130 bhp standard

1. accrombie Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 278

   #1 7th May 2007, 18:08

   has any 1 herd of a standard 130 bhp vts, if so whats the difference and how can u tell
2. Predator_R32p Super Moderator Joined: Mar 2003 Durham (England) Posts: 37932 1. AX 2. Mk2 Saxo VTR 3. MK4 R32 DBP

   #2 7th May 2007, 18:12

   no all the VTS models came with a 120 bhp engine
   
   well some models abroad are called a VTS but have a 1.4 16 valve engine
3. gibs-rallye Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2006 in the valley Posts: 547

   #3 7th May 2007, 18:12

   it doesnt excist! has been discussed many times before
4. babers Established Member Joined: Apr 2006 exeter United Kingdom (England) Posts: 1408 saxo vts

   #4 7th May 2007, 18:12

   yes we all now about the wonderful 130bhp vts witch is not real
5. Tammy_VTS Frequent Poster Joined: May 2006 Bognor Regis,West Sussex Posts: 707 Phase 2 Saxo VTS

   #5 7th May 2007, 18:17

   hahahaha!!! think there should be a new section on the forum :
   
   Saxo VTS 130bhp queries!!!
6. liam_b Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2006 paignton Posts: 3168 saxo

   #6 7th May 2007, 18:22

   its a myth as i said in the other thread you asked in
7. S34MER East Midlands Joined: Jun 2006 Derby Posts: 8305 Skoda Fabia VRS

   #7 7th May 2007, 18:26

   Oh my days, not this again!! hahaha
   
   LBD!! lol
   
   believe Bullit has one actually!
8. TheMadSaxo Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2006 Derby (Yorkshire Exile) Posts: 531 172 cup - Honda Civic Jordan.

   #8 7th May 2007, 18:42

   Citroen have never advertised a 130bhp Saxo so in theory that is the answer to the question.
   
   However, have a read of this.......
   
   "With the impending L4 emissions regs coming in, the head and management was redesigned. As a consequence of the management changes and emissions control, the idea was that the engine would need to be slightly reworked to keep 120bhp. But the crossover period meant that some reworked head engines were released with older, less emissions strict management. Hence the small power increase.
   
   It flows about 6% more than an earlier head; an increase which, applied to 120bhp, brings it to 127.2bhp.
   
   All a myth? incorrect, its FACT that the heads flow more, so in theory, with correct fuelling and mapping, will make more power as standard"
9. S34MER East Midlands Joined: Jun 2006 Derby Posts: 8305 Skoda Fabia VRS

   #9 7th May 2007, 18:48

   its all good and well you posting up a quote mate! but.....
   
   1. where did you get that quote from?
   2. don't believe everything you read mate!
10. Scottp Administrator Joined: Dec 2002 Glasgow United Kingdom (Scotland) Posts: 26097 Chelski Traktor

    #10 7th May 2007, 18:50

    there was a difference in the head castings, though theres no proof or official line from citroen about any increase in power thats fact.
11. accrombie Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 278

    #11 7th May 2007, 18:54

    in my last post about the piggy back ecu . the guy who answered the post says his car is 130 bhp standard
12. accrombie Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 278

    #12 7th May 2007, 18:54

    in my last post about the piggy back ecu . the guy who answered the post says his car is 130 bhp standard
13. S34MER East Midlands Joined: Jun 2006 Derby Posts: 8305 Skoda Fabia VRS

    #13 7th May 2007, 18:57

    we got it the first time mate
    
    

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by S34MER believe Bullit has one actually!

    already told you that mate!! but his is a one off limited edition 130bhp VTS
14. TheMadSaxo Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2006 Derby (Yorkshire Exile) Posts: 531 172 cup - Honda Civic Jordan.

    #14 7th May 2007, 19:22

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by S34MER its all good and well you posting up a quote mate! but..... 1. where did you get that quote from? 2. don't believe everything you read mate!

    Was posted on this forum by a guy called Gabbastard the last time we discussed it and yes, you're right, it could be complete bollox for all I know!!
    
    The only certain thing is that Citroen never sold/marketed what you would call a 130bhp standard Vts.
15. Toad Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 Reading Posts: 8980 French tin can

    #15 7th May 2007, 19:29

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by TheMadSaxo Citroen have never advertised a 130bhp Saxo so in theory that is the answer to the question. However, have a read of this....... "With the impending L4 emissions regs coming in, the head and management was redesigned. As a consequence of the management changes and emissions control, the idea was that the engine would need to be slightly reworked to keep 120bhp. But the crossover period meant that some reworked head engines were released with older, less emissions strict management. Hence the small power increase. It flows about 6% more than an earlier head; an increase which, applied to 120bhp, brings it to 127.2bhp. All a myth? incorrect, its FACT that the heads flow more, so in theory, with correct fuelling and mapping, will make more power as standard"

    
    
    I don't know about all that... But here's something that IS a fact. Wayne Schofield from Chipwizards has been mapping 106/VTS's for a fair few years. What he's noticed is that the older lumps (the ones without the EGR valve) actually make on average 5bhp more from the same camshaft upgrade and re-map compared to the newer models. This is fact, and has always been the case. The only difference they know of is the EGR valve, but it seems odd that this would be the root of the cause.
16. belly_VTS Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2006 Co Durham(north east) Posts: 626 cammed vts, (rest in pieces) corsa vxr - 340bhp

    #16 7th May 2007, 20:15

    the older ones also have a single plug ecu, people reckon that has something to do with older vts slightly faster aswell
17. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #17 7th May 2007, 20:21

    wall and head.........
18. MaRiO89 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7705 Saxo VTS

    #18 7th May 2007, 20:24

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Itsafastworld85 wall and head.........

    Nice straight forward answer from ryan as normal!..
19. DevilDamo Saxperience Addict Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 13761

    #19 7th May 2007, 21:59

    You're kidding? I thought mine was one of the 130bhp models
    
    
20. Predator_R32p Super Moderator Joined: Mar 2003 Durham (England) Posts: 37932 1. AX 2. Mk2 Saxo VTR 3. MK4 R32 DBP

    #20 7th May 2007, 22:07

    your not all that special damo bet your gutted eh
21. bullit Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2005 e-hollywood Posts: 17160 toyata hilux

    #21 7th May 2007, 22:25

    Quote:

    You're kidding? I thought mine was one of the 130bhp models

    only mine mate
22. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #22 7th May 2007, 23:41

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by James_Bristol Nice straight forward answer from ryan as normal!..

    well id hate to dissapoint my fans
23. MaRiO89 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7705 Saxo VTS

    #23 7th May 2007, 23:44

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Itsafastworld85 well id hate to dissapoint my fans

    LOL.