What cams and ecu

16th June 2007, 12:05

What cams would you recommend getting for my 01 Saxo Vts, I want them mainly for straight lines but might do a few trackdays.I was going to go with Cat cam 708's and a Daztek ecu.What do you think.Thanks

16th June 2007, 12:09

Iv heard good things about the 708's, the thing to remember is what your going to be using the car for. If its a daily driver then id get 708's

16th June 2007, 12:42

708s generally produce 155-157bhp with breathing mods.

just get your normal ecu remapped if you dont intend on doing more than cams.

16th June 2007, 13:00

its ok saying that Ry, but there are next to no places about anymore that will re-map an standard ECU!

16th June 2007, 13:01

I have done a few searches and read through a few pages already looking for some cheap-ish mods (compared to turbo and the likes) to get the VTS going a bit better.

Bearing in mind i havnt a clue, here goes...

Ive seen these 708's mentioned a lot and was wondering if there is anything else that needs to be done to the car along with these? Maybe re-map and then does this mean new ecu??

What are the pros and cons of this type of mod? ie very noisy, dodgy idle, MOT, fuel consumption...

...and i have an 03 VTS already with a de-cat, new centre section and backbox and an enclosed filter.

Finally, cost and also reccomendations on where to get this kind of work carried out? Ideally South Wales areaor close.

Thanks.

16th June 2007, 13:03

Sorry guys, above post was meant to be a new thread...ignore and will re-post!!

16th June 2007, 13:06

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Originally Posted by S34MER

its ok saying that Ry, but there are next to no places about anymore that will re-map an standard ECU!

theres loads lol!

all you need is wayne at chipwizards anyway.

16th June 2007, 13:15

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Originally Posted by Itsafastworld85

theres loads lol!

all you need is wayne at chipwizards anyway.

where abouts is chipwizards anywho?

16th June 2007, 13:25

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Originally Posted by S34MER

where abouts is chipwizards anywho?

rotherham irc

16th June 2007, 13:41

you dont want a dastek. remap standard or standolone but that a lot more money

16th June 2007, 14:03

Its very hard to find a place in Ireland that can remap my ecu so I might need to take a trip to the Uk.Because I have a company car, this is going to be my weekend car so I want to try and get some big bhp out of it while keeping it n/a.

16th June 2007, 14:10

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Originally Posted by Steovts

Its very hard to find a place in Ireland that can remap my ecu so I might need to take a trip to the Uk.Because I have a company car, this is going to be my weekend car so I want to try and get some big bhp out of it while keeping it n/a.

big bhp? what do you intend on doing? after cams? bodies? boost? as you need to choose your cam profile now for what you intend on doing later

16th June 2007, 14:11

oli its called streeracers

edit. wrong thread

16th June 2007, 14:14

I dont know what I wana do yet.Sorry what I mean by big bhp would be the 170-180bhp area which is big for Ireland.It would brobably be the quickest and biggest bhp in Irealnd as Vts's are very rare over here.For now I just wana sort out the cams and then I might go with throttle bodies

16th June 2007, 14:18

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Originally Posted by Steovts

I dont know what I wana do yet.Sorry what I mean by big bhp would be the 170-180bhp area which is big for Ireland.It would brobably be the quickest and biggest bhp in Irealnd as Vts's are very rare over here.For now I just wana sort out the cams and then I might go with throttle bodies

to hit 180 you will need bigger cam profiles really than 708s.

708s are 170ish on bodies.

if you plan on going bodies, get a standalone now rather than getting your standard ecu mapped, ok it will cost fuck loads more atm, but will be ALOT cheaper in the long run

16th June 2007, 14:26

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Originally Posted by Itsafastworld85

to hit 180 you will need bigger cam profiles really than 708s.

708s are 170ish on bodies.

if you plan on going bodies, get a standalone now rather than getting your standard ecu mapped, ok it will cost fuck loads more atm, but will be ALOT cheaper in the long run

Ok so what cams would you recommend.I will dont plan on doin tb's for a few months but hope to sort out cams in the next ferw weeks.

16th June 2007, 14:32

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Originally Posted by Steovts

Ok so what cams would you recommend.I will dont plan on doin tb's for a few months but hope to sort out cams in the next ferw weeks.

i personally would say stick with 708s and just not be so much about pub bragging rights.

if you go much wilder, you need forged pistons/rebated pistons, to stop the valves hitting the pistons from the lift of a wilder cam. Also if peak power is pushed up high you will need solid lifters so you can actually rev the engine that high without it going bang.

as i said get a stand alone like kms now, its easyer to get a map tweaked for bodies in the long run, as a standard ecu you cannot run bodies on

16th June 2007, 14:35

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Originally Posted by Itsafastworld85

i personally would say stick with 708s and just not be so much about pub bragging rights.

What do you mean by that and thanks for your help mate

16th June 2007, 14:36

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Originally Posted by Steovts

What do you mean by that and thanks for your help mate

well for the extra £££ from trying to get an engine to 180+ bhp is it worth it just so you can say you have the most power?

16th June 2007, 14:40

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Originally Posted by Itsafastworld85

well for the extra £££ from trying to get an engine to 180+ bhp is it worth it just so you can say you have the most power?

Yeah I get you now.Good point, id just like to have it quicker than most others and quicker then type-r Integra's which is defo possible with just cams and a remap so thanks again

16th June 2007, 14:44

spend the extra money on a quaife ATB for your box, it will do more than an extra 10bhp

16th June 2007, 14:47

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Originally Posted by Itsafastworld85

spend the extra money on a quaife ATB for your box, it will do more than an extra 10bhp

Whats that and how much would it cost?

16th June 2007, 14:56

an atb diff is a differential which will help you corner fast basically
550 + fitting to gearbox

16th June 2007, 15:01

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Originally Posted by Itsafastworld85

an atb diff is a differential which will help you corner fast basically
550 + fitting to gearbox

Oh a diff yeah yeah I know what that is I just didnt know the make.I dunno if il bother.It seems to put down the power ok and corners nicely and as I said I mainly just want the car for straight line purposes

16th June 2007, 15:07

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Originally Posted by Steovts

Oh a diff yeah yeah I know what that is I just didnt know the make.I dunno if il bother.It seems to put down the power ok and corners nicely and as I said I mainly just want the car for straight line purposes

go boost then if you want a gaylining car

and if you increase the power it wont corener as 'nicely'

16th June 2007, 15:12

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Originally Posted by Itsafastworld85

go boost then if you want a gaylining car

and if you increase the power it wont corener as 'nicely'

Nah I thought bout it but I dont think boost is worth it as I do wana keep it an every day car.I wouldnt mind trying a few vtrack days and il look into a diff if you say they are worth it.Thanks

16th June 2007, 15:13

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Originally Posted by Steovts

Nah I thought bout it but I dont think boost is worth it as I do wana keep it an every day car.I wouldnt mind trying a few vtrack days and il look into a diff if you say they are worth it.Thanks

boost is perfectly fine for a daily driver..
there are many supercharged engines i know running 220+ bhp at the fly that are daily drivers.

16th June 2007, 15:15

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Originally Posted by Itsafastworld85

boost is perfectly fine for a daily driver..
there are many supercharged engines i know running 220+ bhp at the fly that are daily drivers.

Yeah but its big money to go boost.That was my original plan

16th June 2007, 15:16

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Originally Posted by Steovts

Yeah but its big money to go boost.That was my original plan

its big money to go on bodies and try and hit 170+ NA

16th June 2007, 15:20

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Originally Posted by Itsafastworld85

its big money to go on bodies and try and hit 170+ NA

Yeah true