what is ideal for the vts.

1. D_G_SAXO Established Member Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 1491

   #1 6th June 2007, 08:33

   i picked up my vts yesterday and it looks like it is on stilts and feels like it to. i am going to be lowering it myself and a mate.
   
   Wanted to know how low to go? (for best handling)
   
   Lowering the rear torsion bar what is the best way to tell if u have lowered it the correct mm?
   
   Is the back of the saxo supose to sit slightly higher then the front?
   
   so if i lower the car should i do it so the rear sits up more then the front?
2. Karl Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26

   #2 6th June 2007, 08:51

   drop it 40mm all around.
   back will be higher than the front.
   this is a good thing.
3. D_G_SAXO Established Member Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 1491

   #3 6th June 2007, 08:56

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Soulless drop it 40mm all around. back will be higher than the front. this is a good thing.

   
   thanks mate
   
   How will i be able to tell i have lowered the back 40mm?
4. Karl Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26

   #4 6th June 2007, 09:01

   If you lower it "properly"
   you can measure the amount you are lowering it by.
   
   If you do it by splines, one notch is around 40mm however people on this site will advise you not to do it by splines.
5. D_G_SAXO Established Member Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 1491

   #5 6th June 2007, 09:04

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Soulless If you lower it "properly" you can measure the amount you are lowering it by. If you do it by splines, one notch is around 40mm however people on this site will advise you not to do it by splines.

   
   so where would i measure from?
6. Karl Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26

   #6 6th June 2007, 09:05

   Find a lowering Torsion bar guide.
   All will be explained there.
   Sure if you look through the Search function youll find a guide.
7. VTS_16v_Boy Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2006 Dartford Kent Posts: 5251 Pug 1007 HDi Sport (daily) / Abarth 500

   #7 6th June 2007, 09:11

   Right the best for handling and looks is anywhere between 30mm - 40mm
   
   Measure from the arch to the tyre to work out how its gona look but to be honest your best off letting a garage sort the back out.
   
   This was mine on 15' S rims and 35mm Pi suspension with the back matched, still sits abit heigh at the rear but thats becuase mines stripped out, a normal car should sit more level.
   
   With somewhere between 35mm-40mm I catch my lower strut brace so be warned, but better that than my manifold
   
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   Heres some pic's after it had settled down fronts more like 40mm to be honest
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   Id strongly recommend poly bushes all round to firm everything up and a Lower OMP strut brace, Ive got a top as well but its the bottom that does all the work I reckon
   
   
   
   Go for a Full kit (mines Pi and not brilliant but it does the job) Poly bushes and Lower brace for the win
   
   I went full hog and bought a Group A 106 Anti Roll Bar as well but thats abit ott and was a fortune, with decent shocks and springs I reckon mine would really hold its own on a track.
   
   
   Im now down on 14's and it sits spot on
   
   
8. Karl Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26

   #8 6th June 2007, 09:13

   That lower brace...
   do you not find it catches on things all the time?
9. VTS_16v_Boy Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2006 Dartford Kent Posts: 5251 Pug 1007 HDi Sport (daily) / Abarth 500

   #9 6th June 2007, 09:21

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Soulless That lower brace... do you not find it catches on things all the time?

   Well, before I had my car lowered Id catch my Janspeed centre box on very large bumps so I removed it.
   
   When I found out that where I had catched my centre box a few times had cracked my Janspeed 4-2-1 manifold I changed it to a Piper 4-1 now on bumps that I cleared with my Janspeed manifold I caught with my Piper!
   
   Now Im lowered and have the Lower strut brace I do fine I have caught a thing of two and also I almost beached myself at Leed castle when I dropped down into a rut mad by cars in the carpark which was a field
   
   I thought it was funny, missis was abit worried tho
   
   So yes I do but not as much as you might think, as Im only down between 35mm - 40mm, Id hate to have 50mm+ as that would be silly I reckon
10. Karl Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26

    #10 6th June 2007, 09:27

    i might avoid a lower brace for the problems it gives. im not hardcore enough anyways.
11. VTS_16v_Boy Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2006 Dartford Kent Posts: 5251 Pug 1007 HDi Sport (daily) / Abarth 500

    #11 6th June 2007, 09:34

    heheheheh
    
    Id say if you was between 25mm - 35mm it would be fine any lower and its possible your going to catch it on things.
    
    Like Kam-Racing have mentioned in the past, Its all a case of yes it WILL improve the handling of the car but most people neither have good enough suspension setup and tyres not to mention driver tallent to take advantage of the improvements that braces give.
    
    The only really pay off when you are really pushing the car to its limits but its nice to know its there when and if I ever want to push it further than I normally would
12. Scottp Administrator Joined: Dec 2002 Glasgow United Kingdom (Scotland) Posts: 26097 Chelski Traktor

    #12 6th June 2007, 09:34

    your a premium member, look at the premium how to guides for a step by step walk through of lowering the car