yet another manifold thread :)

  1. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2007 Bournemouth Posts: 15289 '04 VW Transporter.
    #1
    now before everyone posts "scroll through older threads"

    this is a new one ive gone through most and cant find this one


    the gmc 4-1 mild steel manfold VS raceland 4-2-1 s/s


    its going on a phase two 98hp vtr

    im after up to 100 street "nippy ness" and the odd track day sort of power ??


    your opinions please lads
  2. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2006 West Sussex Posts: 6280 Mk2 Saxo Vts
    #2
    I have a gmc 4-1 on my vts.

    The gmc 4-1 will rust alot quicker as its only mild steel.
    It will give more power top end as its 4-1.

    The raceland as its so cheap im not sure how long it will last but it is s/s so should stay looking pretty for a good while.
    It will give even power through out the rev range as its 4-2-1.

    As you have a vtr id would want more power top end as they die out where the vts is still going...

    Tough one though as its only mild steel....

    Hmmmm id get the raceland, i think i will when mine needs changing anyway, as it came with the car im not sure how old it is!?
  3. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2007 Bournemouth Posts: 15289 '04 VW Transporter.
    #3
    the only thing is i no it sounds stupid because its obvuosly there product but on the gmc website they reakon its better because its mild and gives more power gains than a 4-2-1 even at low end ???, ive always fitted and beleived in stainless steel to be honest over mild

    ive just heard such good things about the gmc and wondered if people who had them rated them over the 4-2-1 ss's ones


    anyone no if they do s/s couldnt find it on the site ?

  4. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2006 West Sussex Posts: 6280 Mk2 Saxo Vts
    #4
    I know their site doesnt get updated much so best bet is to phone.

    I havent had a stainless so cant realy help.

    The gmc is much more than the raceland though.
  5. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2007 Bournemouth Posts: 15289 '04 VW Transporter.
    #5
    im after getting the most out of my car so not trying to sound stuck up but im after the best regardless of cost (Y) thanks for your help anyway m8
  6. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2006 West Sussex Posts: 6280 Mk2 Saxo Vts
    #6
    The gmc it is then.

    4-1 is what YOU need as its a vtr not vts.
  7. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2007 Bournemouth Posts: 15289 '04 VW Transporter.
    #7
    noone else have any opinions the more the better

    think i might look at a 4-1 raceland or supersprint becuase the gmc being mild is a massive put off
  8. L-plater Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 36
    #8
    raceland all the way, i had one on my gti and a noticeable gain was achieved and sound, looks everything was perfect, and as mild steel rusts in most cases from inside out one corrosion has started the flow will be interrupted, hard to explain but think about it if the inside of the pipe is not smooth like stainless,
  9. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2004 Hull (England) Posts: 18709 1.6 vtr
    #9
    GMC all the way

    dont have to move the oil filter, fits like a dream and gives good gains

    well worth every penny

    best mod on my car by far
  10. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2007 Burton Posts: 3661 Alfa Romeo GT
    #10
    I went with the raceland, there was a noticeable difference in the sound of the car and it also picked up from standstill a lot better, as for top end power its not very often I test it but i havent noticed any distinct loss

    Edit: After reading hessle I agree it would be less hassle for you to get the gmc as you dont have to move it oil filter as yours is a 98BHP.
  11. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2007 Bournemouth Posts: 15289 '04 VW Transporter.
    #11
    you dont have to have the oil filter with the gmc but you do with the raceland ??

    somone please explain because i thought you had to move it with any aftermarket manifold ?

    "hesslevtr" are you running the mild steel one ?
  12. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2004 Hull (England) Posts: 18709 1.6 vtr
    #12
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by MiniGibbo View Post
    you dont have to have the oil filter with the gmc but you do with the raceland ??

    somone please explain because i thought you had to move it with any aftermarket manifold ?

    "hesslevtr" are you running the mild steel one ?
    stainless for me

    the new gmc ones fit both types of vtr and dont need to move the oil filter hence why i bought it
  13. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2007 Bournemouth Posts: 15289 '04 VW Transporter.
    #13
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by hesslevtr View Post
    stainless for me

    the new gmc ones fit both types of vtr and dont need to move the oil filter hence why i bought it

    i went though there website and couldnt find a s/s one, i swear im computer retarded you havent got a link buy any chance have you please
  14. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2004 Hull (England) Posts: 18709 1.6 vtr
    #14
    its an old site hasnt been updated for ages

    plus i dont think you can link from gmc anyway

    its on there it says mk2 vtr manifold for both vtrs think its price was 210 or 230
  15. Established Member Joined: Jan 2005 Maldon, Essex Posts: 2470 '03 Posi Blue VTS (R.I.P) 11 Plate Peugeot 'thing'
    #15
    get a Raceland 4-2-1 and heat wrap it up, might not look nice but will keep the temperature down

    ordered one for my VTS, jsut waiting for it to turn up!
  16. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2007 Bournemouth Posts: 15289 '04 VW Transporter.
    #16
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by themarkyg View Post
    get a Raceland 4-2-1 and heat wrap it up, might not look nice but will keep the temperature down

    ordered one for my VTS, jsut waiting for it to turn up!

    i wouldnt even entertain not heat wrapping a s/s manifold

    i think im going to go for the 4-1 s/s gmc manifold think itll suit the omp class n system well

    thanks guys.