. Thanks heres a pic...
    
24. S34MER East Midlands Joined: Jun 2006 Derby Posts: 8305 Skoda Fabia VRS

    #24 3rd May 2007, 17:48

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by FinchysSaxo i just recieved my 4-2-1 from kam-racing today. what can i say its soo nice cant wait to fit it. i have a mk2 1.4 furio and i luv it its my 1st car. just wondered as there are to sensors, where do i put the other 1 as i wont have a cat on my exhaust as its in the standard manifold? this has prob been answered before but i couldnt find anything and i have work shortly.

    you need to buy a sleeve from somewhere like GMC for the second lamba sensor mate!
25. FinchysSaxo Established Member Joined: Dec 2006 Buckinghamshire Posts: 2087 Megane F1 R26 Liquid Yellow

    #25 5th May 2007, 17:16

    what does the sleeve do? will my oil filter on my mk2 furio need moving aswell? is there anyway i can get round the second sensor at all?
26. dan-iow Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 130

    #26 5th May 2007, 19:17

    would a raceland be a direct fit on to a pug 106 gti?? might get 1!!
27. vtr_stu L-plater Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 80

    #27 6th May 2007, 23:36

    only on the mk2 with the cat in the amnifold otherwise they are fine!
    
    i got one for £100 and i think its good for the money, only pain was trying to do the nut up underneath the no.1 outlet as it takes ages as you cant fit a socket on there!!
28. vtr_stu L-plater Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 80

    #28 6th May 2007, 23:36

    is the 106 a gti?
29. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

    #29 7th May 2007, 11:11

    there is only one issue with the racelands that constantly comes up and thats some people have issues where they cannot do the bolts up enough. All you need to do is pack it out with some extra washers and its all aok
30. RJ303 Established Member Joined: Oct 2006 Kingston Upon Hull area Posts: 1642 MG ZT CDTi Citroen C4 Picasso VTR+

    #30 7th May 2007, 21:28

    Am I right in thinking that you only have to re locate the oil filter if its a saxo with the cat in the manifold?
31. RJ303 Established Member Joined: Oct 2006 Kingston Upon Hull area Posts: 1642 MG ZT CDTi Citroen C4 Picasso VTR+

    #31 8th May 2007, 22:32

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by RJ303 Am I right in thinking that you only have to re locate the oil filter if its a saxo with the cat in the manifold?

    Bump
32. Richie2104VTR Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Oct 2006 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 2770 VTARRRR/S

    #32 8th May 2007, 23:57

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by RJ303 Am I right in thinking that you only have to re locate the oil filter if its a saxo with the cat in the manifold?

    Yeah, only need to re-locate on 98bhp models mate!!
33. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

    #33 9th May 2007, 00:11

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dan-iow would a raceland be a direct fit on to a pug 106 gti?? might get 1!!

    yes same engine. Just make sure you order the 16valve one.
34. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

    #34 9th May 2007, 00:16

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by RJ303 Am I right in thinking that you only have to re locate the oil filter if its a saxo with the cat in the manifold?

    the expensive way is to fit a remote oil filter.
    
    The cheap way is to fit a mk 1 oil filter and thread and plug the extra hole in the block. I'd go this route personally.
35. FinchysSaxo Established Member Joined: Dec 2006 Buckinghamshire Posts: 2087 Megane F1 R26 Liquid Yellow

    #35 9th May 2007, 10:58

    so would a oli filter have to be moved on a saxo furio 2001 1.4 ?? as my cat is in the manifold
36. RJ303 Established Member Joined: Oct 2006 Kingston Upon Hull area Posts: 1642 MG ZT CDTi Citroen C4 Picasso VTR+

    #36 9th May 2007, 14:18

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KamRacing the expensive way is to fit a remote oil filter. The cheap way is to fit a mk 1 oil filter and thread and plug the extra hole in the block. I'd go this route personally.

    But if your cat is under the car this problem wont arise right?