Manifold Decisions

22nd May 2007, 00:18

im starting to decide on a manifold as i hope to be ordering quite soon

and its a pick between the above

i know GMC are a 4-1 but i still consider it an option

Decisions

22nd May 2007, 00:27

Raceland buddy, very cheap yet good gains and good build and welds etc are good.. Dont think the others are worth the extra money tbh!

22nd May 2007, 00:30

i know but dont really want to be relocating the filter tbh and im wanting something different, someone was saying supersprint are quite good

22nd May 2007, 01:07

gmc do a 4-2-1 for the vtr as far as im aware.. some mild and some stainless

22nd May 2007, 01:17

You want the 4-1 as its a vtr you want more power top end!

Id say gmc...

22nd May 2007, 01:30

gmc only do 4-1 mate, says on there site they make all there manifolds 4-1

i think its down to GMC and a supersprint at the moment, just wanting to know if anyone had a janspeed

22nd May 2007, 01:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Predator_VTR

gmc only do 4-1 mate, says on there site they make all there manifolds 4-1

i think its down to GMC and a supersprint at the moment, just wanting to know if anyone had a janspeed

you do know who old that site is dont you?

just ring them and ask incase. i loose track with john 2bh. as he says he is producing new stuff then it never happens

22nd May 2007, 01:31

I said get a gmc!? As its 4-1

22nd May 2007, 01:53

well im just getting some decisions for the moment before i ring, i did try and get a group buy, he said see how many people you can get then get back to me and ill see what i can do but there was only 2 of use wanted one at that time

22nd May 2007, 03:17

gmc as its a decent fit unlike the others and the SS will be a good quality fanimold... think u need some sort of sleeve for a sensor too..

22nd May 2007, 07:14

janspeed ones are made of mild steel and dont seem to be a great fit either. becasue its mild steel it can rust and if your centre pipe is full stainless steel then this car wear away the manifold as they are different types of steel.

as for re-locating the oil filter, i have trid and gave up and i only know one person on here that has had a go and actually done it, banger007 i think.

i would go GMC.

22nd May 2007, 07:19

this is the only Supersprint i could find and it sounds as if its for a mk1

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Details : Fits to the OEM catalytic convertor

http://www.motorsportworld.co.uk/fra...nt-exhaust.htm

22nd May 2007, 07:21

dont no what any of em are like am sure people that have the particalr one are gunna say that one, id go for raceland as thats the only one that keeps poping up

22nd May 2007, 07:25

LINKAGE

22nd May 2007, 07:33

when Raceland is mentioned:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Predator_VTR

i know but dont really want to be relocating the filter tbh and im wanting something different, someone was saying supersprint are quite good

Quote:

Originally Posted by Predator_VTR

gmc only do 4-1 mate, says on there site they make all there manifolds 4-1

i think its down to GMC and a supersprint at the moment, just wanting to know if anyone had a janspeed

looks like you've already pretty much made your mind up!

I bought a Raceland, and i couldn't be happier with it, frees up the revs no end! and defiately more responsive! Raceland ftw!

22nd May 2007, 07:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark51

janspeed ones are made of mild steel and dont seem to be a great fit either. becasue its mild steel it can rust and if your centre pipe is full stainless steel then this car wear away the manifold as they are different types of steel.

as for re-locating the oil filter, i have trid and gave up and i only know one person on here that has had a go and actually done it, banger007 i think.

i would go GMC.

i thought you could just replace it with a mk1 oil filter as their smaller? could be wrong though! infact porbably are lol

22nd May 2007, 09:24

Out of the 4 stated i would go for the gmc 4-1.

22nd May 2007, 09:37

Race land because its a cheap version of the Supersprint, only £119 from KamRacing

GMC because its a well designed 4-1 by BTB exhausts, who are FG

Supersprint is too expencive

Jansport - I had a Jansport system on my 306 Rallye. It was wank

22nd May 2007, 09:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by S34MER

i thought you could just replace it with a mk1 oil filter as their smaller? could be wrong though! infact porbably are lol

i wish it was that simple,
you have to take the oil filter off and the filter housing off
then use a mk1 insert and then screw a mk1 filter on to that
then relocate the oil pressure switch with a new sensor on the end of it
then (the hardest part) you have to block up the oil return valve on the engine block. sounds easy but its not.
i spend ages trying to find something and/or someone that i could block the hole up with. i was going to weld it but didnt want to fook it up. then i was going to tap a thread into the block but didnt want to risk cracking the block. sealant wouldnt of held it in place for long and anything else i found that fit meant i couldnt fit the oil filter on properly and "vice versa"

22nd May 2007, 10:00

is it only the raceland that you have to relocate the oil filter?

22nd May 2007, 10:13

^^ if you have a mk2 engine you have to rerlocate the oil filter with any manifold that is made for the mk1 enigne

22nd May 2007, 12:36

i have a mk2 vtr but its an early one with the cat below the car. Just ordered a raceland 4-2-1. am i gonna need to relocate the oil filter? and are there any how2 guides for the filter?
Chris

22nd May 2007, 12:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark51

^^ if you have a mk2 engine you have to rerlocate the oil filter with any manifold that is made for the mk1 enigne

thats why if I ever get a new manifold ill be getting the GMC 4-1 one, but its over 200quid

22nd May 2007, 18:40

hmmm think its going to be GMC, there well made and are good fitment, i dont want the hassle of relocating things

22nd May 2007, 18:42

janspeed with sports cat imo
richie just got one sounds awesome, plus wont have the faf on with worrying at mot time, it was built to order but have to say bit shitty build quality and the down pipe is about 0.5cm to high and is currently hitting off the bottom of the car, but i had that problem with my gmc!
But my gmc is really good build quality imo!
not much price difference between the two either......

22nd May 2007, 18:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark51

janspeed ones are made of mild steel and dont seem to be a great fit either. becasue its mild steel it can rust and if your centre pipe is full stainless steel then this car wear away the manifold as they are different types of steel.

as for re-locating the oil filter, i have trid and gave up and i only know one person on here that has had a go and actually done it, banger007 i think.

i would go GMC.

was not banger lol as richie bought his manifold after 2 days of banger buying it tehn richie ended up getting janspeed

22nd May 2007, 18:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris_Ward_vtr

i have a mk2 vtr but its an early one with the cat below the car. Just ordered a raceland 4-2-1. am i gonna need to relocate the oil filter? and are there any how2 guides for the filter?
Chris

no, as long as your engine is an mk1 (90bhp) then you will be ok

its not hard to fit a manifold mate

take your old one off (all nuts are 10mm)
take the lambda sensor out
put the new one in with a new gasket
put the lambda sensor back in
enjoy the extra bhp and louder exhaust

22nd May 2007, 19:08

there can be complications in fitting manifolds, can be a bitch and fuck around getting the centre silencer to line up, with ones i have done its fiddly fitting some bolts onto the studs, but always get there in the end

Also teh centre silencer has hit off the car, managed to sort mine but richie having to get the down pipe bent on his because of build quality on the manifold down pipe!

22nd May 2007, 19:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark51

no, as long as your engine is an mk1 (90bhp) then you will be ok

its not hard to fit a manifold mate

take your old one off (all nuts are 10mm)
take the lambda sensor out
put the new one in with a new gasket
put the lambda sensor back in
enjoy the extra bhp and louder exhaust

deffo get a new gasket

also mayswel get new studs and nuts,
note you put the studs in the engine first then manifold on and bolts with washers on!

There is a sticky on how to fit one

22nd May 2007, 19:12

^^ balls missed the bit about the guide off. thats why it was so brief, lol

22nd May 2007, 19:12

gmc all the way

i have 1 thats all there is to say

22nd May 2007, 19:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by hesslevtr

gmc all the way

i have 1 thats all there is to say

is yours branded as piper? mine is!

Excellent build quality have to say though

22nd May 2007, 19:14

miltek

22nd May 2007, 19:14

banger did have it fitted and everything, but took it off again lol

id go wit a gmc just for easyness

22nd May 2007, 19:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve_VTR

is yours branded as piper? mine is!

Excellent build quality have to say though

yeah and yeah

22nd May 2007, 23:53

final decision made on a GMC then, thanks people

23rd May 2007, 00:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark51

no, as long as your engine is an mk1 (90bhp) then you will be ok

its not hard to fit a manifold mate

take your old one off (all nuts are 10mm)
take the lambda sensor out
put the new one in with a new gasket
put the lambda sensor back in
enjoy the extra bhp and louder exhaust

Cheers mate, just what i wanted to hear lol. dont want to be faffing around moving the oil flter.