Brake load compensator

1. RJ303 Established Member Joined: Oct 2006 Kingston Upon Hull area Posts: 1642 MG ZT CDTi Citroen C4 Picasso VTR+

   #1 1st June 2007, 10:35

   If your down 40mm all round do you need to adjust the brake load compensator on the rear of the car??
2. Icey_Furio Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2004 Fareham, Hants Posts: 383 Rattly old French can

   #2 1st June 2007, 22:17

   Depends how heavy you are on the brake pedal
   
   If you're getting the rear wheels to lock before the front, it needs adjusting. But personally I've never found it actually needed doing as most of those compensators are pretty crap at functioning in general. If its not locking up under hard braking I'd say you'd be ok personally.
3. RJ303 Established Member Joined: Oct 2006 Kingston Upon Hull area Posts: 1642 MG ZT CDTi Citroen C4 Picasso VTR+

   #3 1st June 2007, 22:20

   K cheers bud the cars not lowered yet but was just pre empting having to do it while it was getting lowered but we'll see. If I end up in a hedge I will let you know
4. Icey_Furio Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2004 Fareham, Hants Posts: 383 Rattly old French can

   #4 1st June 2007, 22:27

   LOL ok mate
   
   If you do get any issues its pretty easy to adjust, if it isn't rusted.
5. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

   #5 1st June 2007, 23:23

   what ecu do you have? 3 plug cars dont have a bias valve, they have EBD.
6. doubledavies Established Member Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 1400

   #6 2nd June 2007, 10:07

   yes! adjust the bias valve as it wont be standard height anymore!
   
   
7. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

   #7 2nd June 2007, 11:50

   if its a 3 plug thought it wont have 1.
8. RJ303 Established Member Joined: Oct 2006 Kingston Upon Hull area Posts: 1642 MG ZT CDTi Citroen C4 Picasso VTR+

   #8 2nd June 2007, 16:27

   Its a single plug 90bhp thanks for the diagram
9. GRAHAM2000VTR Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 peterborough Posts: 2861 2003 black vtr current escort van lol 2006 ford

   #9 2nd June 2007, 17:35

   i got the same issue on my vtr car bin lowered 40mm all round and i just changed all the brakes green stuff pads all round and brembo performance 20 grooved disc since i fitted these the rear locks up easy or when the car is light say on a bend went 2 adjust seized solid sprayed with some wd40 gonna have a play 2moz
10. RJ303 Established Member Joined: Oct 2006 Kingston Upon Hull area Posts: 1642 MG ZT CDTi Citroen C4 Picasso VTR+

    #10 2nd June 2007, 17:39

    let us know how ya get on mate? Also how to adjust too.
11. doubledavies Established Member Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 1400

    #11 2nd June 2007, 21:19

    just turn the nut labelled 3!
    
    trial and error as there is no exact science or compare a standard and lowered valve!
    
    take it easy untill its properly calibrated!
    
    dont want any spin outs
12. RJ303 Established Member Joined: Oct 2006 Kingston Upon Hull area Posts: 1642 MG ZT CDTi Citroen C4 Picasso VTR+

    #12 2nd June 2007, 21:31

    Cool will have to monitor it, no charging onto round abouts till then
13. user_12490 Established Member Joined: Nov 2006 Newcastle upon tyne Posts: 1753 161.5 bhp VTS and cammed 2 tone vtr.

    #13 2nd June 2007, 22:38

    im having the rear wheels lock up way too often. mines a 3 plug phase 2, what do i need to do to stop this happening, cos its kinda scary.
14. Reid Frequent Poster Joined: Apr 2007 Coatbridge Posts: 673 EP3 Civic Type R

    #14 4th June 2007, 13:42

    my mate says these tend to jam after a certain age. so you may need to replace it or un seize it. If u bypass it would the rear lock up all the time aye cos his work bypass them on vans all the time lol
15. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #15 4th June 2007, 19:47

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by TIPSY im having the rear wheels lock up way too often. mines a 3 plug phase 2, what do i need to do to stop this happening, cos its kinda scary.

    yorus will be a porblem in the brake system, are they properly bled?? the 3 plugs ahve EBD on them so no load compensator.
    or is your rear lower than the front?
16. Mark51p Super Moderator Joined: Sep 2006 Wakefield Posts: 14427 Golf GT

    #16 4th June 2007, 19:58

    mine 40mm all round and i have never had a problem, even when i had my standard brakes. however i do have drums on the back, dont know if that makes any difference
17. spencer_cammedvts Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2005 MEASHAM United Kingdom (England) Posts: 3445 257bhp Ibiza Cupra Turbo

    #17 5th July 2007, 12:38

    iv got brembos on the front and my rars still lock up 1st!
18. saxoash Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Sep 2005 East Yorkshire United Kingdom (England) Posts: 6169 VTR

    #18 5th July 2007, 16:18

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by spencer_cammedvts iv got brembos on the front and my rars still lock up 1st!

    Due to less weight at the rear and also when braking everything is thrown forward so rear will lock up first in most cases. having a stripped saxo wont help matters and i dont think the bias valve and the EBD are any good on a saxo anyway
19. spencer_cammedvts Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2005 MEASHAM United Kingdom (England) Posts: 3445 257bhp Ibiza Cupra Turbo

    #19 5th July 2007, 17:00

    rang citroen. most of em are seized apparently so need the arm freeing off
20. Sean Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2005 St Andrews United Kingdom (Scotland) Posts: 7384 Green mk1 vtr/s and Focus zetec

    #20 5th July 2007, 19:05

    rip the valve off and put a t-piece in it's place or fit a proper manually adjustable bias valve.
21. Reid Frequent Poster Joined: Apr 2007 Coatbridge Posts: 673 EP3 Civic Type R

    #21 9th July 2007, 15:47

    If you put a t piece in untill you fix it just remember not to late brake etc as you will lock up and prob spin out
22. nickwillyhams Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2009 Stoke-on-Trent Posts: 247 2000 16v

    #22 15th August 2009, 11:43

    well thought id bring this back to life as it kinda what im looking for only other thing is i need to no which way to turn the adjuster screw on the compensator to take some force away from the rears!? cheers
23. ax_jas Newbie Joined: Dec 2008 Blackpool, Lancashire Posts: 8 1995 Mk2 Citroen Ax Forte VTS

    #23 3rd September 2009, 07:24

    Anyone had any joy un seizing one of these valves?
    When they are working, should the arm be able to move by hand or are they quite stiff any way?
    
    Ive bought three from breakers and they are all solid. Ive soaked them in oil for 3 weeks and they aint budging!
    
    Any ideas (apart from buying a new one) ?
24. user_16990 Frequent Poster Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 810 2001 VTS

    #24 3rd September 2009, 07:38

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ax_jas Anyone had any joy un seizing one of these valves? When they are working, should the arm be able to move by hand or are they quite stiff any way? Ive bought three from breakers and they are all solid. Ive soaked them in oil for 3 weeks and they aint budging! Any ideas (apart from buying a new one) ?

    I used plenty of WD-40 and some elbow grease to unseize mine. Should be able to move it by hand dude.
25. davidharvey Established Member Joined: Aug 2008 Mull of Kintyre Posts: 1496 Saxo VTR. Pug 407. trabant...seriously VW T25

    #25 3rd September 2009, 14:17

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by williamsvts what ecu do you have? 3 plug cars dont have a bias valve, they have EBD.

    Mine has one of those compensator thingies and its a 3 plug, 02 plate VTR