Gearbox options............?

1. SaxOmniaC Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2006 Northants Posts: 2825 none at present

   #1 21st May 2007, 19:13

   i need to replace my gearbox as its not well as to say. i know i can get another VTR one but i know also that people put VTS, 1.1 etc etc in instead. ive read bout 1.1 being shorter ranged and 1,5d being hardwearing and VTS being the best but
   
   what are the pro's and cons for the different boxes like 1.1, 1.4, 1.5d, vtr and vts to go in my vtr?
   
   im going to start running 1/4 miles soon and need a quick box
   
   
2. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

   #2 21st May 2007, 19:19

   if you want to drive fast DO NOT GET A 1.1.
   
   it has the final drive of a good box yes, but a weak diff and a non sports gearset, which is no good! the rumours theyre good should stop!
   
   hunt for an s1 rallye/1.4xsi for sprints, you will loose top end though
3. SaxOmniaC Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2006 Northants Posts: 2825 none at present

   #3 21st May 2007, 19:26

   ok cool, so im looking at the pug boxes then. are they better than VTS for sprints?
4. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

   #4 21st May 2007, 19:30

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by SaxOmniaC ok cool, so im looking at the pug boxes then. are they better than VTS for sprints?

   all pug cit, sport boxes (vts/gti etc..) use the same gearset.
   
   its just the final drive that differs. this effects the way the gearbox drives and the in gear acceleration.
   
   the vts/gti box is good.... just not imo as good as the rallye or xsi boxes
5. rushy_23 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Aug 2004 West Mids Posts: 15392 '98 EK9 N1

   #5 21st May 2007, 19:32

   Not many people mention the S2 Rallye box. What are they like?
6. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

   #6 21st May 2007, 19:35

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by rushy_23 Not many people mention the S2 Rallye box. What are they like?

   if you go on ssc. in engines faq.. it has the thread what gearbox for me irc..
   
   look in there for exact specs.
7. SaxOmniaC Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2006 Northants Posts: 2825 none at present

   #7 21st May 2007, 19:35

   coolio, the hunt begins, does it not matter bout phase 1 or 2 or black or silver top?
8. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

   #8 21st May 2007, 19:37

   if you cant get a whole box, pm me if you want a 1.4xsi final drive.
9. SaxOmniaC Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2006 Northants Posts: 2825 none at present

   #9 21st May 2007, 19:44

   im lost mate lol, no nothing technical bout gearboxes lol, would prefer to get a whole box as i will be fitting myself.
10. SaxOmniaC Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2006 Northants Posts: 2825 none at present

    #10 21st May 2007, 19:45

    does it have to be xsi cos i found an xs one?
11. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #11 21st May 2007, 19:46

    lol dont worry. some people cant find xsi boxes.
    
    just vts ones, if theyre getting rebuilt they sometimes want the final drive to make it an xsi box
12. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #12 21st May 2007, 19:47

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SaxOmniaC does it have to be xsi cos i found an xs one?

    xs is different irc.
    
    xsi i think is the same as the ax Gti not 100% sure though
13. SaxOmniaC Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2006 Northants Posts: 2825 none at present

    #13 21st May 2007, 19:52

    so would an ax gti box fit?
    
    soz for all the Q's but i want to get it right lol
14. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #14 21st May 2007, 19:56

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SaxOmniaC so would an ax gti box fit? soz for all the Q's but i want to get it right lol

    all MA boxes fit.
    
    i cant confirm if the axgti box is the same as a 106xsi though.
15. SaxOmniaC Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2006 Northants Posts: 2825 none at present

    #15 21st May 2007, 20:01

    how would a saxo 1.4 box do in a vtr?
    
    also do 1.1 boxes really give quicker acceleration?
16. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #16 21st May 2007, 20:15

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SaxOmniaC how would a saxo 1.4 box do in a vtr? also do 1.1 boxes really give quicker acceleration?

    as i said in first post stay well away from 1.1 boxes imo!!
    
    1.4box will give marginal increase.
17. Saxo-Slag Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2006 Stockport, Manchester Posts: 5911 Vtr @ 123bhp R.I.P VTS

    #17 21st May 2007, 22:38

    I am in the same boat atm mate. Keep us posted mate
18. mardon Frequent Poster Joined: May 2007 Wirral Posts: 606 mk5 Ibiza Cupra Bocanegra

    #18 21st May 2007, 23:08

    Whats the final drive on a 1.1 one. Bet you could get a cheap 1.1 box get the final drive and chuck it in your box when its getting rebuilt..
19. user_12092 Saxperience Addict Joined: Oct 2006 Inside Your Girlfriend Posts: 12190 Fabia vRS

    #19 21st May 2007, 23:14

    I have an ax gt box in my vts closer ratios in 1st,2nd and third then about the same 4th and 5th think its the same as a rallye
20. SaxOmniaC Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2006 Northants Posts: 2825 none at present

    #20 21st May 2007, 23:27

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Peugeot-205-XS...QQcmdZViewItem
    
    is this any good?
21. user_12092 Saxperience Addict Joined: Oct 2006 Inside Your Girlfriend Posts: 12190 Fabia vRS

    #21 21st May 2007, 23:29

    Snap it up if its a gt box its very quick in 1,2,3.
22. SaxOmniaC Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2006 Northants Posts: 2825 none at present

    #22 23rd May 2007, 00:55

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JasonVTS Snap it up if its a gt box its very quick in 1,2,3.

    
    got it mate, apparently its an AX GT 500 box!??!?!!?