Has any1 got...?

30th May 2007, 23:25

Has any1 got or know how good these are? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Ramair-Saxo-1-...QQcmdZViewItem

am thinking about getting one.

30th May 2007, 23:28

it looks like a heap of shit tbh

30th May 2007, 23:31

£75 for a cone filter and pipe!

you my friend need to have one of these

30th May 2007, 23:32

and that means dont waste your money its poo!

30th May 2007, 23:33

it that the one you ordered for us ry

30th May 2007, 23:35

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Originally Posted by bullit

it that the one you ordered for us ry

yep taking dongs to the next level

30th May 2007, 23:37

Guess their shit then lol, well am after an induction kit for my 02 vtr but carnt fork out 150 - 200 for a decent 1, any1 got any suggestions?

30th May 2007, 23:38

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Originally Posted by broughton_87

Guess their shit then lol, well am after an induction kit for my 02 vtr but carnt fork out 150 - 200 for a decent 1, any1 got any suggestions?

save up a bit longer.

30th May 2007, 23:40

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save up a bit longer.

not any longer please

could try raceland encose off kam racing on here

31st May 2007, 00:00

http://www.kam-racing.com/product_in...roducts_id/273
is that what you meen?
will it fit the phase 2 vtr?
and it says there not in stock till the 22nd june

31st May 2007, 00:02

Build one mate. can pick up parts cheaper but make sure you know what your doing.

31st May 2007, 00:03

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s that what you meen?
will it fit the phase 2 vtr?
and it says there not in stock till the 22nd june

pm him on here mate and ask about fitment, and make sure you get a green filter for it off him

31st May 2007, 07:17

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Originally Posted by broughton_87

http://www.kam-racing.com/product_in...roducts_id/273
is that what you meen?
will it fit the phase 2 vtr?
and it says there not in stock till the 22nd june

yes thats the one, it will fit the mk2 VTR, but it doesn't sit flush to the slam panel, and ou will have to re-locate the power steering fluid!

31st May 2007, 10:13

With air filters it generally works like this

Open = Noise
Enclosed = Peformance

Open kits are ok to a point as long as they have a supply of cold air via a Cold air Feed. If your budget doesnt allow for an slightly more expensive enclosed filter a open cone will make the engine slightly more free reving and like mentioned with decent feed of cold air will slight improve throotle response But there are much cheaper open induction kits out there and for the money your looking at you could afford a enclosed RaceLand item from www.kam-racing.com

31st May 2007, 13:01

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Originally Posted by VTS_16v_Boy

open kits are ok if they have a supply of cold air via a Cold air Feed.

no theyre not as they still get heat soak, its not about just getting cool air to the filter its about reducing the heat soak that occurs, adding a cold air feed does not do this.

31st May 2007, 13:16

Yes I do agree with that but . . . But, open filters have been around for almost as long as EFi and only in the last few years have enclosed kits started to become more readyly available. We Saxo owners are very lucky as we can get Cheap RaceLand items other car owners are not so luck where open filters are all that are available to them.

So Yes they are not the best on the market but they a proven product that will add ponies if only a few and only if installed correctly with a cold air feed.

Also budget does come in to the matter.

31st May 2007, 13:20

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Originally Posted by VTS_16v_Boy

Yes I do agree with that but . . . But, open filters have been around for almost as long as EFi and only in the last few years have enclosed kits started to become more readyly available. We Saxo owners are very lucky as we can get Cheap RaceLand items other car owners are not so luck where open filters are all that are available to them.

So Yes they are not the best on the market but they a proven product that will add ponies if only a few and only if installed correctly with a cold air feed.

Also budget does come in to the matter.

on some engines this is not a problem due to the fact that the throtlle body and inlet is situated at the front of the engine, usually in the area by the battery, so heat soak is not so much of a problem, the problem is more on TU engines due to where the TB is situated, adding a KnN non enclosed on your TB may actually loose power due to the increased surface area of the cone getting a higher ammount of heat soak! the OE system would probably keep the engine running better in most cases a KnN or similar just makes a BWAAAP! and has no effect/worse effect on the engine.

31st May 2007, 15:39

if ure lookin to spend round 75 quid green are quite cheap some times

1st June 2007, 07:52

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Originally Posted by Itsafastworld85

on some engines this is not a problem due to the fact that the throtlle body and inlet is situated at the front of the engine, usually in the area by the battery, so heat soak is not so much of a problem, the problem is more on TU engines due to where the TB is situated, adding a KnN non enclosed on your TB may actually loose power due to the increased surface area of the cone getting a higher ammount of heat soak! the OE system would probably keep the engine running better in most cases a KnN or similar just makes a BWAAAP! and has no effect/worse effect on the engine.

Good point well made I guess, but like I have mentioned before in prevous threads there is nothing wrong with relocating the cone behind the passanger side headlight as cold air will be entering around the headlight. Not ideal but a modilfied induction kit could be made for less than a enclosed filter or even a K&N 57i kit.

Yes enclosed are best, we all know that but I really dont think open filter are as bad as somepeople make out as they can be moved to 'cooler' parts of the engine bay

1st June 2007, 09:41

i would never spend over 100 quid on a enclosed one just look on ebay mate for one there are loads about.

that one did look like it came from pound strecher

1st June 2007, 09:45

I have a ram air filter you can have for the price of postage. PM me. But there billy bollox!

For a budget get a green filter.