GTi Gearbox Problem

1. mzmz Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2004 Birmingham Posts: 131

   #1 4th May 2007, 18:33

   right people i have a problem with my 106 gti, as soon as i put it in 2nd it just pops straight back out of gear, anyone got any ideas why this is
   
   i think i'll need a new box, i know a vts one fits but does a vtr?
   
   also which other box will fit
   
   many thanks
2. gibs-rallye Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2006 in the valley Posts: 547

   #2 4th May 2007, 18:40

   any tu engine gearbox will fit. it could be syncros have fucked. they have like shoes and springs in them which can snap and deteriate over time which could be why it is kicking out of gear. is it ok in 1st though. as 1st and 2nd share syncros??
3. mzmz Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2004 Birmingham Posts: 131

   #3 4th May 2007, 18:45

   hi yes its fine in 1st
   
   what do u mean TU?
4. mzmz Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2004 Birmingham Posts: 131

   #4 4th May 2007, 18:46

   btw any advantages disadvantages of puttin a 1.4 box in?
5. fairoS106gti Regular Poster Joined: Sep 2006 MEASHAM Posts: 278 pug 106 gti

   #5 4th May 2007, 19:09

   mzmz i have the same problem heheh !! had it for a while now ive brought a new gearbox but my mate said it could be something else not synchros !!!
6. Toad Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 Reading Posts: 8980 French tin can

   #6 4th May 2007, 19:51

   If you put a 1.4 box in, it HAS to be the 1.4 XSI box IIRC! It's actually got a different final drive to the GTI box, so you lose a little top speed and will gain accelleration! So it's a great choice!
7. gibs-rallye Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2006 in the valley Posts: 547

   #7 4th May 2007, 23:29

   its the engine code like the gti/vts engine is a TU5J4 engine and the 1.6 rallye is the TU5J2 engine. basically majority of the 106/ saxo box's will fit.
8. boz Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2005 somewhere on this planet, doing something..... around northumberland or in the middle of the sea Posts: 8774 Mk2 VTS track mk1 turbo vts scooby engined 2CV

   #8 5th May 2007, 01:31

   any box will fit from the TU range mate.
   im sure the 106 ralleye box is one of the better ones for acceleration. but they are uber hard to find lol
   when you find a new box bud, i would fit a new realease bearing along with a new clutch (just to be on the safe side). you will need 2 new drive shaft oil seals and box fluid to, its not to hard to do yourself , just take a little bit of time and patience
   
   you could always have your box reconned, but that would cost quite a few quid, but you never know what condition a second hand box is like until its on the car.
   swings and roundabouts
9. gibs-rallye Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2006 in the valley Posts: 547

   #9 5th May 2007, 09:45

   the 1.3 rallye box is the one of best for acceleration. with the 1.6 rallye one a very close second.
10. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #10 5th May 2007, 09:46

    you've got to take into account more gear changes aswell.
11. Toad Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 Reading Posts: 8980 French tin can

    #11 6th May 2007, 21:03

    Yup, but more chance of catching your power band when coming out of a corner in a certain gear!
12. mzmz Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2004 Birmingham Posts: 131

    #12 7th May 2007, 11:58

    right so the rallye one is the one, but if i cant find one of them
    
    will a VTR one do?
13. SAM33R Established Member Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 2139 DIABLO RED 106 GTI E36 M3 EVO

    #13 8th May 2007, 02:09

    yeah vtr one will do but it wont accelerate so much as the VTS one
    
    a 1.1 box is very good for acceleration, you will notice a difference
14. mzmz Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2004 Birmingham Posts: 131

    #14 8th May 2007, 11:43

    right so the easy ones to get are the vts/gti or a 1.1 box
    
    
    which one should i be going for?
15. SAM33R Established Member Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 2139 DIABLO RED 106 GTI E36 M3 EVO

    #15 9th May 2007, 01:17

    1.1 boxes are very common and cheaper....
    
    looking around £90 for a 1.1
    
    and around £130-160 for a vts/gti box
16. SAM33R Established Member Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 2139 DIABLO RED 106 GTI E36 M3 EVO

    #16 9th May 2007, 01:17

    just to add, 1.1 will give you better acceleration but will lose top end a bit
17. mzmz Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2004 Birmingham Posts: 131

    #17 9th May 2007, 11:53

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SAXO-1100-GEAR...QQcmdZViewItem
    
    so that should be fine?
18. SAM33R Established Member Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 2139 DIABLO RED 106 GTI E36 M3 EVO

    #18 10th May 2007, 02:51

    yep that would be perfect as long as your satisfied with it, i have a spare 1.1 box which looks much better than the ebay one lol
    
    can post it out to you if ya interested
19. Karl Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26

    #19 10th May 2007, 09:36

    i have a 1.1 box in my VTS and tbh i dont notice a slight bit of difference
    paid 49 quid for mine and it'd only done 10k
20. mzmz Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2004 Birmingham Posts: 131

    #20 10th May 2007, 10:52

    sam33r u have PM