Different engines...

4th June 2007, 22:25

My idea of writing this post was to ask if anyone knows examples of this engine tuning:
Saxo with AX GTi engine;
Saxo with AX Sport engine,
Saxo with HDi engine;
Saxo with 1.9 GTi engine;
Saxo with Xsara 2.0 VTS engine;
Saxo with Turbo CT engine;
Saxo with carbs;
Etc

(please if I write a mistake, tell me!!!)

4th June 2007, 23:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevcatristicas

My idea of writing this post was to ask if anyone knows examples of this engine tuning:
Saxo with AX GTi engine;
Saxo with AX Sport engine,
Saxo with HDi engine;
Saxo with 1.9 GTi engine;
Saxo with Xsara 2.0 VTS engine;
Saxo with Turbo CT engine;
Saxo with carbs;
Etc

(please if I write a mistake, tell me!!!)

a few of the engines on the list there, there wouldnt be a point in usuing as there are much more available and affordable engines out there.

The xsara engine has probably been fitted to a saxo ive not seen one though, however there have been several 106s with the gti-6 engine which is basically the same.

ive seen a few s1/s2 106 rallyes running bike carbs, peronsally i think its a backwards step, however im not sure of how strict emmisions tests are in portuagal?

4th June 2007, 23:12

would love to lob a 1.4 16v HDI into the saxo... then superchip it... 130hp and a shed load of torque

4th June 2007, 23:18

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Originally Posted by adsayer

would love to lob a 1.4 16v HDI into the saxo... then superchip it... 130hp and a shed load of torque

go stand in the corner

4th June 2007, 23:41

Lol Engine tuning in Portugal is crime for two reasons: Legally speaking and the price of certain things, like fuel.
If I buy a car today, 4 years from now, I have to go to a thing that we call IPO. In the IPO the cars have suspension tests, breaks tests, emission tests, verify the correct dimension of the tyres, etc The test results depend on the car condition. If the car fails certain tests, the car has to go to the workshop, end return to IPO to see if the problems have been repaired. Two years later the same thing, another two years the same, an than every years the car has to go to IPO.
Now days for example if the police think that you have modified the car, they send you to an IPO B. In an IPO B, the car suffers more tests to see if he has more power, if the engine is the same when the car was booted, etc

Id putted the list to know if it was possible to do that sort of things (I know! Impossible is nothing), if it was possible to put a two litter engine in a small body of a Saxo.
Now about carbs I like cars with carbs, because the have more torque at low RPM than an ordinary injection engine and in a carb engine, if you want it to have a little more power (a little hover boost

) we just have to rise a little bit of the throttle pedal, and than put the foot down again.

(please if I write a mistake, tell me!!!)

4th June 2007, 23:45

but you now have throttle bodies that are alot better set up than carbs imo!

theres many 16v engines running on throttle bodies here now.

yes the 2.0 has been done but requires a fair bit of work.

your IPO's sound quite harsh tbh, 2 years is the same as our MOTs are being proposed to be changed to from 1 year.

5th June 2007, 00:07

so is it totally illegal to modify your cars engine? there is someone on saxosportsclub from portugal with a turbo'd vts.

5th June 2007, 00:11

ur IPO is like our MOT here, but we have an MOT every year over here..

5th June 2007, 00:28

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Originally Posted by Itsafastworld85

go stand in the corner and wank

7th June 2007, 11:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by williamsvts

so is it totally illegal to modify your cars engine? there is someone on saxosportsclub from portugal with a turbo'd vts.

Thats right In Portugal is totally illegal to modify the engine, the suspension, the rims and tyres, the brakes, etc If you want to make your car safer, you cant do it because its illegal. That guys that have turbo VTS (Cup), they can do two things: remove the turbo and then go to IPO or have a friend in IPO that illegally pass his car. But if the police order him to go to IPO B, he is in big troubles

7th June 2007, 12:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by adsayer

would love to lob a 1.4 16v HDI into the saxo... then superchip it... 130hp and a shed load of torque

Lol, But it would still be terrible. Turbo lag heaven and such a short power band you will have to change gear constantly. It would most likely be slower round most uk tracks than sticking a standard AX 1.3 engine in. The HDIs are really quite hasty things to drive with no real satisfaction.

7th June 2007, 17:48

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Originally Posted by AXracing

Lol, But it would still be terrible. Turbo lag heaven and such a short power band you will have to change gear constantly. It would most likely be slower round most uk tracks than sticking a standard AX 1.3 engine in. The HDIs are really quite hasty things to drive with no real satisfaction.

naa it'll be fine. I had a 1.4HDI C3 back in the day and my mate had the 1.4 Petrol C3, there was absolutely NO difference in performance except his cost him more to run.

pow.

7th June 2007, 18:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by AXracing

Lol, But it would still be terrible. Turbo lag heaven and such a short power band you will have to change gear constantly. It would most likely be slower round most uk tracks than sticking a standard AX 1.3 engine in. The HDIs are really quite hasty things to drive with no real satisfaction.

What a stupid post. Like you'd build a diesel track car. You'd build it as a daily driver, which is were the modern Derv is a good thing, lots of torque and a relaxed style is the way to drive a derv

7th June 2007, 19:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by AXracing

Lol, But it would still be terrible. Turbo lag heaven and such a short power band you will have to change gear constantly. It would most likely be slower round most uk tracks than sticking a standard AX 1.3 engine in. The HDIs are really quite hasty things to drive with no real satisfaction.

Don't these diesel turbo's run a small charger? like a t15 or something similiar? If so i doubt there will be much turbo lag.

7th June 2007, 21:31

Here in Portugal, now is the wave of diesel cars. Personally I dont like so much diesel cars They have a massive torque and they are very easy to tuning (almost everyone with a laptop and a cable can upgrade a diesel engine), but that thing, that amazing sensation of high RPM, that sound of the engine from a petrol car, no diesel engine can do that. I have a friend that his deal is to chip and reprogram diesel and petrol ECUs. Personally he likes more petrol engines.