Maximum performance

  1. Newbie Joined: May 2007 Posts: 1
    #1
    Ive just bought a vts and im thinking about what to do to it first. my main aim is to get the car as fast as i can by spending the least. i have a budget of around £2000 what would you lot advice me to do performance wise????
  2. Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2007 Nottingham Posts: 533 Vectra C 1.9 CDTi SRi 150
    #2
    Get a performance 4-2-1 or 4-1 manifold, performance exhaust system, good quaility induction kit, get some performance cams, and you could save up a few more pennys and even turbo it! lower it by around 35mm and you be buzzing mate!
  3. Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2007 Shrewsbury Posts: 642 Saxo VTS
    #3
    manifold, exhaust, enclosed filter, cams & remap.
  4. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5
    #4
    as said, 4-1 manifold if i was you, search around there is thread with loads info about them, people get 4-2-1's for vts lower down power but if raggin the car when do you ever need lower down power?
    4-1 manifold, enclosed filter, full exhaust system, piper imo cams and remap! wouldn't turbo it, should be seeing 150bhp easy i think
    With the rest of the money, uprate the brakes, speak to williamsvts he can sort you out, lower 35mm for best handling personally i would go 40mm, lets face it if going to go fast need to stop dont we and need good handling!

    that will be well within the 2k budget but then need to declare to insurance

    rough price

    £280 manifold (if get raceland 4-2-1 tehn £130)
    £300 exhaust (depends on what you get rallynuts do magnex for £270 delivered)
    £180 (think they are) uprated front brakes from williamsvts
    £200 Suspension kit (depending on what get)
    £80 to lower on the kit
    £160 bmc enclosed, if your wanting to do that (would imo get decent panel filter £40 and get better supply of cold air to it)

    total of £1200

    cams not sure about price tbh would thought £600 for cams fitting and mapping, sure someone will know

    If not in a rush i would reccommend trying to source stuff second hand
  5. Frequent Poster Joined: Apr 2007 Coatbridge Posts: 673 EP3 Civic Type R
    #5
    Dont forget good tyres mate. You will see a big diff round corners
  6. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 Yorkshire Posts: 5415 Saxo
    #6
    Ported & gas flowed head with cams & a remap. £1000 - 1200
    Manifold & exhaust - £500 - 600
    Ported throttle body - £50
    BMC CDA / Viper - £150 - 200

    Thats for power gains....

    But you'll need it dropping 40mm & some good stopping power too.... so squeeze some lowering springs & GTI-6 brakes in there.
  7. Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2006 in the valley Posts: 547
    #7
    dont get the viper it holds the heat to much. go for enclosed jobbie
  8. Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)
    #8
    i'd also say that spending more on suspension would be a very good idea. For high quality dampers and springs budget for more like £400. Will mean you can keep that power down on the rough stuff
  9. Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2007 Herts Posts: 645 vts
    #9
    Dont waste £160 on a BMC induction kit. Spend £80 on a raceland enclosed induction kit. Heard nothing but good reviews on this and its half the price!
  10. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5
    #10
    i personally wouldnt bother spending money on induction kit just panel filter and decent cold air feed.........
    But if have the money would get BMC! or for cheaper option as said above
  11. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 West Sussex . Posts: 5690 Subaru Impreza Wrx
    #11
    Some good advise above!!There is somethink else you can do which is free and thats strip everthing out of it.

    Power to weight racio plays a huge part in how quick your car is going to be.
  12. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2007 Haywards Heath Posts: 8445
    #12
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Steve_VTR View Post
    as said, 4-1 manifold if i was you, search around there is thread with loads info about them, people get 4-2-1's for vts lower down power but if raggin the car when do you ever need lower down power?
    4-1 manifold, enclosed filter, full exhaust system, piper imo cams and remap! wouldn't turbo it, should be seeing 150bhp easy i think
    With the rest of the money, uprate the brakes, speak to williamsvts he can sort you out, lower 35mm for best handling personally i would go 40mm, lets face it if going to go fast need to stop dont we and need good handling!

    that will be well within the 2k budget but then need to declare to insurance

    rough price

    £280 manifold (if get raceland 4-2-1 tehn £130)
    £300 exhaust (depends on what you get rallynuts do magnex for £270 delivered)
    £180 (think they are) uprated front brakes from williamsvts
    £200 Suspension kit (depending on what get)
    £80 to lower on the kit
    £160 bmc enclosed, if your wanting to do that (would imo get decent panel filter £40 and get better supply of cold air to it)

    total of £1200

    cams not sure about price tbh would thought £600 for cams fitting and mapping, sure someone will know

    If not in a rush i would reccommend trying to source stuff second hand
    pretty much covered it mate, any advice for mine as i was thinking of trying to put in TB's and a turbo???
  13. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2005 e-hollywood Posts: 17160 toyata hilux
    #13
    what do you wanna know?
  14. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2007 Haywards Heath Posts: 8445
    #14
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by redbullet07 View Post
    pretty much covered it mate, any advice for mine as i was thinking of trying to put in TB's and a turbo???
    Fout id just quote it for you again mate as i cudnt b arsed
  15. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Aug 2004 West Mids Posts: 15392 '98 EK9 N1
    #15
    Got a question guys, is a Ported & Gas Flowed Head the same a a port
    and polish done on the head? Or are the both totally different things?

    If they are different then what is a ported and gas flowed head?
  16. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5
    #16
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by OLLYVTS View Post
    Some good advise above!!There is somethink else you can do which is free and thats strip everthing out of it.

    Power to weight racio plays a huge part in how quick your car is going to be.
    deffo strip it
  17. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2007 Haywards Heath Posts: 8445
    #17
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by OLLYVTS View Post
    Some good advise above!!There is somethink else you can do which is free and thats strip everthing out of it.

    Power to weight racio plays a huge part in how quick your car is going to be.
    Yep def strip it out and new tyres, mine hold the road perfectly and made a huge difference
  18. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2005 e-hollywood Posts: 17160 toyata hilux
    #18
    Quote:
    Fout id just quote it for you again mate as i cudnt b arsed
    but what exact;y do you wanna know about them? lol

    rushy gasflowed is used to test the head for better airflow, so if its ported polished, three angled seats, bigger valves whatever this tell you the gains youve made
  19. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2007 Haywards Heath Posts: 8445
    #19
    o lol, do you know if its possible to fit throttle bodies and a turbo to a VTS? ever been done before?
  20. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2005 e-hollywood Posts: 17160 toyata hilux
    #20
    you mean both at the same time or separate?
  21. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2007 Haywards Heath Posts: 8445
    #21
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by bullit View Post
    you mean both at the same time or separate?
    At the same time mate, if not then what would you go with? Any advice is great cheers
  22. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2006 Durham Posts: 16000 Clio Trophy 025/500
    #22
    it always makes me laugh when people say use the viper air filter its class lol

    It so isnt

    They did a review on it a while back in the old pgti mag

    They put it on 205 gti and it lost 1 bhp over standard on, so it sures how good that is
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  23. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26
    #23
    never been a fan of the Viper,
    especially when it claims to give the Saxo VTS +10bhp :/
    bit shifty.
  24. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2006 Durham Posts: 16000 Clio Trophy 025/500
    #24
    procomp if you cant find one good bit of kit and looks good

    But at present i really really rate the K&N Apollo cant beat it at the min
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  25. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2007 Haywards Heath Posts: 8445
    #25
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Soulless View Post
    never been a fan of the Viper,
    especially when it claims to give the Saxo VTS +10bhp :/
    bit shifty.
    Heard vipers are naff so decided to stay well away lol. ANy advice on fitting TB's and turbos at the same time?
  26. Administrator Joined: Dec 2002 Glasgow United Kingdom (Scotland) Posts: 26097 Chelski Traktor
    #26
    same as an normal boosting. Starting your own thread would be an idea though
  27. Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2007 Northampton Posts: 587
    #27
    ive heard of supercharged and turbochrged engines before, i think volkwagan where panning one for the golf but it never made it past prototype,
  28. Administrator Joined: Dec 2002 Glasgow United Kingdom (Scotland) Posts: 26097 Chelski Traktor
    #28
    it made it well past prototype you can go to your local dealer and buy a golf gt right now if you want. 1.4 turbo and super charged.
  29. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2007 Haywards Heath Posts: 8445
    #29
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Scott View Post
    it made it well past prototype you can go to your local dealer and buy a golf gt right now if you want. 1.4 turbo and super charged.
    Good point lol. So it is possible? Just never heard anything like that before like the idea, torque would be a joke tho!
  30. Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2007 Northampton Posts: 587
    #30
    oh right it did make it past proto, i didnt really see what happened in the end to be honest, thats great that they made it, but before that there was a performance rally car of some sort that did this i think, lancia maybe?
  31. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2005 e-hollywood Posts: 17160 toyata hilux
    #31
    Quote:
    At the same time mate, if not then what would you go with? Any advice is great cheers
    supercharger and tbs have been done. but you dont need both, also have you thought about how much this will cost lol
  32. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2007 Haywards Heath Posts: 8445
    #32
    Was a crazy idea that resulted from a drunken night out and too many people starting to brag, got me thinking tho. Too much lol but if its a first then i might look into it further, only an idea for the moment. Cheers for all the advice, still a ledgend bullit lol