still unsure about air filters!!!

1. jus_tin Frequent Poster Joined: May 2007 Cradley Heath Posts: 912 Mk 1 VTR

   #1 29th June 2007, 10:06

   Hi, looking at fitting new exhaust as my standard one has blown twice and its now time for my lazy arse to do something about it. also wanna pop on an air filter, have read the sticky but still cant decide whats best. problem is my car does tend to get quite hot (must be the age), so a cone filter prob isnt the best. Im not looking to increase car performance, just want engine to breath good as well as sound nice with new exhaust.
   
   any advice on which filter i should go for?
2. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

   #2 29th June 2007, 10:18

   you certainly need an enclosed. The ones mentioned in the sticky will all offer similar performance gains so really the choice is which one can you afford and which one do you like..
3. jus_tin Frequent Poster Joined: May 2007 Cradley Heath Posts: 912 Mk 1 VTR

   #3 29th June 2007, 10:47

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by KamRacing you certainly need an enclosed. The ones mentioned in the sticky will all offer similar performance gains so really the choice is which one can you afford and which one do you like..

   I prefer the look of the cone, and like the idea it improves sound as this is more what i want (better sounding engine), but obviously since my engine gets pretty hot, the panel filter would be more suitable i suppose. am i right in thinking this?
4. MaRiO89 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7705 Saxo VTS

   #4 29th June 2007, 10:48

   The 1.4's get quite hot anyway..
5. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

   #5 29th June 2007, 10:52

   I can't say that the BMC is quiet, its bloody loud
6. saunders Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2006 Kent Posts: 3669 Fiat Seicento, MK2 Furio 2000 X, Pug 206

   #6 29th June 2007, 10:59

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by KamRacing I can't say that the BMC is quiet, its bloody loud

   same goes for the Simota's/racelands pics:
   Pipercross:
   
   
   
   Simota & hoses:
   
   
7. kristel10589 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 5362

   #7 29th June 2007, 16:08

   Yea, i got a pipercross one on mine. It sounds great!!!
8. VTS_16v_Boy Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2006 Dartford Kent Posts: 5251 Pug 1007 HDi Sport (daily) / Abarth 500

   #8 29th June 2007, 18:21

   Hi, the whole idea of the sticky on both Airfilters and exhaust would be so that people like yourself could have a read and make a sensable question like you have posted not just 'Hi, what airfilter is best'.
   
   When you say hot, do you mean temp gauge goes over half way under normal driving?
   
   If so change you thermostate, easy and cheap under £12 from main dealer.
   
   Back to the question tho, basically in a nut shell Open filters are pretty much just for noise and small performance gains, enclosed filter will offer greater protection from heat soak issues but are that little more expensive.
   
   I dont think you hear many compliants about a RaceLand enclosed scoop filter.
   
   Ask kam-racing to double check if the kits he has will fit your 1400, which Im sure they will do and go for that.
   
   They are not the ultimate best filter in the world but for the money they are better than plain simple Open filters
9. jus_tin Frequent Poster Joined: May 2007 Cradley Heath Posts: 912 Mk 1 VTR

   #9 2nd July 2007, 15:33

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by VTS_16v_Boy Hi, the whole idea of the sticky on both Airfilters and exhaust would be so that people like yourself could have a read and make a sensable question like you have posted not just 'Hi, what airfilter is best'. When you say hot, do you mean temp gauge goes over half way under normal driving? If so change you thermostate, easy and cheap under £12 from main dealer. Back to the question tho, basically in a nut shell Open filters are pretty much just for noise and small performance gains, enclosed filter will offer greater protection from heat soak issues but are that little more expensive. I dont think you hear many compliants about a RaceLand enclosed scoop filter. Ask kam-racing to double check if the kits he has will fit your 1400, which Im sure they will do and go for that. They are not the ultimate best filter in the world but for the money they are better than plain simple Open filters

   temp gauge sits just above 3/4. sometimes on long fast drives, its just off the red. thermostats fine and radiator has no blockages, just seems to get hot easily. but sounds as tho enclosed filter is the way to go. thanks!
10. saunders Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2006 Kent Posts: 3669 Fiat Seicento, MK2 Furio 2000 X, Pug 206

    #10 2nd July 2007, 15:36

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jus_tin temp gauge sits just above 3/4. sometimes on long fast drives, its just off the red. thermostats fine and radiator has no blockages, just seems to get hot easily. but sounds as tho enclosed filter is the way to go. thanks!

    Im sure you will find something is wrong shortly mate, as my furio only ever goes just over halfway when the fans kicks in and it goes down just under halfway. If yours is going just off the red something is wrong
11. RedB Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2007 Haywards Heath Posts: 8445

    #11 2nd July 2007, 15:40

    reckon so too mate, doesnt sound right
12. RedB Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2007 Haywards Heath Posts: 8445

    #12 2nd July 2007, 15:41

    Hoses and Induction looks nice BTW saunders
    
    What hoses, where, how much?
13. saunders Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2006 Kent Posts: 3669 Fiat Seicento, MK2 Furio 2000 X, Pug 206

    #13 2nd July 2007, 15:43

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by redbullet07 Hoses and Induction looks nice BTW saunders What hoses, where, how much?

    Cheers fella, hoses are just universal stuff off ebay, I got the 30 metre kit LOL as it had enough different sizes for the whole bay. Cost around 25quid from ebay seller regals motorsport
14. VTS_16v_Boy Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2006 Dartford Kent Posts: 5251 Pug 1007 HDi Sport (daily) / Abarth 500

    #14 2nd July 2007, 15:48

    Best thing to do is empty the whole system, replace the thermo and refill the system (dont forget to check for airlocks when refilling) and take it from there as its always worth checking and sorting problems out first before looking to improve performance.
    
    Might also be worth having the coolant system Dye tested to see if there is any CO2 ir exhaust gases in your coolant ie Head Gasket