Compressing Standard Springs!!

1. Ma5on Established Member Joined: Dec 2005 United Kingdom (England) Posts: 1417 Saxo Derrrr LMAO

   #1 28th May 2007, 20:35

   does any one no if u can compress standard springs?? if so where would i go to get it done?
   
   dont bother saying stuff like why not buy sfter market ones ect just want the question answered pretty please!!
   
   
   thanks
2. steve16v Regular Poster Joined: Apr 2007 herts Posts: 370 saxo vts

   #2 28th May 2007, 20:44

   do you mean lowering the standard spring? or to compress it to take it off?
3. bullit Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2005 e-hollywood Posts: 17160 toyata hilux

   #3 28th May 2007, 20:45

   no dont
4. Ma5on Established Member Joined: Dec 2005 United Kingdom (England) Posts: 1417 Saxo Derrrr LMAO

   #4 28th May 2007, 20:45

   making the standard spring like compress them to 40mm to lower ma car!!
5. Ma5on Established Member Joined: Dec 2005 United Kingdom (England) Posts: 1417 Saxo Derrrr LMAO

   #5 28th May 2007, 20:46

   is it possible and where would i go about to get it done?
6. steve16v Regular Poster Joined: Apr 2007 herts Posts: 370 saxo vts

   #6 28th May 2007, 20:47

   not that i no off you cant do it they do kits like these ones
   http://www.graystonengineering.com/suspensionpage.htm
   and they are like the only thing you can get to compress a std spring from what i know off?
   and i know you said dont say it but you rae best of with another uprated spring
   hope this helps?
7. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

   #7 28th May 2007, 20:50

   it probably can be done, should you do it?? NO it would be forcing the spring to run how its not meant to, and will be as good as cutting them
8. BLUE_DEVIL Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2005 Portsmouth United Kingdom (England) Posts: 631 54 reg Honda Civic Sport. 2.0L Sierra sapphire.

   #8 28th May 2007, 20:50

   You would have to remove the springs. Clamp them in a vice to desired height. Heat them up with a blowtorch till while hot. Leave to cool. Compare coil heights. Refit.
9. Ma5on Established Member Joined: Dec 2005 United Kingdom (England) Posts: 1417 Saxo Derrrr LMAO

   #9 28th May 2007, 20:51

   orite i got ya like a lil clamp that u clamp on the spring!
   
   are they safe to u no???
   
   wots the worst that can happen if they some how fall offf????
   
   uve been a big help.. hope u can help me more!!
10. chrisni1986 Established Member Joined: May 2005 Northern Ireland Posts: 1020 EVO 5, 306XLD

    #10 28th May 2007, 20:52

    the springs could be heated and then compressed but id say due to the safety issues with doing it not many places would be willing to do it for you.. it would be hard to get an even height on all the springs and the heating and cooling/compressing would im sure weaken them to the point of them prob splitting or coils breaking off.... im sure you could heat them and then tighten a set of springs clamps on them to compress them and then let them cool but id seriously advise against it.... as even doing this they could pop out of the spring clamps under load which is like a bomb going off.... save the hassle and risk matey and get some proper lowering springs..
11. steve16v Regular Poster Joined: Apr 2007 herts Posts: 370 saxo vts

    #11 28th May 2007, 20:55

    to be honest no i would not imagine the life of the to be very long before it rotted through they have been about a long time but the safer way would be change the spring
    if they are clamped they are not working how they have been designed ?
12. steve16v Regular Poster Joined: Apr 2007 herts Posts: 370 saxo vts

    #12 28th May 2007, 20:57

    if it came off while driving it would prob happen under pressure like on a corner/bend or something this would give you all sorts of handling problems through that bend, would not like to say what could happen then
13. bullit Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2005 e-hollywood Posts: 17160 toyata hilux

    #13 28th May 2007, 21:05

    for the hassle of doing it you may aswell buy some. plus the fact its a cowboy job
14. steve16v Regular Poster Joined: Apr 2007 herts Posts: 370 saxo vts

    #14 28th May 2007, 21:08

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bullit for the hassle of doing it you may aswell buy some. plus the fact its a cowboy job

    thats it for the time it would take to get under there and clamp them on etc its easier to drop the lot out and put the new spring on and safer!!
15. Barry123 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS

    #15 28th May 2007, 21:12

    Compressing them beyond their elastic limit will result in plastic deformation and induce work hardening - which will weaken the material and leave it brittle. Thankfully a complete compression of the spring to its smallest displacement is unlikely to plastically deform it.
    
    You could heat them, but then the heat treatment itself will either harden the spring - again leaving it brittle or soften it leaving it completely unusable.
16. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

    #16 28th May 2007, 22:05

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ma5on orite i got ya like a lil clamp that u clamp on the spring! are they safe to u no??? wots the worst that can happen if they some how fall offf???? uve been a big help.. hope u can help me more!!

    
    These are all bad things to be considering.
    
    I'm sure I've got a set of Ventura springs knocking around in the storeroom. Off the top of my head they'll lower the car approx 40mm and I'll sell them to you for a low rate of £60 delivered. messing around with heating / chopping springs is going to be a disaster
17. Jackman Saxperience Addict Joined: Sep 2006 Bridgend, South Wales Posts: 11234 iTB 205 Rallye, 205 STDT.

    #17 28th May 2007, 22:08

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KamRacing These are all bad things to be considering. I'm sure I've got a set of Ventura springs knocking around in the storeroom. Off the top of my head they'll lower the car approx 40mm and I'll sell them to you for a low rate of £60 delivered. messing around with heating / chopping springs is going to be a disaster

    Good deal! id take it instead of risking playing with the standards.
18. MaRiO89 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7705 Saxo VTS

    #18 28th May 2007, 22:12

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KamRacing These are all bad things to be considering. I'm sure I've got a set of Ventura springs knocking around in the storeroom. Off the top of my head they'll lower the car approx 40mm and I'll sell them to you for a low rate of £60 delivered. messing around with heating / chopping springs is going to be a disaster

    Are ventura springs good kam?? They came with my bilsteins but i have never heard of them?
19. Ben_L Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2005 Billericay, Essex (England) Posts: 6774 1.1.1i, 2.Mk2 VTR 3.Astra SRI 150

    #19 28th May 2007, 23:06

    or if you are on a tight budget £50 will get you some gmax springs. Its not worth even trying what you want ur querying. Also, as said you wont have the car sitting as right as you would if you just put some cheap and cheerful springs on.
20. Ma5on Established Member Joined: Dec 2005 United Kingdom (England) Posts: 1417 Saxo Derrrr LMAO

    #20 28th May 2007, 23:18

    no thank for the help every1 was jsut an idea me and few friend had but seems like to much effort and jsut thought sod it wasnt about the money just finking of defferent ideas!! cherrrrrz!!!!
21. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #21 28th May 2007, 23:26

    dont ever think of different ideas when it comes to suspension and safety, companies spend millions developing parts that work and are strong, playing about can be potentially dangerous
22. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

    #22 28th May 2007, 23:29

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by James_Bristol Are ventura springs good kam?? They came with my bilsteins but i have never heard of them?

    Good enough for Bilstein to ship them with their Sprintline kit. The combination works really well.
23. MaRiO89 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7705 Saxo VTS

    #23 28th May 2007, 23:30

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KamRacing Good enough for Bilstein to ship them with their Sprintline kit. The combination works really well.

    
    Good good!
24. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #24 29th May 2007, 09:50

    i am not even going to reply to this question................................
25. Ma5on Established Member Joined: Dec 2005 United Kingdom (England) Posts: 1417 Saxo Derrrr LMAO

    #25 29th May 2007, 12:50

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by williamsvts i am not even going to reply to this question................................

    you dont need to its already been answered so stop spamming!!
26. l1ukeRS Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Oct 2005 Telford United Kingdom (England) Posts: 3962 Focus RS Saxo Vtr

    #26 29th May 2007, 13:02

    mason buy sum lowering springs ill fit em for ya
27. Saxo_Steve Frequent Poster Joined: Apr 2006 Prestwick Posts: 952 Saxo VTR mk2

    #27 29th May 2007, 22:58

    My brother did this to an old car to slam the bitch, but I'm pretty sure I remember him telling me that if springs have been heat up or cut then it's an mot failure (he used to be an mot tester). He only used them for a short while and then bought proper lowering springs.
28. GRAHAM2000VTR Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 peterborough Posts: 2861 2003 black vtr current escort van lol 2006 ford

    #28 30th May 2007, 18:26

    if u can see they been heated or mishaped mot failure aswell mate front lowering springs not that much
29. MaRiO89 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7705 Saxo VTS

    #29 30th May 2007, 18:28

    Just get some lowering springs ffs!! cost fuk all! lol
30. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #30 30th May 2007, 18:32

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31. bullit Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2005 e-hollywood Posts: 17160 toyata hilux

    #31 30th May 2007, 19:16

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32. MaRiO89 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7705 Saxo VTS

    #32 30th May 2007, 19:30

    Quote:

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33. bullit Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2005 e-hollywood Posts: 17160 toyata hilux

    #33 30th May 2007, 19:31

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34. MaRiO89 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7705 Saxo VTS

    #34 30th May 2007, 19:34

    Quote:

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35. bullit Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2005 e-hollywood Posts: 17160 toyata hilux

    #35 30th May 2007, 19:41

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36. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #36 30th May 2007, 19:42

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37. MaRiO89 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7705 Saxo VTS

    #37 30th May 2007, 19:51

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bullit sniff sniff

    
    
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38. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #38 30th May 2007, 19:58

    
39. Ma5on Established Member Joined: Dec 2005 United Kingdom (England) Posts: 1417 Saxo Derrrr LMAO

    #39 30th May 2007, 20:47

    fuking hell every1 the question has been answered and this will not be happening i didnt no wot would happen and im 100% sure that with is totally unsafe now so end of thread stop posting!!!
40. MaRiO89 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7705 Saxo VTS

    #40 30th May 2007, 20:50

    LOL, calm down!!
    
    Its common sense that you dont shorten std springs.. So why did you make the thread?
    
    
41. bullit Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2005 e-hollywood Posts: 17160 toyata hilux

    #41 30th May 2007, 21:09

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42. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #42 30th May 2007, 21:38

    
43. MaRiO89 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7705 Saxo VTS

    #43 30th May 2007, 21:39

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44. Ma5on Established Member Joined: Dec 2005 United Kingdom (England) Posts: 1417 Saxo Derrrr LMAO

    #44 30th May 2007, 22:07

    well i didnt no that thats y i made the thread... but now i no so end of!!