Raceland Manifold

1. craig_vts Newbie Joined: Jun 2007 Withernsea/Hull Posts: 16 Saxo VTS,Seat Ibiza Cupra

   #1 9th June 2007, 10:58

   will a raceland 4-2-1 manifold fit a 2002 vts without having to move anything? and also do you think a 4-2-1 is best for a vts? thanks
2. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

   #2 9th June 2007, 11:09

   Hi Craig,
   
   It won't go straight on. You have the cat in the mani and a different oil filter that will foul the Raceland. To get around it needs a little jiggery pokery so if you don't want to go that route then look at the supersprint. (pricier but very very good.)
   
   You can fit a sandwich plate and fit a remote oil filter or you can replace the current thread and filter with a mk1 one. There is a hole that needs blocking also.
3. Ratty Established Member Joined: Jun 2003 United Kingdom (England) Posts: 1682

   #3 9th June 2007, 11:54

   Kam are you sure? I thought it was only vtr's that had the cat in the manifold and the different oil filter setup, all VTS have them underneath (IIRC) please correct me if im wrong but im pretty sure im not.
4. nassso Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 187

   #4 9th June 2007, 12:02

   Cat is not in the manifold on VTS.
5. belly_VTS Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2006 Co Durham(north east) Posts: 626 cammed vts, (rest in pieces) corsa vxr - 340bhp

   #5 9th June 2007, 12:35

   mine fit snugg mate, and its a '03 so yours should be the same.
   
   might have to reroute the lambda sensor so theres not as much strain on it
6. stevenet15 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 aylesbury buckinghamshire Posts: 4822 Astra Turbo, saxo vts, punto turbo

   #6 9th June 2007, 13:06

   yeah cat is not in the manifold on a vts, the raceland should go stright on as it is shapped around the oil filter
7. craig_vts Newbie Joined: Jun 2007 Withernsea/Hull Posts: 16 Saxo VTS,Seat Ibiza Cupra

   #7 9th June 2007, 14:36

   thanks for all the help! so a raceland is the way to go then? and also would you use a raceland induction kit or go for a bmc? cheers
8. Karl Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26

   #8 9th June 2007, 14:42

   BMC anyday for me.
9. MaRiO89 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7705 Saxo VTS

   #9 9th June 2007, 14:47

   I have a raceland and noticed better performance, defo recommend..
10. samcook Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2005 evesham, worcs United Kingdom (England) Posts: 3813 197 cup

    #10 9th June 2007, 15:06

    the manifold will fit straght on! and id go for a bmc!
11. Karl Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26

    #11 9th June 2007, 15:09

    manifold should go straight on, will have to sleeve your Lambda sensor i woulda thought though?
12. craig_vts Newbie Joined: Jun 2007 Withernsea/Hull Posts: 16 Saxo VTS,Seat Ibiza Cupra

    #12 9th June 2007, 15:13

    would you so there is much of a noticable difference between bmc and raceland induction? and also whats involved when you say lambda sensor may need sleeving?thanks
13. Karl Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26

    #13 9th June 2007, 15:20

    there honestly isnt probably much difference in performance between the two.
    the Raceland is a shite site cheaper too.
    Contact KamRacing he sells both
    In the manifold of a VTS there is a sensor which reads the airflow,
    this will need to be put into a sleeve and tied out the way if the raceland doesnt have a hole for it to screw into.
14. craig_vts Newbie Joined: Jun 2007 Withernsea/Hull Posts: 16 Saxo VTS,Seat Ibiza Cupra

    #14 9th June 2007, 15:26

    does anybody who has a raceland fitted to a vts no if they come with a hole for the lambda?
15. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #15 9th June 2007, 16:41

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by craig_vts does anybody who has a raceland fitted to a vts no if they come with a hole for the lambda?

    yes they do.
    
    if you have 2 though you need a sleeve from gmc
16. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

    #16 9th June 2007, 18:30

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ratty Kam are you sure? I thought it was only vtr's that had the cat in the manifold and the different oil filter setup, all VTS have them underneath

    gha.. 11am is such an unearthly hour.. I didn't read the post properly and was thinking VTRs
17. ad_182_uk Established Member Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 1933 MK3 Imperial Blue Ibiza Cupra.

    #17 9th June 2007, 18:30

    i ordered a raceland 4-2-1 for my 2002 vts cus of the loverly discount from kam-racing. super safe
18. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

    #18 9th June 2007, 18:32

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by craig_vts would you so there is much of a noticable difference between bmc and raceland induction? and also whats involved when you say lambda sensor may need sleeving?thanks

    The build quality is a lot better on the BMCs, performance wise (assuming you get a decent filter in the Raceland) I don't think there'll be that much in it. Not enough for you to notice.
    
    The 2nd lambda sensorr needs to be tricked into detecting clean air like it would after the cat. So it gets put in a sleeve and tucked out the way.
19. craig_vts Newbie Joined: Jun 2007 Withernsea/Hull Posts: 16 Saxo VTS,Seat Ibiza Cupra

    #19 10th June 2007, 09:19

    cheers for all the advice ill have to get one bought soon.