dastek uni chip

1. mallboy Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2005 Wolverhampton Posts: 3000 MK1 VTR TURBO

   #1 28th June 2007, 21:34

   just a quick question, iv seen a dastekk unichip for a saxo mk1 vts turbo, will it fit my vtr mk1 or will i have to but a new wiring harness aswell? i no it need mapping and installing but does anyone recommend them as im only running an mf2 at the moment.
2. Dan Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2003 Middlesbrough United Kingdom (England) Posts: 23676 Seat Leon FR

   #2 28th June 2007, 22:04

   I would imagine it would be ok, but a lot of people say not to buy them 2nd hand.
3. mallboy Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2005 Wolverhampton Posts: 3000 MK1 VTR TURBO

   #3 28th June 2007, 22:06

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Dan I would imagine it would be ok, but a lot of people say not to buy them 2nd hand.

   thats what i thought but its going pretty cheap, whats wrong with a second hand one?
4. bullit Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2005 e-hollywood Posts: 17160 toyata hilux

   #4 28th June 2007, 22:53

   i wouldnt bother mate, you wanna be going standolone
   
   ps there cheap new its the mapping that costs but there a waste of time really especially with a turbo
5. tweeqd Established Member Joined: Mar 2006 Farnham Surrey Posts: 1542 AX GT 16v turbo 6 speed with NOS 205 gti6 E 320

   #5 29th June 2007, 21:46

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by bullit ps there cheap new its the mapping that costs but there a waste of time really especially with a turbo

   whys that ive been running my vtr turbo engine on a unichip for 4 years and never had a problem, standalone is better (just swapped mine to DTA but only cos i need some functions the daztek does not have ie ALS)
   
   also ive fitted second hand unichips to cars befroe and just remapped them, we took a unichip from a 1.4 saxo turbo and fitted it to our 306 rallye before that went to DTA and that was fine
   
   you can get new looms from daztek for about £10
6. bullit Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2005 e-hollywood Posts: 17160 toyata hilux

   #6 30th June 2007, 00:30

   news to me bud, didnt think they had the capabilities
7. turbo_dave Infrequent Poster Joined: Jan 2007 Down south Posts: 105 E36 M3 3.0 & 2.1 Mondeo w/Eaton M62

   #7 30th June 2007, 12:18

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by tweeqd whys that ive been running my vtr turbo engine on a unichip for 4 years and never had a problem, standalone is better (just swapped mine to DTA but only cos i need some functions the daztek does not have ie ALS) also ive fitted second hand unichips to cars befroe and just remapped them, we took a unichip from a 1.4 saxo turbo and fitted it to our 306 rallye before that went to DTA and that was fine you can get new looms from daztek for about £10

   Have you got the software to remap unichips?
8. tweeqd Established Member Joined: Mar 2006 Farnham Surrey Posts: 1542 AX GT 16v turbo 6 speed with NOS 205 gti6 E 320

   #8 30th June 2007, 13:02

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by bullit news to me bud, didnt think they had the capabilities

   
   obviously its not as good as a standalone but its been fine for years, you do neeed the daztek map sensor fo it though, the reason i like it over MF2 is that you can use 4 bigger injectors instead of the cowboy 5th and 6th inj, as 4 bigger inj give an even fuel distrabution unlike extra inj
   
   TURBO_DAVE no i dont have the software dor the unichip we send our cars away for mapping
9. turbo_dave Infrequent Poster Joined: Jan 2007 Down south Posts: 105 E36 M3 3.0 & 2.1 Mondeo w/Eaton M62

   #9 30th June 2007, 16:06

   Ahhh booger
   
   Can't find anyone that will part with it. I found one guy who was closing down as a dealer and would let me have it but wanted me to buy up all his stock of Unichips to get it
10. Sophia_Bush Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Shropshire Posts: 9994 Moonstone Blue 106 GTi

    #10 30th June 2007, 17:03

    I am running a dastek in my 1.1 turbo aswell, like martin says the ability to run 4 bigger injectors right off made it mor eappealing than using the 5th and 6th injector setups most use with mf2.
11. Strikevts Established Member Joined: Jan 2007 Uttoxeter Posts: 1519 Mk2 Cammed VTS

    #11 30th June 2007, 17:46

    1.1 turbo?? is there any point??
12. bullit Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2005 e-hollywood Posts: 17160 toyata hilux

    #12 30th June 2007, 20:28

    ah cool, nice pic aswell
    
    what about cost effectiveness from one way to the other?
13. Sophia_Bush Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Shropshire Posts: 9994 Moonstone Blue 106 GTi

    #13 30th June 2007, 22:08

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Strikevts 1.1 turbo?? is there any point??

    considering it has cost less than a grand to do all mapped up yeah pretty much, beauty of this is once I kill this engine or power is still to low can easily stick any bigger 8v mpi tu in, lower c/r again and get it re-mapped.
    
    May think why not just stick the bigger one in anyway to start with, well original 1.4 engine had done 130k, 1.1mpi engine in the shed done 18k and was free. Plus engines are cheap enough now anyways lol
    
    I'd say dastek is more cost effective, you are starting with 4 bigger injectors anyway, only have to get one thing setup. Not overly familiar with the MF2 stuff but you have to use sigcon aswell don't you?
14. bullit Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2005 e-hollywood Posts: 17160 toyata hilux

    #14 1st July 2007, 12:12

    so when does a dastek become less effective. i take it you can only run one on basic turbo conversion?
15. Sophia_Bush Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Shropshire Posts: 9994 Moonstone Blue 106 GTi

    #15 1st July 2007, 12:23

    best ask tweeqd dude, i think it is when your spec becomes bigger with the need of water injection, als etc
16. Ratty Established Member Joined: Jun 2003 United Kingdom (England) Posts: 1682

    #16 1st July 2007, 12:57

    because the dastek cant use just any size injectors it is limited (as it has to confuse the standard ECU to think they are ok etc) dastek also did an extra injector module (what the mf2 does) which was out well before the mf2 was. the Dastek is fine if going for low boost setup the only disadvantage is it cannot do everthing (knock control etc) and has to be mapped by someone, where as mf2 you can map yourself and its easy to setup.
17. tweeqd Established Member Joined: Mar 2006 Farnham Surrey Posts: 1542 AX GT 16v turbo 6 speed with NOS 205 gti6 E 320

    #17 1st July 2007, 15:35

    as ratty says ive only gone for DTA cos (were dealers and i get them cheap lol) im running an S1 inlet with much bigger injectors and 30psi of boost, and i want knock, lamda and antilag.
    the daztec worked well at 16psi and never gave a problem but i need more functions and want to ditch all the ax gti inlet system