Ebay chips and electric superchargers

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    These are asked about daily so please read before asking if they are any good.

    Ebay modifications - chips and electric superchargers.

    Due to many people ripping people off on ebay selling these modifications i felt i should write up about them.

    Firstly the ebay chip.
    It will not give the claimed bhp by the companies, tuning is not that simple you dont just get 25bhp from adding a £10 ebay chip. The ebay chips are simply a resistor in a flash box, all this does to the ecu is make it think there is more air comming into the inlet than there actually is, so fueling is increased, this overfueling will just cause bad MPG and engine wear which will lead to you eventually killing your engine.

    A chipped ECU (superchips)
    In some cases with some engines they can work quite well, however they really are not the best you can get, if you are putting a set of cams into your engine with some headwork for example you need to have the ecu MAPPED, this mapping should be done on a rolling road by a specialist. They will plug your ecu into a laptop/computer and reprograme the ecu so that it works the best with all of the modifications you have done to it. A Chip does not do this, a chip has a base map which will not be programmed to get the best out of the modifications you have done in your car. A mapping session can be done on a standard ecu although if you plan to go wild with the engine and fit throttle bodies/supercharger/turbocharger an aftermarket/standalone ecu is something you need to look into.

    Electric supercharger
    This one seems to be popping up alot recently, a proper supercharger conversion will cost several thousand pouds and is driven off of the engine to give good power, a belt is connected via a set of pulleys to the charger that effectively compresses the air going into the inlet manifold giving it more pressure and then more power.
    The electric supercharger is basically a very poor imitation of this, its using a tiny fan rather than like that in your PC, now stick your head out of a window and feel the pressure when you are driving, this is the speed at which the air is going into your inlet, the fan WILL NOT be able to increase the velocity of this air as its just a tiny little electric fan, it will probably get more speed from the air passing through it than it gets from its own driven motor.

    Basically tuning isnt cheap, if you want big bhp you need to spend big £££, if you find something on ebay thats claiming big bhp gains for pennys its usually not going to happen.

    please note this is just a rough guide.
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    well done mate, a quick summary is that ebay chips and superchargers are crap and will probably end up damaging your car
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mark51 View Post
    well done mate, a quick summary is that ebay chips and superchargers are crap and will probably end up damaging your car
    i felt all was needed was a quick not to 'deep' explanation, if i got to technical it would confuse the vast majority of newbies
  4. #4
    agreed mate, some people lack commensence
  5. #5
    great guide rep on its way
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    Good thread. Make that a great thread. I hope people read it before asking. I think you may want to add the ecotec valve to this thread as well. Even a warning against ebay ported heads possibly. Perhaps just a warning against ebay parts in general lol
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    just a clarifier... the company 'Superchips' actually do ECU remaps and shouldn't be confused with actual superchips.

    nice work ryan
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    Well done…
    I just want to add a little thing to your post: Remaping or chiping a ecu depends from engine to engine. For example, 2 VTS from the same year and with the same miles could have different remaping because the engines are different, because one can have a owner that used to get the pedal to the metal, and the other could be from an old lady.

    (please if I write a mistake, tell me!!!)
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by stevcatristicas View Post
    Well done…
    I just want to add a little thing to your post: Remaping or chiping a ecu depends from engine to engine. For example, 2 VTS from the same year and with the same miles could have different remaping because the engines are different, because one can have a owner that used to get the pedal to the metal, and the other could be from an old lady.

    (please if I write a mistake, tell me!!!)
    read my post, it says that an engine needs mapping because of the differences between engines and mods

    and the map of the engine wont be on how it was driven really tbh

    Quote:
    however they really are not the best you can get, if you are putting a set of cams into your engine with some headwork for example you need to have the ecu MAPPED, this mapping should be done on a rolling road by a specialist
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    Sorry
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by stevcatristicas View Post
    Sorry
    not a problem at least you are asking, ive tried to make my post as simple as possible yet still informing. i didnt want to go into really big detail or have lots of explanations as it tends to confuse people or they just give up reading half way.
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    great guide Ry its about time we had a sticky like this! whats the bet some n00b ends up posting a thread about one of the above in the next week or so!? lol
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    DUDE POST THAT ON THE EBAY COMMUNITY FORUM LOL

    or even better put it on ebay say for a buy it now of 1p lol

    tell ppl not to buy it BUT to read it so no one on ebay will get ripped off by stupid things such as an electric fan or a lil chip.


    good right up you do better work then jeremy clarkson in his mag HAHAHAHAHA REP GIVEN (if i can give u it)
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    was gonna suggest you do a sticky for ebay rubbish, oh great minds
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by bullit View Post
    was gonna suggest you do a sticky for ebay rubbish, oh great minds
    your only a week or so late my friend

    wtf my pic you git!
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    actually not been on much recently was gonna say you do it anyway
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by S34MER View Post
    great guide Ry its about time we had a sticky like this! whats the bet some n00b ends up posting a thread about one of the above in the next week or so!? lol

    I was actually pretty close to posting a question about all the ebay deals. When it comes to the internet and forums i am quite well experienced, when it comes to cars i am in fact a total noob of the lowest form. This place helps me out a lot, obviously the majority of people are voting against the ebay products up for sale, which has saved me money AND probably my car. Well done for the thread and thanks.
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    Cheers boss for this
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    what I find funny is the amount of people who are actually 'impressed' by the resistors in the feedbacks...
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by squall457 View Post
    what I find funny is the amount of people who are actually 'impressed' by the resistors in the feedbacks...
    it induces over fueling so will make the car feel different, it will also make it go bang faster
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    resistor chips go on the air temp sensor so they just make the ecu think the air is cooler and hence has a higher oxygen content and is denser for the given airflow reading(map sensor & TPS). It therefore makes the ecu increase injector duration to compensate. This makes the engine overfuel slightly, or at least increases fuelling, which can lead to a loss in power and even bore wash - petrol going down/lying on the bores and greatly reducing the effectiveness of the oil.

    just to clarify in real tech terms how shite resistor chips are lol
  22. #22
    should try and get this pinned up on ssc
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    just keeping it simple, as most people who look at buying these generally wont have a clue what the technical terms may mean
  24. #24
    Good point Ryanal. I'll pin and lock this on ssc if you want to put it there...
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AlexR View Post
    Good point Ryanal. I'll pin and lock this on ssc if you want to put it there...
    im happy if you want to use it on ssc, i meerly did it for here as it seemed to get asked more often than ssc.

    just tried to keep it as basic and to the point as possible.

    if you want to use it as a termplate yet go into alot more depth feel free
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    anyone fancy joining me in creating the next ebay fad...

    Fridge coolers put in the intake system... Im fucking clever innit, why didn't i think of this before!??!?!

    ©ADSAYER
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post
    anyone fancy joining me in creating the next ebay fad...

    Fridge coolers put in the intake system... Im fucking clever innit, why didn't i think of this before!??!?!

    ©ADSAYER
    dry ice
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Itsafastworld85 View Post
    dry ice
    hahah... shot of CO2 anyone?
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post
    hahah... shot of CO2 anyone?
    oh yes please with my martinie remember shaken not sturd lol

    i got a new one adsayer hows about

    car decals FOR UNDER YOUR CAR lol some idiot would buy that thinking it would make there car look cool HAHAHAHAHA
  30. #30
    good guide well needed for some.
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    What would be the best performance upgrade for around £300 to increase BHP on a Saxo VTR.... anybody?
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    Hi
    i no somone who brought an electric supercharger,then fan in side it used to suck it more air broke off , went into the engine and damamged it,(badly)
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by youngy01 View Post
    Hi
    i no somone who brought an electric supercharger,then fan in side it used to suck it more air broke off , went into the engine and damamged it,(badly)

    HAHAHAHAHA!
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    just a quick 1,

    the bluefin superchips..... they anygood?
  35. #35
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by nazz1 View Post
    just a quick 1,

    the bluefin superchips..... they anygood?
    not on a saxo/106 engine.
  36. #36
    LOL! My bad :$
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    these dont work then?
  38. #38
    good post!
  39. #39
    Nice one mate hopefully we should get less 'electric supercharger' threads popping up

    Martin.
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    please tell me why these blue fin chips arent good 4 saxo's i love to know

    just what are good 4 vtr's cos all u poeple seem to do is slag everythink off




    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ryan View Post
    not on a saxo/106 engine.
  41. #41
    Why are you on this site?

    1st post and causing trouble..
  42. #42
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by samura1 View Post
    please tell me why these blue fin chips arent good 4 saxo's i love to know

    just what are good 4 vtr's cos all u poeple seem to do is slag everythink off
    because of the way the chip is installed, they are rarely set up correctly. and are often still universal, to get the best out of the engine it needs to be mapped according to the mods that it is running, on an engine dyno or rolling road.

    the best for a vtr is a remap to the standard ecu after all of the engine mods have been finished or a mapped standalone ecu.
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    and if you read the main post you would see that its all said there
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by samura1 View Post
    please tell me why these blue fin chips arent good 4 saxo's i love to know

    just what are good 4 vtr's cos all u poeple seem to do is slag everythink off
    the best thing for a vtr is a new engine. try putin a vts in it, best mod going
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    It's only worth getting a remap on a VTR after cam yea? No point with all breathing mods done?