best type of exhaust system+ air filter??

1. Adamski_frst Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2007 solihull Posts: 167 escort cossie/vts

   #1 6th June 2007, 15:04

   ok guys new to the saxo scene not wanting major mods here just want a closed induction filter and good straight through exhaust system with a 3'' slash end pipe anyone got any good ideas/tips on what makes and where to buy....
   
   cheers Ad
2. Karl Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26

   #2 6th June 2007, 15:08

   Piper make good exhausts.
   Filters = BMC or Raceland enclosed.
3. Colin Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2006 Banbury Posts: 4623 Saxo Rally Car Evo 6

   #3 6th June 2007, 15:09

   Search..... or
   
   OMP Group N and Green enclosed / simota / raceland enclosed with green filter.
   
   Or a Green panel filter in the standard housing.
4. jimbo06 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2006 Sunderland Posts: 3052 52 VTS, 172 Cup

   #4 6th June 2007, 15:32

   for the filter either a bmc, or a raceland with a green filter used. for the exhaust a piper system but the slash cut is 4".
5. Adamski_frst Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2007 solihull Posts: 167 escort cossie/vts

   #5 6th June 2007, 15:39

   i wanted the indutcion type maybe called forced induction actually, the sort that bolts on to the slam panel and has a pipe to the throttle body, my mate had one on his old 106gti been looking on the net but cant see anything!? maybe me being blind!?
   
   as for exhaust just wanted something nice, not too loud and not to chavy looking thats why i wanted a 3'' rather than 4
6. CampDavid Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2006 Bedford Posts: 7457 Saxo VTS Peugeot 306 GTI-6 Astra SRI

   #6 6th June 2007, 15:45

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Adamski_frst i wanted the indutcion type maybe called forced induction actually, the sort that bolts on to the slam panel and has a pipe to the throttle body, my mate had one on his old 106gti been looking on the net but cant see anything!? maybe me being blind!? as for exhaust just wanted something nice, not too loud and not to chavy looking thats why i wanted a 3'' rather than 4

   ENCLOSED, not forced. Forced induction is where air is forced in, either by a turbo or a supercharger
   
   BMC is a good filter, as is the green ENCLOSED
   
   Magnex/Scorpion are good and suttle
7. Adamski_frst Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2007 solihull Posts: 167 escort cossie/vts

   #7 6th June 2007, 17:04

   from my experience magnex are slient and scorpian can be restrictive ??
   
   where sells the green enclosed??
   
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8. mattyk Infrequent Poster Joined: Mar 2007 St Helens Posts: 190 03 Saxo VTR

   #8 6th June 2007, 17:34

   yeah were can I get a raceland enclosed? Or is the BMC SOOOO much better I should wait for one to come up
9. doubledavies Established Member Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 1400

   #9 6th June 2007, 17:36

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Adamski_frst from my experience magnex are slient and scorpian can be restrictive ?? where sells the green enclosed?? Ad

   magnex are not silent!
   
   they produce a nice tone which is not too ott and they fill the bumper recess perfectly
10. jimbo232 Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2007 Leicester, UK Posts: 505 Saxo VTS (2000) Wicked Red

    #10 6th June 2007, 19:06

    Thought id ask a question seems as it seems the subject.
    
    Got paid so thought id treat myself to a full system. Powerflow gona make me a full one with a 3" end for around £320. fitted. Good choice or bad.
11. doubledavies Established Member Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 1400

    #11 6th June 2007, 19:07

    dont let them stick the powerflow sticker on! looks gash imo
12. saxoash Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Sep 2005 East Yorkshire United Kingdom (England) Posts: 6169 VTR

    #12 6th June 2007, 19:17

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by doubledavies magnex are not silent! they produce a nice tone which is not too ott and they fill the bumper recess perfectly

    There one of the quietest exhaust for a saxo, and you have a huge oil can poking below your bumper
13. doubledavies Established Member Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 1400

    #13 6th June 2007, 19:22

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by saxoash There one of the quietest exhaust for a saxo, and you have a huge oil can poking below your bumper

    the best suited imo!
14. dobsd001 Infrequent Poster Joined: Jul 2006 West Sussex Posts: 116 Citroen Saxo Vts

    #14 6th June 2007, 19:48

    Magnex systems are good and once they get warm, after about ten mins they give a nice good tone. You can also make this louder by adding a de-cat pipe. The magnex also comes as 3.5" but is not a slash.
    As for induction kit, if you have the money, go for a BMC, but if not then get the raceland enclosed with green filter imo.
15. Jimmy-Boy Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2006 Suffolk Posts: 7551 N/A 200bhp+ per ton 106 gti

    #15 6th June 2007, 20:05

    piper all the way!
16. Adamski_frst Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2007 solihull Posts: 167 escort cossie/vts

    #16 6th June 2007, 20:42

    anyone got any pics of the exhaust's and filters to tempt me with!?
17. doubledavies Established Member Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 1400

    #17 6th June 2007, 20:44

    PM predator VTR
    
    or:
    
    http://www.saxosportsclub.com/Forums.../start=30.html
    
    page 2
18. user_8040 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2005 MaDchester Posts: 8432 Vts

    #18 7th June 2007, 01:43

    piper 4" is best imo, alot better than oil can magnex's lol
    
    and a bmc is good otherwise raceland..
19. MarkyG Established Member Joined: Jan 2005 Maldon, Essex Posts: 2470 '03 Posi Blue VTS (R.I.P) 11 Plate Peugeot 'thing'

    #19 7th June 2007, 08:35

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by doubledavies magnex are not silent! they produce a nice tone which is not too ott and they fill the bumper recess perfectly

    i agree with you about the Magnex, i have a 3.5" one on my VTS, not silent whatsoever, has a ver y nice tone and not this boy racer PAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRPPPPPPPPPPPP! rubbish.
20. Karl Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26

    #20 7th June 2007, 08:45

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by themarkyg i agree with you about the Magnex, i have a 3.5" one on my VTS, not silent whatsoever, has a ver y nice tone and not this boy racer PAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRPPPPPPPPPPPP! rubbish.

    What if i like my exhaust to go PAAAARRRRP
21. Colin Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2006 Banbury Posts: 4623 Saxo Rally Car Evo 6

    #21 7th June 2007, 09:35

    OMP = Pop, Bang, Rasp, Boom, Flame.....
    
    Dont be a women. Just get one.
22. VTS_16v_Boy Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2006 Dartford Kent Posts: 5251 Pug 1007 HDi Sport (daily) / Abarth 500

    #22 7th June 2007, 09:36

    Like I have mention before, there is no one 'Proven' best exhaust for a stock or mildly tuned 8v or 16v VT saxo.
    
    Any of the leading Stainless steel sports exhaust Magnex/Janspeed/Piper/Mongoose/Scorpion will perform well on any car with very little difference in performance but mainly in noise ie exhaust note which will be greatly effected by the size of the tialpipe.
    
    There are other brands out there in mild steel which steel come under sports exhausts
    Remus/Supersprint/Jetex/Sebring
    but these are harder to come by as they brought in from europe and generally cost around the same price as a Stainless steel item.
    
    For the best gains from ANY exhaust change the exhaust manifold to a better designed 4branch item and maybe a decat, remember tho removing the car will make the car non MoT passable and it will need to be returned to the car before the MoT.
    
    As for Airfilters your best bet is to go for a filter that is enclosed in a casing to protect it from heat in the engine bay - There are loads out there at varing costs.
    
    Best advice is to start with www.kam-racing.com look at what they sell as they are a parnter to Saxp and then deside what takes your fancy and fits your budget then either discuss on here on ask Kam-racing directly which products are best for you.
    
    Hope that helps, abit long but exhaust and airfilters is a huge subject to kram into one sort answer but still having enough information to get the point over
23. Karl Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26

    #23 7th June 2007, 09:38

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ColSax OMP = Pop, Bang, Rasp, Boom, Flame..... Dont be a women. Just get one.

    Sounds good.
24. VTS_16v_Boy Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2006 Dartford Kent Posts: 5251 Pug 1007 HDi Sport (daily) / Abarth 500

    #24 7th June 2007, 09:41

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Soulless Sounds good.

    I thought he was a women lol
25. Karl Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26

    #25 7th June 2007, 09:48

    Any exhaust that gives you some sort of gain and makes a noise you like the tone of = Good exhaust imo
26. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #26 7th June 2007, 10:00

    i love my magnex when driving normally its not much louder than standard but when floor it, sounds emense! Aparantly it sounds really good from out side!
    Got the de-cat pipe to go on which i have not fitted yet, but is meant to sound a lot better de-catted!
    
    
    
    note that my magnex wasnt fitted properly when i took that video! it sticks no where near as far out now
    
    For airfilter if you have the cash i say bmc
27. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #27 7th June 2007, 10:00

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ColSax OMP = Pop, Bang, Rasp, Boom, Flame..... Dont be a women. Just get one.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vF6f_hdsIgQ
    
    i love the start of that video
28. Karl Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26

    #28 7th June 2007, 10:01

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Steve_VTR note that my magnex wasnt fitted properly when i took that video! it sticks no where near as far out now

    Was gonna say does look like a bit of a cannon there.
    
    How did you find the Magnex system for gains?
29. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #29 7th June 2007, 10:05

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Soulless Was gonna say does look like a bit of a cannon there. How did you find the Magnex system for gains?

    revs more freeley, not noticed much to be honest, but my standard system was blowing like fuck before i fitted it so anything is going to be better.
    
    Running it with a gmc 4-1 manifold aswel! i didnt like the magnex looks at first as looked massive but now i like it not too loud! Sounds nice when open it up, thats on standard intake aswel at the moment
    
    But richie2104vtr just fitted janspeed 4-1 sports cat manifold with his scorpion it sounds the nuts when open it up, its not loud or out but high pitched and a bit raspy!
30. Karl Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26

    #30 7th June 2007, 10:08

    Oh nice!
    
    Mine is like...silly loud, proper chav sounding...
    but i like it
31. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #31 7th June 2007, 10:10

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Soulless Oh nice! Mine is like...silly loud, proper chav sounding... but i like it

    got a video?
32. Karl Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26

    #32 7th June 2007, 10:11

    lol no but ill try to make one, perhaps ill do one tonight.
    Ill get one of me driving and then going under a bridge or something...
33. VTS_16v_Boy Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2006 Dartford Kent Posts: 5251 Pug 1007 HDi Sport (daily) / Abarth 500

    #33 7th June 2007, 11:16

    Only thing with magnex is I dont like the way they hang and if its not fitted correctly the stick out to far. Piper have overtaken Magnex imo these days
    
    Magnex 3.5'
    
    
    Pipers 4' Slash cut miles better I reckon
    
34. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #34 7th June 2007, 11:17

    i dont like the piper slash cuts like the 3" inward rolled though
35. Karl Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26

    #35 7th June 2007, 11:19

    cant stand Slash cut exhausts, im sorry.
36. VTS_16v_Boy Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2006 Dartford Kent Posts: 5251 Pug 1007 HDi Sport (daily) / Abarth 500

    #36 7th June 2007, 12:17

    Alot of people have them these days and I think its a nice change from the influx of 3'-3.5' inwardly rolled tailpipes but I do like the Outwardly rolled Piper that Soulless (Karl) has recently got - 3.5' aint it mate?
37. Karl Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26

    #37 7th June 2007, 12:22

    nope.
    just the 3.
38. spencer_cammedvts Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2005 MEASHAM United Kingdom (England) Posts: 3445 257bhp Ibiza Cupra Turbo

    #38 7th June 2007, 12:37

    FOR THE BEST GAINS FOR A VTS YOUR BEST TO GO FOR A STRAIGHT THROUGH. I HAVE A SUPERSPRINT MANIFOLD, WITH A MAGNEX SYSTEM AT THE MINUTE AND (sorry caps) magnex are SHIT!!! they give you a crap bottom end and the extra centre silencer and the extra huge silencer are restrictive if you ask me.
    
    i had a supersprint straight through and a scorpion straight through back box and my car felt a lot faster and the power was smoother with the straight through. the magnex feels like its holding the car back compared to the straight through setup...
    
    the only reson i changed it was the noise. it was a bit loud but am now on the lookout for a new system, maybe a pugsport or OMP. something with a dummy cat, no centre silencer and a straight through backbox.
39. Karl Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26

    #39 7th June 2007, 12:40

    i gotta say my car seems to rev v freely now i have a supersprint to piper backbox combo.
40. spencer_cammedvts Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2005 MEASHAM United Kingdom (England) Posts: 3445 257bhp Ibiza Cupra Turbo

    #40 7th June 2007, 13:02

    and is it VERY loud? what piper backbox you got?
41. VTS_16v_Boy Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2006 Dartford Kent Posts: 5251 Pug 1007 HDi Sport (daily) / Abarth 500

    #41 7th June 2007, 14:02

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by spencer_cammedvts (sorry caps) magnex are SHIT!!!

    I been waiting for ages for somebody to agree with me
    
    Well done sir
    
    Rep added for the best comment Ive read all day 'Magnex are S**T' get in there! lol
42. Karl Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26

    #42 7th June 2007, 14:03

    3 inch outwardly rolled.
43. leeroybrown Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2006 Durham Posts: 16000 Clio Trophy 025/500

    #43 7th June 2007, 14:08

    Quote:

    I been waiting for ages for somebody to agree with me Well done sir

    
    I agreee Ashley all the way!!!
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44. Adamski_frst Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2007 solihull Posts: 167 escort cossie/vts

    #44 7th June 2007, 16:28

    swaying towards the mongoose decat item as it seems a fair price good make and not too OTT
45. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #45 7th June 2007, 16:29

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Adamski_frst swaying towards the mongoose decat item as it seems a fair price good make and not too OTT

    which mongoose? as some mongoose systems look identical to the magnex
46. Adamski_frst Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2007 solihull Posts: 167 escort cossie/vts

    #46 7th June 2007, 16:31

    was looking at the rolled in one unsure what diameter it was but for around £280 decat'd seems good and mongoose are IMO one of the best of the bunch, i have used them on my fiesta and my cossie
47. Apz1 Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 262 Saxo VTR

    #47 7th June 2007, 18:56

    Can you get a raceland encloced with the green air filter for a 03 VTR?
48. rushy_23 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Aug 2004 West Mids Posts: 15392 '98 EK9 N1

    #48 7th June 2007, 18:58

    Im a Magnex and BMC kind of guy
49. doubledavies Established Member Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 1400

    #49 7th June 2007, 19:03

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Apz1 Can you get a raceland encloced with the green air filter for a 03 VTR?

    raceland comes with a filter but most people ditch it and repalce it with a superior reen cotton filter
50. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #50 7th June 2007, 19:13

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rushy_23 Im a Magnex and BMC kind of guy

    i will be soon
51. doubledavies Established Member Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 1400

    #51 7th June 2007, 19:14

    cant fault magnex really!
52. ryhornvtr Frequent Poster Joined: Sep 2005 norwich United Kingdom (England) Posts: 821 2003 posi VTS

    #52 7th June 2007, 19:18

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by doubledavies cant fault magnex really!

    Exactly, its very popular with people with high powered saxos too.
    
    And they can look good if fitted properly, this is mine
    
53. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #53 7th June 2007, 19:44

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ryhornvtr Exactly, its very popular with people with high powered saxos too. And they can look good if fitted properly, this is mine

    mine sticks a tiny bit out more than yours, but mine sits alot higher
54. Apz1 Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 262 Saxo VTR

    #54 7th June 2007, 19:46

    Piper 3.5 inward roll is the best IMO
55. spencer_cammedvts Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2005 MEASHAM United Kingdom (England) Posts: 3445 257bhp Ibiza Cupra Turbo

    #55 8th June 2007, 07:43

    agnex are crap if you go cammed. they seem really restrictive...
56. leeroybrown Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2006 Durham Posts: 16000 Clio Trophy 025/500

    #56 8th June 2007, 07:58

    Quote:

    magnex are crap if you go cammed. they seem really restrictive...

    Agreed!!!!
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57. VTS_16v_Boy Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2006 Dartford Kent Posts: 5251 Pug 1007 HDi Sport (daily) / Abarth 500

    #57 8th June 2007, 08:05

    Like a Always say, on a mildly tuned or standard car any of the sports exhaust Magnex/Janspeed/Piper/Mongoose/Scorpion are fine.
    
    Most people go straight for Magnex purely on names sake, which is fine thats you choice.
    
    But when you up the antics and start increasing performance past simple breathing mods you need something alittle bit special.
    
    Most of the above systems where designed to increase power on a standard car as that is what most of the systems would/will have been fitted on.
    
    Its like the BTB (or whatever its called) was designed for a higer power outputting engine so will be better than a sports exhaust.
    
    Or thats the way I understand it
58. Mikey Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 Blackburn Posts: 12035 GTI/VTS/VXR/S-line

    #58 8th June 2007, 08:07

    back box dont matter if your after performance imo!!
    
    ive got powerflow, raceland manifold and green cotton induction kit
59. spencer_cammedvts Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2005 MEASHAM United Kingdom (England) Posts: 3445 257bhp Ibiza Cupra Turbo

    #59 8th June 2007, 08:43

    backbox does matter! if you got a backbox you can look in the end and see straight through then it is gonna be a hell of a lot less restrictive than if you got a magnex backbox where its path through the backbox goes through a really tight shikane. and the pipe on the shikane is perforated to obviously deaden the sound.
60. Karl Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26

    #60 8th June 2007, 08:46

    i dont particularly like the sound of a Magnex..